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Templars are the new meta
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✭✭✭✭danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »I'll summarize this thread ...
Someone died to a Templar. Waaaaa.
No I'm calling Templar out on their bull and one doesn't simple doesn't die to a Templar you get nuke WIth about 10 Jesus beams while fighting another player from pugs in the back of the zerg
Seems then like numbers, not templars, is your issue. The loading screens once told me to bring friends in dangerous places like Cyrodiil.15 -
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✭✭✭✭✭People keep trying to get Nightblade class Nerf more but in reality Templars have taken over it's ridiculous how they can spam heals with no cool down and not mention the Jesus beam from across the map Templars should be Nerf ! All I see is hordes of Templars
That's right Templars I'm calling you out lol
@mr1sho No skills in this game have a CD except ultimates so what are you even talking bout.
Sounds like you have been killed by some templars and I can tell you it is a matter of learning how to deal with them just like any other class. Also, their heals are heavily nerfed in Cyrodill.
If all your seeing is Templars then you are not looking well enough. All classes are in PvE and PvP.danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »I'll summarize this thread ...
Someone died to a Templar. Waaaaa.
No I'm calling Templar out on their bull and one doesn't simple doesn't die to a Templar you get nuke WIth about 10 Jesus beams while fighting another player from pugs in the back of the zerg
This comment is proof of what I am talking about.
First, you are mentioning being killed in a 10 v 1. What on earth do you expect. 10 players using any skill will kill you in a moment. Really need to set expectations at a better level.
I suggest you find a decent PvP guild and take their advice.Edited by idk on September 25, 2016 1:29AM4 -
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✭danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »I'll summarize this thread ...
Someone died to a Templar. Waaaaa.
No I'm calling Templar out on their bull and one doesn't simple doesn't die to a Templar you get nuke WIth about 10 Jesus beams while fighting another player from pugs in the back of the zerg
So you died to 10 jesus beams all while fighting off other players, and you are calling for nerfs to the templars???? I die to most stamina builds from full health 30k in less than 5 seconds, 1v1.Edited by Drdeath20 on September 25, 2016 1:33AM8 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »I'll summarize this thread ...
Someone died to a Templar. Waaaaa.
No I'm calling Templar out on their bull and one doesn't simple doesn't die to a Templar you get nuke WIth about 10 Jesus beams while fighting another player from pugs in the back of the zergdanielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »I'll summarize this thread ...
Someone died to a Templar. Waaaaa.
No I'm calling Templar out on their bull and one doesn't simple doesn't die to a Templar you get nuke WIth about 10 Jesus beams while fighting another player from pugs in the back of the zerg
So you died to 10 jesus beams all while fighting off other players, and you are calling for nerfs to the templars???? I die to most stamina builds from full health 30k in less than 5 seconds, 1v1.
yea, I laughed at the 10 templars vs 1 plus an 11th of another class as being the justification of requesting the nerf.6 -
mr1sho✭✭✭✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »People keep trying to get Nightblade class Nerf more but in reality Templars have taken over it's ridiculous how they can spam heals with no cool down and not mention the Jesus beam from across the map Templars should be Nerf ! All I see is hordes of Templars
That's right Templars I'm calling you out lol
@mr1sho No skills in this game have a CD except ultimates so what are you even talking bout.
Sounds like you have been killed by some templars and I can tell you it is a matter of learning how to deal with them just like any other class. Also, their heals are heavily nerfed in Cyrodill.
If all your seeing is Templars then you are not looking well enough. All classes are in PvE and PvP.danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »I'll summarize this thread ...
Someone died to a Templar. Waaaaa.
No I'm calling Templar out on their bull and one doesn't simple doesn't die to a Templar you get nuke WIth about 10 Jesus beams while fighting another player from pugs in the back of the zerg
This comment is proof of what I am talking about.
First, you are mentioning being killed in a 10 v 1. What on earth do you expect. 10 players using any skill will kill you in a moment. Really need to set expectations at a better level.
I suggest you find a decent PvP guild and take their advice.
Yea you miss the point of my postGold Company Commander0 -
mr1sho✭✭✭✭✭I can provide video evidence showing what's going on in cyro and people will still defend their OP class it's patheticGold Company Commander1
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✭✭✭✭✭It's really easy to debuff healing! Utilize it to help take on templars. We've had to slot magelight for NBs for a long time, why not slot a skill or use a set to adapt to templars? The class is in a good place.Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I can provide video evidence showing what's going on in cyro and people will still defend their OP class it's pathetic
@mr1sho
Honestly, you already explained, 11v you with 10 of them being templars. We understand and all agree we are not surprised you died in an 11v1. Most of us would have died.
Any in this thread that spend time in PvP know that if one is not geared correctly or does not understand how to fight certain classes they go down fast.
i just got kiled in a 5v1. Maybe I need to request DKs, NBs and Sorcs be nerfed. I do not think a Templar was in the group.
BTW, RO and templars are not OP. Using your explanation using RO, I have died to RO only when my health was already low. Any time I have been hit by one templar with RO I have not died. Did not even come close. RO does not need to be nerfed at all.3 -
Drdeath20✭✭✭✭✭
✭I can provide video evidence showing what's going on in cyro and people will still defend their OP class it's pathetic
I know what's going on. Zerg vs zerg battles 1 or more templars are firing RD on an opponent and then a stamina burst player or players are gap closing him. bursting his health to around 40% and then the beam or beams execute the player off. Sound about right?
It sucks but your calling for nerfs because templars make 1vX hard. Just think about that.Edited by Drdeath20 on September 25, 2016 2:23AM9 -
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✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »People keep trying to get Nightblade class Nerf more but in reality Templars have taken over it's ridiculous how they can spam heals with no cool down and not mention the Jesus beam from across the map Templars should be Nerf ! All I see is hordes of Templars
That's right Templars I'm calling you out lol
@mr1sho No skills in this game have a CD except ultimates so what are you even talking bout.
Sounds like you have been killed by some templars and I can tell you it is a matter of learning how to deal with them just like any other class. Also, their heals are heavily nerfed in Cyrodill.
If all your seeing is Templars then you are not looking well enough. All classes are in PvE and PvP.danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »I'll summarize this thread ...
Someone died to a Templar. Waaaaa.
No I'm calling Templar out on their bull and one doesn't simple doesn't die to a Templar you get nuke WIth about 10 Jesus beams while fighting another player from pugs in the back of the zerg
This comment is proof of what I am talking about.
First, you are mentioning being killed in a 10 v 1. What on earth do you expect. 10 players using any skill will kill you in a moment. Really need to set expectations at a better level.
I suggest you find a decent PvP guild and take their advice.
Yea you miss the point of my post
You are calling for nerfs because templars make 1vX hard.9 -
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✭Holy Jesus Beam from outside of Cyrodil there are a lot of effin night blades trying to distract ZOS0 -
OneKhajiitCrimeWave✭✭✭✭✭
✭Khajiit is currently wondering whether the fish this one is eating is salty, or if there is so much salt in this thread that everything is starting to taste that way.
You want a cool down on abilities being spammed. Ok then, then Khajiit will also make ridiculous demands. When a bow user uses poison injection or snipe as a spammable ability, the second one should cost 8 times as much stamina. Do the same with 2 hander abilities, oh and don't forget ambush and shields (magicka) and all the other spammable abilities. Sound sensible? no, and this is how crazy you sound.
You are aware that most of this one's death recaps would speak of stamina builds animation cancelling 5 moves in to less than a second. Should we nerf/punish all stamina in to the ground for what is in the game (for better or worse)?
You want a cooldown on heals.... for the Healer class who many of which keep your squidgy self alive with purify and heals?
And for the person who wants purify moved from a Templar skill, remember that Tamriel is bigger than your little PvP arena of Cyrodiil. There are dungeons and trials and all manner of content where this is necessary. Humble Khajiit laughs at your foolish self.
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Bad_Company✭✭✭✭My characters (EU PC):Leopardo Di-Caprio (Khajiit Templar) || Matthew Makehoney (Altmer Sorcerer) || Luck-Luster Burt (Redguard Dragonknight)Clint Histwood (Argonian Templar) || Martin Uber Ping (Redguard Sorcerer) || Louis Farmstrong (Imperial Nightblade)Anthony Hotskins (Altmer Nightblade)0 -
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✭stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »
Why would people choose that over VD set? Forest through the trees my man!0 -
ku5h✭✭✭✭✭
✭Downplaying the NB/stam Sorc Fengrush meta of stacking Hundings/Kena/Alchemist and bursting tanks through block in under 3 seconds with Ambush/Surprise/Incapacitating/Executioner, and calling for nerfs to Templars... why?
Because they survive too long.
Mkay.
Can we maybe think or ways to increase NB survivability that don't homogenize class lore and stop calling for nerfs every time we fail to kill our target out of sneak in the opening salvo?
Divines forbid we actually work as a TEAM in the "alliance" war.
You kidding right? Perma blocking tank meta is back in full swing. There are stamDKs and magPlars that can tank 5 ppl doing what you explained for a prolongued time. To make it even better they are not tank per say since they can burst you down every 10 sec with DBoS+X combo. StamDK/MagPlar in heay armor is cancer...
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✭Buff Jesus beam! Buff BoL!
Nerf healing ritual!
That is all.
For balancing purposes, I strongly suggest ZOS takes a look at this awesome guy's post and takes his advice into consideration!
@mobicera you are my hero.0 -
BlackEar✭✭✭✭✭I trust the game developers know what to rebalance and what not to
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Linkanton✭✭✭everything in the game has a counter actually. a templar healing is a templar that is not threatening. just l2p!2
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✭✭✭✭✭All the nightblade tears! lol
Sorry something has to stand up to the high damage burst builds.6 -
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✭TequilaFire wrote: »All the nightblade tears! lol
Sorry something has to stand up to the high damage burst builds.
because of those "tanks" are mostly immortal against squishy burst builds while squishi build can by killed in ponly moment by tank build
why if you as squshy build you need to toil to kill this player when he can without bigger problem kill you fast?0 -
Elrond87✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »The class purge needs to go. I find it funny that cloak was op because it purged dots so it got nerfed, but they added an ability that purges dots. That's my main complaint with the class
yea i agree, they should have to use purge from alliance skill line to do thatPC|EU
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Kelces✭✭✭✭✭Right, that's why I see so many suppression fields being planted everywhere by groups. Great logic there...TequilaFire wrote: »All the nightblade tears! lol
Sorry something has to stand up to the high damage burst builds.
Yep, definitely this.You reveal yourself best in how you play.
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Chilla_Deluxe✭✭✭BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Stam sorcs are the meta, but i do agree with @thankyourat, we nightblades lost our cloak purge, templars also need to lose their purge or at least you should not be able to purge ultimates.
How are stamina Sorcerers any stronger than other stamina classes?
You for real?? Well lets see, crit surge + rally permanent 3k heal every crit they get and since hurricane crits quite alot they basically have a very overpowered heal unless you can burst them down quickly.
Second, hurricane passive physical damage that ticks at like 1-2 k per sec, and passive execute called implosion 6% chance to insta kill an enemy at lower then 25% hp (or 20% I dont remember ). Also they can restore 6k stamina in a sec by trading magicka and when do they ever need magicka? That sums it up, not to mention hurricane gives them also major resolve, 5k more resistance which is why in black rose they're pretty damn tanky, also their sorc passives which gives them increased weapon damage and high regen.__________________________
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✭TequilaFire wrote: »All the nightblade tears! lol
Sorry something has to stand up to the high damage burst builds.
I would agree because stamina is too strong, but honestly I would rather fight any stamina user over a magplar in heavy armor sword and shield. Because there are ways to stop yourself from getting bursted, but depending on your build there may not be away to burst through that Templar, and even some of the real tanky templars have enough damage to beat you.1 -
Paraflex✭✭✭✭As a Templar who heals in a group I will agree Templars are very strong right now and should see some nerfs. There is just no reason we should be the best healer in the game. Using heavy armor were some of the best tanks. There's builds out there that can Dps/Heal/Tank and not have resource problem.
I personally hate seeing Templars running reactive/malabeth/black rose sets...something does need to change as heavy armor Templars have everything going for them right now.
I'd like to see a cost increase to BoL and Purify. Decrease the amount each of these skills heal for. The utility that purify brings to anyone is insane they need to chop this skill up.Hollykills CP 630 Templar Healer - Ad PS4 Warlord Rank
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