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How Frustrating and Intense is VMA Really?

  • boldscot
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    Milvan wrote: »
    C'mon guys, we all know the real boss in the final fight is the crematorial guard XD

    Not when the boss is dead before he gets to spawn.
  • s7732425ub17_ESO
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    Every time the last boss grabs a ghost I cringe.
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    First time doing vma last night, made it to round 4 with 9 deaths. It's not bad if you can figure out priories. I had to swap my skills around in round 3 to beat it. I don't remember the last time i used rapid regen and i put blade cloak on my magicka character to reduce aoe damage and stay away from her scream. Cake after that.
  • MaxwellC
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    @Ch4mpTW
    Ah honestly I skimmed through it since I had to go to work soon XD
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  • sluice
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    First time doing vma last night, made it to round 4 with 9 deaths. It's not bad if you can figure out priories. I had to swap my skills around in round 3 to beat it. I don't remember the last time i used rapid regen and i put blade cloak on my magicka character to reduce aoe damage and stay away from her scream. Cake after that.

    That's actually pretty good! I don't want to burst your bubble, but Stage 5 is probably the hardest of all vMA.

    The only place you might die as much is at Stage 9 (the first time you go through it).

    -Watch a walkthrough video (Deltia has a good one)
    -Check Joy's guide
    -Learn your kill priorities and stick to them.
    -Use the Sigils.

    Round 3, 4 & 5 of stage 5 are arguably the 3 hardest stages of the whole Arena, in my opinion.

    Every time the last boss grabs a ghost I cringe.

    Everytime :
    A. The boss teleports on a Gold Ghost
    B. Gold Ghost spawns right behind the boss , and I'm at the other end...

    I cringe.


    Except, I have learned my lesson, after 23 runs : stick close enough to the boss to be able to interrupt and grab ghost before him, but not too close to be able to back off of his explosions.

    Still sometime case A happens... Uggghhh RNG..

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  • Ch4mpTW
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    First time doing vma last night, made it to round 4 with 9 deaths. It's not bad if you can figure out priories. I had to swap my skills around in round 3 to beat it. I don't remember the last time i used rapid regen and i put blade cloak on my magicka character to reduce aoe damage and stay away from her scream. Cake after that.

    Congratulations! Well done! Well done indeed. ^_^ In my opinion, once you clear Stage 5? It'll be smooth sailing until Stage 9. And even then, it just takes getting the boss' patterns learned/memorized, and you should be crowned with your "Stormproof" title. Make sure to keep us posted, as I love hearing about the progress of those working on getting VMA cleared. :)
  • Unsent.Soul
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    N0TPLAYER2 wrote: »
    How many times you gonna post about smashing a coffee table? It only makes you look childish.

    What's it to you? Have they ever smashed a table? Your post is as useless as those that don't read the OP and comment regardless..
    Woeler wrote: »
    N0TPLAYER2 wrote: »
    How many times you gonna post about smashing a coffee table? It only makes you look childish.

    Every day I wake up to some new topic by this guy.

    Of the threads that get made often, this isn't bad. Id rather read hundreds of Champ's threads than people bickering about maint. Times for 2 years...
    iRogue32 wrote: »
    @Ch4mpTW why do you make a new post about vMA every single day?

    Great post, glad you decided to chime in here, your opinion is valued greatly.
    sluice wrote: »
    iRogue32 wrote: »
    @Ch4mpTW why do you make a new post about vMA every single day?

    Because it's a free forum and he feels like it.

    Finally. This.
  • Ch4mpTW
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    N0TPLAYER2 wrote: »
    How many times you gonna post about smashing a coffee table? It only makes you look childish.

    What's it to you? Have they ever smashed a table? Your post is as useless as those that don't read the OP and comment regardless..
    Woeler wrote: »
    N0TPLAYER2 wrote: »
    How many times you gonna post about smashing a coffee table? It only makes you look childish.

    Every day I wake up to some new topic by this guy.

    Of the threads that get made often, this isn't bad. Id rather read hundreds of Champ's threads than people bickering about maint. Times for 2 years...
    iRogue32 wrote: »
    @Ch4mpTW why do you make a new post about vMA every single day?

    Great post, glad you decided to chime in here, your opinion is valued greatly.
    sluice wrote: »
    iRogue32 wrote: »
    @Ch4mpTW why do you make a new post about vMA every single day?

    Because it's a free forum and he feels like it.

    Finally. This.

    Thank you for your kindness, sir. I appreciate it. Not too many are as kind as you. :)
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    I've heard the ice stage with the troll is not fun. Havent watched any guides yet until i can get it with out sigils. Then I'll get pro tips and get competitive if I've got time away from pvp and trials.
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    I'm just waiting for the CP cap to be raised again before reattempting. Playing in Cyrodiil really helps improve skills as well because other skilled players are harder than any NPC
  • vonScuzzman
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    Just remember, the first rule of Maelstrom is ...

    Mute your Mic.
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  • SleepyTroll
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    *** that place, it's where people go to hang out with unforgiving *** *** NPC's while playing a game that was ment to be played together with humans.
    I did it once, said I would never go back then I watched a video of FearTurbo doing it and realized just how *** I actually am at this game.
  • captainwolfos
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    The furthest I've gotten in regular MA is the stage with the floating ice platforms.

    After getting a loading screen in the middle of the fight, I was horribly murdered to death (I was even doing quite well up until that point, I honestly surprised myself considering how much I was dreading attempting it)... then I abandoned the entire quest and haven't attempted it since.

    I doubt I'm ever going to get to vet (at least until I get some better hardware, I guess), and while my desperate need to collect all the achievements is crying somewhere in the back of my head, I'm cool with that.
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  • LadyLethalla
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    I can't get past the first boss either with my Stamblade... :/
    I have gotten him to 50% health several times but that's about it. And my friends tell me it's impossible to finish VMA with a Stamblade.



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  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    I can't get past the first boss either with my Stamblade... :/
    I have gotten him to 50% health several times but that's about it. And my friends tell me it's impossible to finish VMA with a Stamblade.



    Vma is very dependant on good gear/skill setup.
    Knowing the mechanics is very important even if it's something as little as killing the plants on Round 3.
    Quicker things die the less you have to heal etc.

    Look online and check what other stam blades are using to guide you.

    To answer your friends I'm a Flawless Conqueror stam nightblade, originally a 2h/bow person (mainly pvp) and I kid you not on my 1st ever VMA attempt using dual wield (I never use these) instead of my trusty 2h I got flawless.
    I even had 2 useless skills on my dps bar - Hunter (for crit) and the Dual wield major brutality move - well not useless but you can get both these buffs from a potion but I'm to cheap for that :)

    Edited by Wrecking_Blow_Spam on September 9, 2016 6:54AM
    Xbox one EU
    8 Flawless conquerors on all class specs (4 stam, 4 magicka)
    Doesn't stand in red
  • SublimeSparo
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    What lag in vMA? I never get lag in vMA it works perfectly.
    https://youtu.be/fuvl0l0L32s
    See, working as intended
    PS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
    vAA HM ☆ vHRC HM ☆ vSO HM ☆ vMOL
    4th Console vMOL clear,
    vMA cleared on all classes stam & magic

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    EU
    High Sparo - Altmer - mSo DD.
    Wood Sparo - Bosmer - sNB DD
    Nord Sparo - Nord -sDK DD/Tank.
    Bubble Girl - Imperial -sTe DD
    Succubus Sue - Breton - mNB Tank.
    Andrana Stormlock - Altmer - mTe Healer/ DD
    Elvali Marvani - Dunmer - mDK DD.
    Venemus Draconem - Redguard - sDK DD
    Jayri Leki - Redguard - sSo DD.
    Miss Jabsalot - Altmer - mTe PvP DD/ Tank
    Mireli Hlaano - Dunmer - mNB DD.
    Ms Shanks - Redguard - sNB DD/ le bank

    NA
    Dilemma Dame - Altmer - mDK DD
    Stamsorc Kitty - Redguard - sSor DD
    Aia Draconis - Imperial - sDK Tank
    Decides-Who-Lives - Argonian - mTe Healer
    You wont stop me - Altmer - mSo DD
    Stab in the dark - Khajiit - sNB DD
    Jabjabjab Beambeambeam - Dunmer - mTe DD
    Spatium Auxiliarus - Imperial - hTe Tank&bank
    Spectre - Altmer - mNB DD
    Can't-Main-Tank -Argonian - sDK offTank
  • Ch4mpTW
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    What lag in vMA? I never get lag in vMA it works perfectly.
    https://youtu.be/fuvl0l0L32s
    See, working as intended

    LOL! Damn it, man. I can only imagine how you felt on that 1. :D
    Edited by Ch4mpTW on September 9, 2016 7:40AM
  • SublimeSparo
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    What lag in vMA? I never get lag in vMA it works perfectly.
    https://youtu.be/fuvl0l0L32s
    See, working as intended

    LOL! Damn it, man. I can only imagine how you felt on that 1. :D

    Things like that combined with pretty much bluescreening everytime on the 7th round is why i cba with Flawless Conquerer, or RNGLagless Conquerer as it should known
    PS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
    vAA HM ☆ vHRC HM ☆ vSO HM ☆ vMOL
    4th Console vMOL clear,
    vMA cleared on all classes stam & magic

    My Tribe
    EU
    High Sparo - Altmer - mSo DD.
    Wood Sparo - Bosmer - sNB DD
    Nord Sparo - Nord -sDK DD/Tank.
    Bubble Girl - Imperial -sTe DD
    Succubus Sue - Breton - mNB Tank.
    Andrana Stormlock - Altmer - mTe Healer/ DD
    Elvali Marvani - Dunmer - mDK DD.
    Venemus Draconem - Redguard - sDK DD
    Jayri Leki - Redguard - sSo DD.
    Miss Jabsalot - Altmer - mTe PvP DD/ Tank
    Mireli Hlaano - Dunmer - mNB DD.
    Ms Shanks - Redguard - sNB DD/ le bank

    NA
    Dilemma Dame - Altmer - mDK DD
    Stamsorc Kitty - Redguard - sSor DD
    Aia Draconis - Imperial - sDK Tank
    Decides-Who-Lives - Argonian - mTe Healer
    You wont stop me - Altmer - mSo DD
    Stab in the dark - Khajiit - sNB DD
    Jabjabjab Beambeambeam - Dunmer - mTe DD
    Spatium Auxiliarus - Imperial - hTe Tank&bank
    Spectre - Altmer - mNB DD
    Can't-Main-Tank -Argonian - sDK offTank
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    OK, didn't have an issue until stage 5 last night. I've gotten him to 25% so much. But i thought, until watching a video today, that he would destroy that last platform. So i was fighting that last bit in the h20 lol. I feel like an idiot.

    It was infuriating though. The burst these mobs can put out can 1 shot you. I'll get him tonight now that i know he doesn't collapse it at 25% and i have some time to execute before he does.

    Gonna put more stun on my bar too.
  • Sallington
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    OK, didn't have an issue until stage 5 last night. I've gotten him to 25% so much. But i thought, until watching a video today, that he would destroy that last platform. So i was fighting that last bit in the h20 lol. I feel like an idiot.

    It was infuriating though. The burst these mobs can put out can 1 shot you. I'll get him tonight now that i know he doesn't collapse it at 25% and i have some time to execute before he does.

    Gonna put more stun on my bar too.

    Tip: Leave the platform with the shield sigil for last, and grab it after he breaks the second platform. Almost a guaranteed clear at that point.
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  • sluice
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    Sallington wrote: »
    OK, didn't have an issue until stage 5 last night. I've gotten him to 25% so much. But i thought, until watching a video today, that he would destroy that last platform. So i was fighting that last bit in the h20 lol. I feel like an idiot.

    It was infuriating though. The burst these mobs can put out can 1 shot you. I'll get him tonight now that i know he doesn't collapse it at 25% and i have some time to execute before he does.

    Gonna put more stun on my bar too.

    Tip: Leave the platform with the shield sigil for last, and grab it after he breaks the second platform. Almost a guaranteed clear at that point.

    That's a good tip.

    With the Shield Sigil on, if you have enough DPS, you can just focus on the boss (when there are no ice breaking troll).
    At this point, the boss is on a timer anyway. So you have to kill him before he breaks the ice. It's one of the good DPS check of VMA.
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    Anýa - Bosmer Nightblade (0..50)

    Aldmeri Dominion (PvE only)
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    Marksar - Breton Templar (50)
    Maksar - Bosmer Nightblade (50)
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    #VMATOKENSYSTEM #TRAITCHANGE
    (vMA) drop table and probability
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    I have 3 leki weapons. 2 swords and an axe. Whats better to for vMA? I currently have one sword one axe, but is the 2.5% flat damage increase better than the 8% bleed chance?

    Edit: I ask because equipped sword and axe are legendary, but other sword is epic. All are sharpened or precises so I get one of each trait no matter which combo.
    Edited by Bobby_V_Rockit on September 9, 2016 1:07PM
  • kylewwefan
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    I cant get past round 1 of stage 1. Gear is not the problem, the pure lack of any skill seems to be lol.

    @Bobby_V_Rockit
    Which class are you attempting to clear it with, and magicka or stamina? If I can clear VMA with a PetSorc relatively easy, you can definitely clear it. Promised bruh. Let me know the class type and magicka and stamina, and I'll try to post-up a clear for you.


    I have a stamblade, magplar, and soon a MagSorc.....but I am terribad unskilled player. Need easy mode. Easy easy mode. Help me out!
  • DocFrost72
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    sluice wrote: »
    iRogue32 wrote: »
    @Ch4mpTW why do you make a new post about vMA every single day?

    Because it's a free forum and he feels like it.

    b0b4q.gif
  • Pallio
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    VMSA is like scrubbing all the toilets, bath tubs, and floors in someone else's house, just hoping they notice and give you something for it. Horrible experience with very little chance of any useful reward. RNG is killing the game.
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    the frustrating part is rng
  • sluice
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    @Pallio, @Pallio

    Yes I know.. :disappointed:
    Took me 24 run to get my Sharpened Greatsword, which makes me somewhat lucky.
    But when you consider this: ~34 hours (including my first run that took like 10 hours lol) to get this weapon is crazy.

    I didn't get a single Sharpened anything in those previous 23 runs.

    If RNG wasn't this painful, I would continue to run vMA for other sharpened gear. But now, after ~34 hours, I'm out of there.

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    sluice - Orc Sorcerer (50)
    Anýa - Bosmer Nightblade (0..50)

    Aldmeri Dominion (PvE only)
    Arýä - Altmer Sorcerer (50)
    Marksar - Breton Templar (50)
    Maksar - Bosmer Nightblade (50)
    sluice - Imperial Dragonknight (0..50) R.I.P.

    Ebonheart Pact
    Can't-Heal-Stupid - Argonian Templar (0..50)

    #VMATOKENSYSTEM #TRAITCHANGE
    (vMA) drop table and probability
  • the_man_of_steal
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    I'm so torn because I want VMA to be a challenge and yet I do sympathize with those who have quit or are just very frustrated with having to do it over and over again for endless months without getting the rewards they want. Very difficult issue.

    I humbly suggest to ZOS that in Nov during the Orsinium anniversary they change VMA for a week so you can get tokens for each clear and you're able to purchase VMA weapons with RNG traits. I don't think this should be a permanent change, but it would revamp VMA for a week for sure!
  • Schemering
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    I'm so torn because I want VMA to be a challenge and yet I do sympathize with those who have quit or are just very frustrated with having to do it over and over again for endless months without getting the rewards they want. Very difficult issue.

    I humbly suggest to ZOS that in Nov during the Orsinium anniversary they change VMA for a week so you can get tokens for each clear and you're able to purchase VMA weapons with RNG traits. I don't think this should be a permanent change, but it would revamp VMA for a week for sure!

    What about an extra difficulty level, scale current veteran Maelstrom bit down and make a difficult version thats scaled up compared to current vet. Its about a year old now and could use an upgrade;) A token system is in general a good idea i think, not only for vet maelstrom
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  • Mush55
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    EsoRecon wrote: »
    all you need to do to make vMA a cakewalk is repetition. Keep doing it over and over until eventually it clicks.

    Been stuck on round 5 for 3/4 days now, just about ready to give up it's the sheer number of mobs that you have to deal with as well as the boss not forgetting the flo smashing trolls all put together along with skills and bar swaps not working.

    I know the spawns off by heart now but it just aint coming together. I'll give it another day the this bloody place can kiss my but .

    Big salute to all the have the patience , gold , soul gems and skill to complete it but after so many days the novelty of trying to pass this round has worn off
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