And yes I am a level 50 crafter in all trades with all relevant skill points allocated...

BruceLeeroy91 wrote: »

Seriously...just refined 600+ rubedite ore, 800+ raw ancestor silk/rubedo leather, and 500+ rough ruby ash. That was close to ten hours of farming and all I got was 1 alloy and 1 rosin. Seiously? How is that possible? Please increase the drop rate ZOS.

They drop about 1 alloy every 450 rubedite ore refined and 1 wax every 200 silk/hide refined at the moment.
You can see my stats in this thread;

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/292497/do-you-think-upgrading-gear-to-yellow-is-too-expensive#latest

If you want a steady supply of gold mats stick to writs

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BruceLeeroy91 wrote: »

There should be some sort of minimum in place. Like something along the lines of at least one gold mat per stack. That wouldn't break anything but at least give some sort of feeling of accomplishment instead of totally getting shafted by RNG in this game yet again.

Those RNG locked mounts in the loot crates at this rate are going to be completely un-rideable.

Just play the game... You're trying to make an argument for price control in an MMO. Nobody wants that, it would lead to countless backlash.

As stated, you can get gold mats from grinding raw mats. I've managed to get 4 gold mats before from around 100 raw mats. It was the perfect number I needed too for a quick replace of a weapon.

Also the prices aren't that bad, if you save up all the stuff you collect, maybe grind some motifs/items/mats. You can make a ton of gold. Let alone all the comprehensive ways of making gold through Guild Traders.

I concur with @UltimaJoe777 I harvested about 20 surveys yesterday and averaged 2 Golds per 200 across metal/wood/clothing, felt like a good day

RNG fella

No offense, but I am calling BS on this. There is no way you got 1 alloy, 1 rosin and 0 wax. Unless you have video proof of this, sorry but you sir are lying horribly.

BlazingDynamo wrote: »

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biovitalb16_ESO wrote: »

No offense, but I am calling BS on this. There is no way you got 1 alloy, 1 rosin and 0 wax. Unless you have video proof of this, sorry but you sir are lying horribly.

I've refined over a 1000 voidstone and gotten 0 alloys before. It's very possible and extremely frustrating.

Damn...i thought my run of 600 without an alloy was bad....

Yes what the feck zos, while there are a lot of losers without jobs who can play all day just picking up ore, some of us actually have lives outside of video games and would like to be able to level up out gear without it taking months.

So it seems split, half the posts receive great drops and have never felt what I am talking about and others understand personally from the same situation happening to them. I work 10 hour days five days a week, and I have enough gold mats to fully upgrade an entire extra set should I want (I already have four complete set ups on my main completely gold and one on my alt) I also understand gold is easy to come by sitting at about 500.000 right now. Neither of those have anything to do with my original post tho, which does not change. The drop rate should be made at least some minimal amount of consistence. 1 gold mat per stack gauranteed is not going to damage any market value, and the lucky ones will still get 3/4 per stack but everyone should be able to know they can get at least one per stack and not totally get shafted.

RNG gives you good days and bad days. I've gotten two dreugh wax from 1 stack of leather and I've skinned 500 fish without getting a perfect roe.

Between the hirelings, refining and doing writs when I feel like it, I think the drop rate is fine overall.

But yes, some days it feels like they are rarer than they actually are, just because you got a bad streak.

The problem with "one gold mat per stack guaranteed" is how do you tell the game to do that? Do you have to have 1 full stack at the time? What if you have half a stack of leather and half a stack of cloth? Should it still apply? What if you refined 190 the previous session? Should the first refine from the next session guarantee you a gold drop?

BruceLeeroy91 wrote: »

Seriously...just refined 600+ rubedite ore, 800+ raw ancestor silk/rubedo leather, and 500+ rough ruby ash. That was close to ten hours of farming and all I got was 1 alloy and 1 rosin. Seiously? How is that possible? Please increase the drop rate ZOS.

Rng gremlins.

I had 26 rubedite ore. I refined them. I got a gold temper and a honing stone.

I had 102 raw ancestor silk. I got one green, two blues.

I had 110 ruby ash. I got no tempers.

It's all about refining at the right time. There are times I won't see a gold mat for a couple hundred refines.
There are times I get 2-4 gold mats per stack.
If you don't get any within 1 stack stop wait a bit or do another day. Wait until you're on a roll before you go through all your mats.

I usually refine at 1K raw and it varies the amount of gold mats I get. Most was 15 and 1 was the least. Its really a crap shoot. Tempering alloys was what I usually got the least of but lately I have been getting them the most.

BruceLeeroy91 wrote: »

Seriously...just refined 600+ rubedite ore, 800+ raw ancestor silk/rubedo leather, and 500+ rough ruby ash. That was close to ten hours of farming and all I got was 1 alloy and 1 rosin. Seiously? How is that possible? Please increase the drop rate ZOS.

I have definitely noticed a difference in drop rates since DB patch, I do alot of farming, every day, and I know random is random, but if you do enough of it there is a regular pattern, which as definitely changed recently, same with drop rates from Writs, to the point they are not really worth doing at all now.

I think the whole community as noticed this difference too, the price of tempers as risen in Guild traders so they are either harder to get or the demand is higher, whichever way there is a noticeable difference

seen this thing happen in other games not long after they introduced cash shop RNG box'x, and I hope it does not happen here, they deliberately manipulate required progress items to drop at a lower rate then have them as random drops from cash shop crates.

Seen this happen in practically every F2P MMO i've played and it was the reason I left these games too. these items are consumables and ZoS have already stated the new cash shop RNG crates due to soon be introduced will randomly contain consumables, so yeah kind of shows the direction the game is heading and to be honest I dont really see ZoS not following what other publishers have done, it is too much of a money maker to ignore.

Zos, up the rate for refining gold mats and up the rate for the hireling to find you gold mats. Cmon, this is ridiculous.