Zenimax owe Craglorn trade guilds money

peniku8 · October 2016

Blobsky wrote: »

Other guilds can hire our traders that WE WON THE BID ON for free...?

*10k

Verbalinkontinenz wrote: »

i bet penny is laughing now....

AlnilamE · October 2016

GarnetFire17 wrote: »

has this happened on all the servers in all platforms?

Not that I'm aware of. NA seems to be fine. Real trade guilds own the Craglorn spots and all.

imenace · October 2016

what a *** show.

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

These guys must not realize how much money then could make if they worked together. Ask the XBox NA guys. It's way more entertaining when you hate each other, though. Carry on.

how you liking the prices on console?

Waseem · October 2016

belkarth guild traders owned by guilds who have almost nothing on sale

LuluKreicer · October 2016

ZoS, returning of bid and 0.5 of bid as compensation its bad idea. Just bcs on 1st week after grand patch guild make gold near bid or even more. I ll prefer if u return my guild on its spot. Ofc u say "we cant" as usual, but its not true. U can do it.

Mysteri0n · October 2016

@ZOS_GinaBruno SInce this update Hurt the Traders even Further with BoP stuff and the Increase in Trader Price 10k is not Much but it Hurts the small Trade Guilds. One Nice Reconciliation with all the Hate on the trade guilds will be the Removal of Bind of Pickup stuff (Except Undaunted Head and Shoulders, Maelstrom and Master Weapons). Not all Players can do trials. Craglorn Trade Guild Glitch was Icing on the Cake.

wenchmore420b14_ESO · October 2016

Yes. I am one of the NA/PC lucky seven. Im GM of one of the 7 guilds that lost our trader in Craglorn due to a "glitch" in the Update 12 that reset all kiosks and we lost the trader. I was also a member in another guild that had one too, so as a player, I lost 2 traders!
Zos, that is not the whole story.
My guild, our guild, is a mid size social guild (250+). We have not had a trader in a few weeks, except a cart in middle of no where one week because of the bidding being crazy for the last few months. I have been working my ass off to get us a trader. We are not rich. So when I got lucky and got us a trader in Craglorn, well, it was the most exciting thing to ever happen to our guild. All the guildies were SO happy! And I "lucked"into it as we cant afford 1.5 Million+ (fyi, I got it for a half mill). We will never be able to get that spot again. Ever. You broke the heart of an entire guild.

So! Back to the issue of Bidding on Kiosk's and how the small/ middle size guilds are over shadowed by giant guilds.
Suggestion.....
At 50 ppl, have a guild store.
At 150 ppl, you can get a kiosk. Then the Spin off/ overflow guilds with 30 items for sale cant take a half mil spot just because they are a sister's with a deep pocket guild.

NOTE* Zos did refund our bid and even gave us some extra gold for the trouble. Thing is you can't buy the excitement of our guildies and the sales our guild missed out on.
I'm A Sad Panda. No huzzahs for you.. So Zos, to get even with you, I summon.......

Legedric · October 2016

@ZOS_GinaBruno Please reset the guild traders in Craglorn PC EU to their owners as of yesterday before the patch was deployed. You cannot tell me it is technically impossible, I don't buy this!

Compensating the guilds (or guild owners) is nothing as the members are the real loosers here not being able to sell their stuff they planned to sell in a DLC/Major Update week.
Furthermore the current guilds there are barely able to supply the strong demand in Craglorn... some are already entirely empty just blocking a spot for nothing...

FIX IT ZOS!

LEGENDARYYY · October 2016

Blobsky wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

Please do not derail this thread with all the hatred that has already been going on between some trade guilds for months now.

I think this topic is too important for all of us and the situation is hurting every guild's wallet on a somewhat equal level.

Totally agree, I actually don't enjoy the hatred at all, and do my best to avoid it despite the constant bombardment each day. Lets hope zenimax crack on here.

Yeah ur definitely the victim here. Wait.... No.

EC_Rob · October 2016

want to buy fix zos.

WuffyCerulei · October 2016

I do feel bad for the Crag guilds losing their traders, even though my trading guild managed to snag one. I hope they get refunded for their gold lost after bidding for them.

nagarjunna · October 2016

Legedric wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Please reset the guild traders in Craglorn PC EU to their owners as of yesterday before the patch was deployed. You cannot tell me it is technically impossible, I don't buy this!

FIX IT ZOS!

For which instance? AD or EP or DC... that's the real problem! So yes, by all means revert them to their owners as of yesterday however each spot had 3 owners so which owner do you refer to?

This is why this is such a mess for everyone.

Legedric · October 2016

nagarjunna wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Please reset the guild traders in Craglorn PC EU to their owners as of yesterday before the patch was deployed. You cannot tell me it is technically impossible, I don't buy this!

FIX IT ZOS!

For which instance? AD or EP or DC... that's the real problem! So yes, by all means revert them to their owners as of yesterday however each spot had 3 owners so which owner do you refer to?

This is why this is such a mess for everyone.

Traders have always been cross instance ad teh same across all factions, so that#s not a problem here.

nagarjunna · October 2016

Legedric wrote: »

Traders have always been cross instance ad teh same across all factions, so that#s not a problem here.

OK, I'm missing something here, would you clarify for me, please?

Legedric · October 2016

nagarjunna wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

Traders have always been cross instance ad teh same across all factions, so that#s not a problem here.

OK, I'm missing something here, would you clarify for me, please?

Sure:
Say you have 3 characters, 1 EP, 1 DC and 1 AD.

Whenever they travel to Craglorn, Deshaan, Glenumbra or whatever other zone, the traders have always the same trade guild across all 3 characters. So there never was a trade NPC in Belkrath just for DC, EP or AD.
When you go to Shuhasa in Belkrath you were able to acess the same trade guild there with all 3 of your characters, regardless of their faction.

That's the reason why trade guilds were always cross faction.

IwakuraLain42 · October 2016

nagarjunna wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

Traders have always been cross instance ad teh same across all factions, so that#s not a problem here.

OK, I'm missing something here, would you clarify for me, please?

If you had a Trader in Daggerfall for example, players from EP or AD would see the same trade when visiting the town in the former Gold/Silver zones (same for Craglorn, Orsinium, Gold Coast and Hew's Bane).

Horker · October 2016

Blobsky wrote: »

Craglorn currently has no traders. I own TWO guilds in Craglorn, and neither are existing on traders - the traders cannot be hired as the guild still shows as owning the traders in craglorn... but the traders can't physically be accessed. I believe zenimax currently owe me 9m across the 2 guilds that I bid for personally, I am sure the other Craglorn guilds would love a refund too

#feelsbadman

nagarjunna · October 2016

Thanks for clarifying

mistermacintosh · October 2016

Reseting the entire area... was that really necessary? Oh well, at least the lady at Seeker's Archive isn't stalking me anymore.

Legedric · October 2016

dethbl00ms wrote: »

Reseting the entire area... was that really necessary? Oh well, at least the lady at Seeker's Archive isn't stalking me anymore.

Technically they did not reset Craglorn, they copied the old Craglorn over to an entire new zone (that's what Kai Schober explained to us).
So technically it is like we are having Craglorn 1 and Craglorn 2 in game now and only the access routes were shifted from Crag 1 to Crag 2.

That's why everything was reset in there, including the traders as they were technically "new" and not occupied at all.

Lava_Croft · October 2016

Blobsky wrote: »

Craglorn currently has no traders. I own TWO guilds in Craglorn, and neither are existing on traders - the traders cannot be hired as the guild still shows as owning the traders in craglorn... but the traders can't physically be accessed. I believe zenimax currently owe me 9m across the 2 guilds that I bid for personally, I am sure the other Craglorn guilds would love a refund too

I'm sure rigging the market has made you enough gold to cover the costs.

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2016

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Craglorn currently has no traders. I own TWO guilds in Craglorn, and neither are existing on traders - the traders cannot be hired as the guild still shows as owning the traders in craglorn... but the traders can't physically be accessed. I believe zenimax currently owe me 9m across the 2 guilds that I bid for personally, I am sure the other Craglorn guilds would love a refund too

I'm sure rigging the market has made you enough gold to cover the costs.

So being "rich" makes it OK to be ripped off ???
I'm puzzled as to why ZOS chose to refund the bidding guilds and let the "new" ones in place. The proper way to go would have to refund the "new" ones and put the original guilds back in place.

ZOS, I like you and I like the game and One Tamriel is amazing and it's just a game. BUT, for some reasons, I'm glad your programming team is not in charge of nuclear security or something like that...

Legedric · October 2016

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Craglorn currently has no traders. I own TWO guilds in Craglorn, and neither are existing on traders - the traders cannot be hired as the guild still shows as owning the traders in craglorn... but the traders can't physically be accessed. I believe zenimax currently owe me 9m across the 2 guilds that I bid for personally, I am sure the other Craglorn guilds would love a refund too

I'm sure rigging the market has made you enough gold to cover the costs.

So being "rich" makes it OK to be ripped off ???
I'm puzzled as to why ZOS chose to refund the bidding guilds and let the "new" ones in place. The proper way to go would have to refund the "new" ones and put the original guilds back in place.

ZOS, I like you and I like the game and One Tamriel is amazing and it's just a game. BUT, for some reasons, I'm glad your programming team is not in charge of nuclear security or something like that...

Couldn't agree more.

One Tamriel is a great update and Tamriel felt never so alive and healthy as yesterday and today (OMG so many people running around). But ZOS' decisions on this matter in particular and several others are just way out of line...

Verbalinkontinenz · October 2016

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Craglorn currently has no traders. I own TWO guilds in Craglorn, and neither are existing on traders - the traders cannot be hired as the guild still shows as owning the traders in craglorn... but the traders can't physically be accessed. I believe zenimax currently owe me 9m across the 2 guilds that I bid for personally, I am sure the other Craglorn guilds would love a refund too

I'm sure rigging the market has made you enough gold to cover the costs.

i am sure, it didnt work out as plannend*rofl

Legedric · October 2016

Verbalinkontinenz wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

Craglorn currently has no traders. I own TWO guilds in Craglorn, and neither are existing on traders - the traders cannot be hired as the guild still shows as owning the traders in craglorn... but the traders can't physically be accessed. I believe zenimax currently owe me 9m across the 2 guilds that I bid for personally, I am sure the other Craglorn guilds would love a refund too

I'm sure rigging the market has made you enough gold to cover the costs.

i am sure, it didnt work out as plannend*rofl

Well, as it didn't work out for any of the major Craglorn guilds this week we are all [snip] up equally...

Leon119 · October 2016

I would actually feel bad for you guys, but then i remember you are stupidly rich and raise the prices of consumables to stupid amounts because u want a pool of gold coins to swim in when player housing becomes available ?
So yeahhh no. Suck it up

Legedric · October 2016

Leon119 wrote: »

I would actually feel bad for you guys, but then i remember you are stupidly rich and raise the prices of consumables to stupid amounts because u want a pool of gold coins to swim in when player housing becomes available ?
So yeahhh no. Suck it up

So you are saying that everyone in a trade guild is stupidly rich?
That's bull*hit!

Because those members are the ones being ripped off (not being ale to sell stuff) here, not the leaders.

wenchmore420b14_ESO · October 2016

Legedric wrote: »

Leon119 wrote: »

I would actually feel bad for you guys, but then i remember you are stupidly rich and raise the prices of consumables to stupid amounts because u want a pool of gold coins to swim in when player housing becomes available ?
So yeahhh no. Suck it up

So you are saying that everyone in a trade guild is stupidly rich?
That's bull*hit!

Because those members are the ones being ripped off (not being ale to sell stuff) here, not the leaders.

Thank you @Legedric , I was one of the GM's that lost our Crag trader. (NA/PC). We ARE NOT rich by any means. We are a social guild that I try and keep a trader for also. This was our FIRST time in Crag! We were soooo stoked!! for a day anyway. Do don't group all guilds together and think all trade guilds are big conglomerates, cause they aren't.

Lumbermill_Emperor · October 2016

Leon119 wrote: »

I would actually feel bad for you guys, but then i remember you are stupidly rich and raise the prices of consumables to stupid amounts because u want a pool of gold coins to swim in when player housing becomes available ?
So yeahhh no. Suck it up

you one of those poorish beggar who cant even buy a 10k horse
i know people like you
you always will be poor
you always will be behind

@Leon119

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2016

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Do don't group all guilds together and think all trade guilds are big conglomerates, cause they aren't.

You will never prevent players without gold from thinking that they are victims of some sort of conspiracy, and you'll never convince them that players with gold are just playing an aspect of the game efficiently.

That being said, who can blame people thinking bad of trading players when you read @Lumbermill_Emperor 's (disgusting and needlessly agressive) comment ? I hope readers don't conclude that we're all like that, because we're not.