Personal opinions don't matter here anymore with ZOS . They made a rule about gap closing into keeps and have banned at least a dozen people I've heard of for it . Please don't get banned guys . The gap closer ban is worse then CE , they don't let anyone back . It doesn't matter what we think or even if it makes little sense , it's ZOS policy now and I don't want to see anyone lose thier account after working hard on it over something that can be avoided . Don't let them pull your account , play carefully in PvP . Unless you don't care anymore , then good luck to you .

They shouldn't have done what they did to gap closers in the first place, that's what made this complete mess. However ZOS has come out and said using gap closers and Dragon Leap to get into keeps and onto walls to bypass sieging the keep IS an exploit. I understand if someone slips and hits the button and it happens that's ZOS fault and I have heard cases where they don't do anything if it looked like an accident but if someone is doing it over and over and over again while knowing they can get banned for it... that's the exploiters fault.

I could have said just walk away and go to another campaign until that BS is over, but this is a game where we come to have fun... not avoid players/groups exploiting. It's not even a "I don't want to fight them thing"... it's a "You're an emp, do you REALLY need to exploit into a keep." For the record I do feel odd saying this is an exploit but... not much we can do about that. I understand why it had to become one, I have seen too many players let another buddy inside of a keep on another alliance so they can get a scroll or cap it from the inside... that has been a thing since the game launched and was a huge annoyance/frustration for all not involved.

Leaping into keeps was never an exploit. That's just what ZoS decided to call it after all the DK's started jumping into keeps after the game launched in response to the people complaining about it on the forums. The lack the foresight to see how that ability would have worked in PvP is just laughable. I don't believe they couldn't have known players were doing to do that and probably had no issue with it until players started using it Chains/Leap to get over keep walls to take scrolls, which was a legit issue. Jumping into keeps however? Just something people complained about because they felt shouldn't have to deal with DK's leaping on them while they snipesnipesnipesnipesnipesnipe from the keep walls.

I've also never been a part of a keep defense where the DK's jumped in and THAT was the reason the keep feel/you lost the scroll. It usually happened when the group pushed into the outer/inner breach and some DK's jumped up as they were doing this. Most of the time, we just jumped into the keep to see how many people we could kill before we died or were forced to jump off the wall.

The issue of other players using the ability to let their buddies into keeps, however, is exploiting and cheating and something that ZoS should handle by banning those SPECIFIC PLAYERS, not reworking mechanics because they still want these people in their game because they pay money. That's just stupid.

Just a question. I have always wondered if this is aloud. But have no idea.

Since inside Keep wall. Has no roof. On one location. It is so easy to use a treb and go over the roof and hit the npc guards. To destroy those npc's on the flag. While others seige the wall at the same time.

Is it considered an exploit to kill half the guards with the trebs. With the part that has no roof. While others broke innerwall? To make things easier. I have always break down both walls. More fun that way. But I have always wondered.

As i say in almost every topic about this subject. I used to like pulling people from wall with chain.
Zos changed that. Couln't even pull people anymore who were standing on higher ground then me.

I used to jump into outer en inner keeps during sieges. It was my way of fighting. Dk's only have 2 gap closers. A broken chains skill wich zos claimes is fixed now. And dragon leap wich is an ultimate. It's the worst range class. Even more if you do not have a bow. Jumping into a keep during a siege should still be allowed in my eyes. I do not do it anymore cause i quite like my account.

With that said. The DK's we are now talking about werent jumping into keeps during sieges. They jump on to the edge of the wall next to the outer main gate and then jump up to the NPC mages. In turn they just siege the inner gate or wall without taking the outer down and take the keep.

It's just not fun to fight against an enemy who cheats his way to victory. He has won. We are back to trueflame.
But what did he gain? A blue cyrodiil with no pact to fight anymore.