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Templars are the new meta
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White wabbit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Look at the leaderboards, on Eu the majority are Templars and NBs in the popular camps.
Highest ranking DK i believe is rank 14 or so (magicka), Sorc (magicka) is a bit higher, but its mainly dominated by Tempalrs 1st then NBs second.
Its a combination of how easy templars are to play (in my opinion and experience) and the insane heals and purges they do, thanks to their passives.
A group of 10 running around cyrodiil with 6+ templars....you see where this is
It's players attitude that causes the issue you get groups of cheesy build Templars running around that will end up spoiling the game for the solo players , I still roam around in light armor , don't run crappy Malabeth or sword and board , but I'm getting pushed that way to even be competitive or to survive , Templars are actually in a good place it's the attitude and sets that are causing the issues1 -
Drdeath20✭✭✭✭✭
✭Look at the leaderboards, on Eu the majority are Templars and NBs in the popular camps.
Highest ranking DK i believe is rank 14 or so (magicka), Sorc (magicka) is a bit higher, but its mainly dominated by Tempalrs 1st then NBs second.
Its a combination of how easy templars are to play (in my opinion and experience) and the insane heals and purges they do, thanks to their passives.
A group of 10 running around cyrodiil with 6+ templars....you see where this is going.
Ap for kills, AP for heals. Templars are able to get large amounts of AP in groups.0 -
White wabbit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭So what Zos really need to do is buff Magicka so that the other classes are as good , then less Templars see a easy solution to the problem2 -
Funkopotamus✭✭✭✭✭Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!" Sallington1 -
Funkopotamus✭✭✭✭✭danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »I'll summarize this thread ...
Someone died to a Templar. Waaaaa.
No I'm calling Templar out on their bull and one doesn't simple doesn't die to a Templar you get nuke WIth about 10 Jesus beams while fighting another player from pugs in the back of the zerg
The anger is strong in this one..
Embrace the anger.. Join the dark side my child..... Come join the Stamgank !Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!" Sallington0 -
mr1sho✭✭✭✭✭SlayerTheDragon wrote: »Templar is the only class that is noFunkopotamus wrote: »danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »I'll summarize this thread ...
Someone died to a Templar. Waaaaa.
No I'm calling Templar out on their bull and one doesn't simple doesn't die to a Templar you get nuke WIth about 10 Jesus beams while fighting another player from pugs in the back of the zerg
The anger is strong in this one..
Embrace the anger.. Join the dark side my child..... Come join the Stamgank !
I already have lolGold Company Commander0 -
Pathfinder✭✭✭Before there was such a thing I was running a stamsorc just to get away from my main magplar since EVERYONE was running one. Now that the meta has swung the other way I am back on my templar. Having played both I will say that the current stam meta is way OP compared to magic and needs to be brought in line. There is a reason almost everyone if running the FOTM stam builds and it's not because they are more challenging.Main
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jrgray93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭As a magicka templar, other templars are my favorite thing to fight. 90% of the are garbage jesus beam spammers and hardly pose a threat. You know why garbage jesus beam spammers barely pose a threat? Because a single heal nullifies that beam. That is unless you're fighting a group / zerg and the beam hits you while other players DPS you. But if you're complaining about large groups killing you, jesus beam is not your problem just because it got the killing blow.
Pathfinder wrote: »Before there was such a thing I was running a stamsorc just to get away from my main magplar since EVERYONE was running one. Now that the meta has swung the other way I am back on my templar. Having played both I will say that the current stam meta is way OP compared to magic and needs to be brought in line. There is a reason almost everyone if running the FOTM stam builds and it's not because they are more challenging.
This. Also, hi del Sol. Slania here.Edited by jrgray93 on September 28, 2016 1:30PMEP: Slania Isara : Harambe Was an Inside Job5 -
Grumble_and_Grunt✭✭✭✭Look at the leaderboards, on Eu the majority are Templars and NBs in the popular camps.
Highest ranking DK i believe is rank 14 or so (magicka), Sorc (magicka) is a bit higher, but its mainly dominated by Tempalrs 1st then NBs second.
Its a combination of how easy templars are to play (in my opinion and experience) and the insane heals and purges they do, thanks to their passives.
A group of 10 running around cyrodiil with 6+ templars....you see where this is going.
Sorry ZoM but AvA leaderboards have nothing to do with the class, other than that templar being the class associated with healing to generate more AP. Leaderboards do not reflect class balance in the slightest, a group running with 6+ Templars is ofc cancer, but take the rankings with a grain of salt, for example certain guilds will always be top leaderboards regardless of what class they play, multiply this by x amount of guilds and you see my pointPC EU
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Duukar✭✭✭✭✭I just find Templars annoying. Most cant kill me. The ones that do are insane min maxed stamplars. Eventually I just give up trying to kill em and move on to greener pastures.
It must be an incredibly boring way to play. I wouldn't base my success as a player on just not dying.......0 -
goatlyonesub17_ESO✭✭✭✭A good many of us aren't "team players." We group once in a while because we have to, to finish a quest that can't be done alone, but we prefer to play solo. When we go to Cyrodiil and meet enemies, they usually send us back to a fort via the Death Express. But we still like going out again solo. Groups just aren't our thing. For us, this MMO is okay, decent, pretty good, but it isn't nearly as good as the next standalone Elder Scrolls game will probably be."Argonians have fat, scaly tails." —Rissa Manyclaws.
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Airyus✭✭✭As a mag dk, this is how i fight a malu/br/reactive templar....
Fossilize
/wave
rp walk in the other direction.2 -
Moglijuana✭✭✭✭✭As a mag dk, this is how i fight a malu/br/reactive templar....
Fossilize
/wave
rp walk in the other direction.
This is me. lol.0 -
Paraflex✭✭✭✭
I think a simple solution may be by changing ONE dk ability to do dmg if cleansed too early (kind of like how Inevitable det works). That way the cleansing is still strong, but must be used correctly. One can hope 0_0.[/quote]
I would go even further and have a dot that if removed explodes for damage and silences the caster for 5 seconds....this dot would need to be cast able and helps dks with protecting their dots.
Healers would have to learn how to heal through it and when to clense properly instead of the brainless purify every 7 seconds
@Moglijuana
Edited by Paraflex on September 29, 2016 5:45PMHollykills CP 630 Templar Healer - Ad PS4 Warlord Rank
Max Stam/Mag Dk
Max Stam Sorc
Max Stam/Mag NB
Don't care to dps much so I heal.1 -
Calboy✭✭✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »The funny thing is, magplars are not 1vX'ing like how every other meta class has done. All magplars are doing is making 1vX difficult. It's about time that magplars have become more than just punching bags.
Except they are. You're just not paying attention. Don't believe me? Trying watching Lefty Lucy's YouTube channel more often.
Soo you just want me to watch a dudes youtube video to up his view count. Just pulled it up and saw nothing about magplars 1vX. Saw a 1vX stamplar video description.
Or how about a simple search on YouTube for magplar 1vX. You'll find plenty.
Dude, you can find plenty of 1vx videos of every class. Even mdks!1 -
Savos_Saren✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Guys, guys, guys... calm down. No need to yell "NERF".
...BUFF DKs!!!Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.
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✭BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Stam sorcs are the meta, but i do agree with @thankyourat, we nightblades lost our cloak purge, templars also need to lose their purge or at least you should not be able to purge ultimates.
How are stamina Sorcerers any stronger than other stamina classes?
1) Dark Deal = unlimited stamina and healing as a stamina build you use magic but it's full most of the time.
2) Hurricane has zero counters the would be counter is Magnum Shot and it doesn't knock you back out of range.
3) Implosion a class passive that can turn ANY physical damage into an execute.
4) Streak magic gap maker so when out of stamina they can use magic to run, not hide or buff up but to get away and then turn magic to health and stamina.
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Heruthema✭✭✭✭ParaNostram wrote: »americansteel wrote: »People keep trying to get Nightblade class Nerf more but in reality Templars have taken over it's ridiculous how they can spam heals with no cool down and not mention the Jesus beam from across the map Templars should be Nerf ! All I see is hordes of Templars
That's right Templars I'm calling you out lol
mag sorcerer shield stacking has no cool down so why should a healer class have a cool down
Mag sorc has been nerfed to oblivion and back, love. Just reminding you.
By the time you stack your ridiculous 6sec shields it is time to stack again. No time for offense when shields have been NERFED into OBLIVION. So where is the advantage?0 -
Dredlord✭✭✭✭✭Moglijuana wrote: »Moglijuana wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »The class purge needs to go. I find it funny that cloak was op because it purged dots so it got nerfed, but they added an ability that purges dots. That's my main complaint with the class
THIS x1,000,000!!!!! When my Dk's combo that costs around 10k magicka is negated and countered by a skill that costs 2,800...#balanced
And no i don't think Cleanse should be removed. But there should be SOME kind of skill associated with an ability that is a literal crutch that can be spammed with no consequence.
Im sorry did you all of a sudden start talking about flappy wings in your last sentence?
Just wanted to clarify
There, I highlighted my last sentence since you can't seem to read.
I don't even use "flappy wings".
Why? It barely works. It only works on ranged projectiles (IT DOESN'T EVENT REFLECT PROJECTILES FROM STEALTH...),has a low timer, has a low amount of reflects and is easily replaceable with more important skills.
Wow your raging so hard your not even making sense.0 -
Bobby_V_Rockit✭✭✭✭✭
✭Just accept your fate and dont fight. That way when you inevitably die, you can say "well, I didnt fight back"0 -
Moglijuana✭✭✭✭✭Moglijuana wrote: »Moglijuana wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »The class purge needs to go. I find it funny that cloak was op because it purged dots so it got nerfed, but they added an ability that purges dots. That's my main complaint with the class
THIS x1,000,000!!!!! When my Dk's combo that costs around 10k magicka is negated and countered by a skill that costs 2,800...#balanced
And no i don't think Cleanse should be removed. But there should be SOME kind of skill associated with an ability that is a literal crutch that can be spammed with no consequence.
Im sorry did you all of a sudden start talking about flappy wings in your last sentence?
Just wanted to clarify
There, I highlighted my last sentence since you can't seem to read.
I don't even use "flappy wings".
Why? It barely works. It only works on ranged projectiles (IT DOESN'T EVENT REFLECT PROJECTILES FROM STEALTH...),has a low timer, has a low amount of reflects and is easily replaceable with more important skills.
Wow your raging so hard your not even making sense.
Man, guess you really can't read. GG.0 -
MalakithAlamahdi✭✭✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »The funny thing is, magplars are not 1vX'ing like how every other meta class has done. All magplars are doing is making 1vX difficult. It's about time that magplars have become more than just punching bags.
Except they are. You're just not paying attention. Don't believe me? Trying watching Lefty Lucy's YouTube channel more often.
I don't need to watch someone play, I'm playing that very game myself. Yes, it sucks fighting them in groups, but I can name a lot of other things.
I don't say it often, but really, git gut.0 -
Baconlad✭✭✭✭✭
✭sorc didnt get nerfed into oblivion, they got one nerf...the duration of a skill that in combat against a competent player went down in six seconds anyway. ALL magick spec are in the shitter right now, and that includes templar. honestly i would say sorcs and NBs are in the best place for mag users. templars and DKs are getting shoved in the direction on being forced to wear heavy armor, hell DK's even wear double sword and shield. WTF is wrong with that?! a DPS toon being forced to wear a board and full heavy armor with bloodspawn so that he doesnt die and can hit his wet noodle whip skill thirty times and hope you're stupid enough to die to it. templar? oh for *** sake...we are NOT in a good place. we rely on taking damage in order to initiate our defense (BOL)...but for SOME *** stupid ass reason zeni decided to give us nothing but cast time abilities for our damage. we don't have the luxery of even being able to equip dual boards because if we did, our weak ass puncturing sweeps would hit even weaker than it does with duel swords...and thats a nother topic, when was the last time you seen a destro using non healer in cyrodil? willing to bet it's extemely rare. reason being is we don't have a reliable ranged skill. we have reflective, but spamming that it kinda...bad since it's a DOT...like a DK spammin searing strike and hoping for a kill...we have dark flare, and yeah...it's AWESOMESAUCE...when it hits, problem is it NEVER hits! by the time you've casted it that stam user has dodged it/ the mag DK has relfected it/ the magblade has cloaked it/ the sorc has either eaten it with shields or interupted it's cast...we...suck. accually...about the only thing we do better than any other class by 100 times, is keep a small man team of 4 stamina users alive by slotting malu/ reactive/trans and spamming the dog *** out of BOL...
GIVE ME A *** REASON to wear light armor again...pls...pls...pls...there has got to be a better way for templar and DKs to defend themselves that HA and bloospawn...there is hardly *** for damage. unless ur an idiot and die to one 1v1. 1v1 no one can kill and mag templar/ DK. but nore can we kill you (both players being on equal skill and gear footing)...if anything we need a massive buff..preferebly to the tune of LA buffing. and the removal of battlespirit healing and bubble debuffs. stamina didnt get a nerf like that. their dodge roll and shuffle still work just as good as it always has. blocking doesnt cost more. and vigor was created with battlespirit in mind...so it's healing what devs want it at. anyway...holy *** long winded0
