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✭✭Rage_Killin wrote: »S/b stam DKS are Tanky but strong? That's black rose that makes them strong not class abilities.
Totally disagree. You can make a lot of sets that will be effective and good. BR is one of te strongest but dont fool Yourself to belive that 1 set makes certain class OP and without it class isnt strong.
agree with you man , this set make Dk stam OP , and without this set , Dk stam stay OP .
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Rage_Killin✭✭✭Ok so for those people saying no to stam whip, could you explain your reasoning? Why should everyone else have a stam spamable but DKS are forced to use WB or become a tank. I'm not talking about Pve really but if you want to mention Pve then yeah I can understand why you say it will be strong. With all the dots this class has substituting WB or heroic slash with a stam whip would probably be equal to what we have already so i don't see it becoming "OP"1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Rage_Killin wrote: »Ok so for those people saying no to stam whip, could you explain your reasoning? Why should everyone else have a stam spamable but DKS are forced to use WB or become a tank. I'm not talking about Pve really but if you want to mention Pve then yeah I can understand why you say it will be strong. With all the dots this class has substituting WB or heroic slash with a stam whip would probably be equal to what we have already so i don't see it becoming "OP"
What spammable move does a sorc have? Any issue your DK has, sorcs have it worse.
"Sorcs have... well they have utility" - that made me laugh out loud. Yay "utility" ! That's so OP in PvP.... lmao.0 -
Rage_Killin✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Rage_Killin wrote: »Ok so for those people saying no to stam whip, could you explain your reasoning? Why should everyone else have a stam spamable but DKS are forced to use WB or become a tank. I'm not talking about Pve really but if you want to mention Pve then yeah I can understand why you say it will be strong. With all the dots this class has substituting WB or heroic slash with a stam whip would probably be equal to what we have already so i don't see it becoming "OP"
What spammable move does a sorc have? Any issue your DK has, sorcs have it worse.
"Sorcs have... well they have utility" - that made me laugh out loud. Yay "utility" ! That's so OP in PvP.... lmao.
I've seen stam sorcs wreck **** in Pvp!
I've never said stam sorcs don't need stam morphs, I'm all for it! You can't deny that they have great utility though can you? And you can't deny that it's not great in pvp can you?
BESIDES; This post was for Stam DKS. If you want to discuss stam sorcs make your own fourm post?Edited by Rage_Killin on September 2, 2016 4:08PM0 -
iRogue32✭✭✭Rage_Killin wrote: »Ok so for those people saying no to stam whip, could you explain your reasoning? Why should everyone else have a stam spamable but DKS are forced to use WB or become a tank. I'm not talking about Pve really but if you want to mention Pve then yeah I can understand why you say it will be strong. With all the dots this class has substituting WB or heroic slash with a stam whip would probably be equal to what we have already so i don't see it becoming "OP"
Stamina DKs have access to multiple stamina class DoTs as well as Major Mending, and multiple CCs (including a soft CC). They do not need a stamina version of a class Stamina, especially one that is instant cast. Stamina DKs are head and shoulders above magicka DKs in pvp, so magicka DKs do not need to lose a powerful skill to their stamina counterparts.Epic Synergy (rip)
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Rage_Killin✭✭✭Powerful skill? They won't loose one! They are not going to be effected by it in any way for pvp. Nobody uses flame lash in pvp they use whip.0
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iRogue32✭✭✭Rage_Killin wrote: »Powerful skill? They won't loose one! They are not going to be effected by it in any way for pvp. Nobody uses flame lash in pvp they use whip.
Care to address why they need a spammable instant cast skill? Or are you going to continue to only address part of my argument?Epic Synergy (rip)
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Rage_Killin✭✭✭Easy, because every other class besides stam sorc has one.
Surprise attack NB
Jabs Templar
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iRogue32✭✭✭Rage_Killin wrote: »Easy, because every other class has one.
Sorcerers DO NOT. And just because other classes have access to something does not mean that X class should. Classes are supposed to have differences.Epic Synergy (rip)
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Rage_Killin✭✭✭Rage_Killin wrote: »Easy, because every other class has one.
Sorcerers DO NOT. And just because other classes have access to something does not mean that X class should. Classes are supposed to have differences.
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iRogue32✭✭✭Rage_Killin wrote: »Rage_Killin wrote: »Easy, because every other class has one.
Sorcerers DO NOT. And just because other classes have access to something does not mean that X class should. Classes are supposed to have differences.
Differences? A stam whip is "different"
LOL. There is no reasoning with stupid. Have a good day Epic Synergy (rip)
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Rage_Killin✭✭✭Rage_Killin wrote: »Rage_Killin wrote: »Easy, because every other class has one.
Sorcerers DO NOT. And just because other classes have access to something does not mean that X class should. Classes are supposed to have differences.
Differences? A stam whip is "different"
LOL. There is no reasoning with stupid. Have a good day
Agreed, although I don't see how a debate is "stupid". Nobody forced you into my opinion and I'm not forced into yours.0 -
Abob✭✭✭People saying stam dk's are weak in pvp can't be taken seriously. They have been the strongest solo class since IC went live, and at that time black rose wasn't as op as ignorants say it is today.
Honestly, most of the people posting here are easy kills in the game, no matter the class.
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I don't believe anyone here has said stamPeople saying stam dk's are weak in pvp can't be taken seriously. They have been the strongest solo class since IC went live, and at that time black rose wasn't as op as ignorants say it is today.
Honestly, most of the people posting here are easy kills in the game, no matter the class.
DKS are weak in pvp. All we are discussing is adding a stam morph of whip.
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Apherius✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Rage_Killin wrote: »Ok so for those people saying no to stam whip, could you explain your reasoning? Why should everyone else have a stam spamable but DKS are forced to use WB or become a tank. I'm not talking about Pve really but if you want to mention Pve then yeah I can understand why you say it will be strong. With all the dots this class has substituting WB or heroic slash with a stam whip would probably be equal to what we have already so i don't see it becoming "OP"
everyone ?
Say me what stamina sorc have for " spamable ability " . and we will talk about the poor Stamina dk :'( the poor stamina dk who is only the 2/3 th stam class in pvp , and first on pve ... oh ... poor stamina
please , don't say me " good ultimate " and all things like this .
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Zeuq✭✭✭Stam DK is really good in PvP has been for a while now.Zeúq - Magicka Dragonknight DC
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I can 100% confirm the OP of the thread (ragekllin) is an extremely easy kill in game.People saying stam dk's are weak in pvp can't be taken seriously. They have been the strongest solo class since IC went live, and at that time black rose wasn't as op as ignorants say it is today.
Honestly, most of the people posting here are easy kills in the game, no matter the class.
Zeúq - Magicka Dragonknight DC
Zeuq - Stamina Dragonknight DC
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Rage_Killin✭✭✭
I can 100% confirm the OP of the thread (ragekllin) is an extremely easy kill in game.People saying stam dk's are weak in pvp can't be taken seriously. They have been the strongest solo class since IC went live, and at that time black rose wasn't as op as ignorants say it is today.
Honestly, most of the people posting here are easy kills in the game, no matter the class.
Surprising since my name in game isn't even rage killin lol0 -
Toast_STS✭✭✭✭If DK gets another stam morph I would like the chains skill so we have a gap closer. BUT (BIG BUT) I don't want chains as it is currently because it doesn't work 90% of the time.VR14 DK Leaps-in-keeps0
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Apherius✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If DK gets another stam morph I would like the chains skill so we have a gap closer. BUT (BIG BUT) I don't want chains as it is currently because it doesn't work 90% of the time.
Lol , if Dk gets another stam morph , for dps , they destroy the game . all magicka will do a revolution , and stop their eso+ abonnement . we d'ont pay a abonnement for be beat in DPS by New player who play with 3 skill and do 35K . And ..; why did you want a chains morph .. did you think it's self-service , you think we are in a restaurant ?, you take what you want ... and grawl because morph "like chains" are not enough cheat for you ? Just say me than you did " irony " please .Edited by Apherius on September 2, 2016 6:30PM0 -
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✭✭OR you can ask for a Skill that one shot boss ? no ? like that , the PVE will be destroy quickly .0 -
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✭DocFrost72 wrote: »Rage_Killin wrote: »Could we PLEASE discuss a Poison whip? Stamina morph of whip would put stam dk on par with other classes and we wouldn't be forced to run s/b tank builds. Nightblades have surprise attack, Templars have jabs, sorcs, well sorcs have great utilities. DKS use 4 out of 5 abilities from weapon skill trees. Would be nice to have a stam morph! (PLEASE DONT MENTION MAGIC DKS WE ALL KNOW THEY NEED HELP!)
PvP, maybe. But you'd have to manage it so it didn't add any more to PvE DPS, since stam DKS typically perform the best already. Maybe if it were just an instant cast spammable?
No way would a stamina whip out perform VMA weapon proc flurry/dot combo so I don't think you have to worry there.
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Toast_STS✭✭✭✭If DK gets another stam morph I would like the chains skill so we have a gap closer. BUT (BIG BUT) I don't want chains as it is currently because it doesn't work 90% of the time.
Lol , if Dk gets another stam morph , for dps , they destroy the game . all magicka will do a revolution , and stop their eso+ abonnement . we d'ont pay a abonnement for be beat in DPS by New player who play with 3 skill and do 35K . And ..; why did you want a chains morph .. did you think it's self-service , you think we are in a restaurant ?, you take what you want ... and grawl because morph "like chains" are not enough cheat for you ? Just say me than you did " irony " please .
Lol wut? How is chains a DPS skill? It's also totally broken, have you seen anyone use it lately?
I am talking about fiery grip and it's morphs for clarification.Edited by Toast_STS on September 2, 2016 6:59PMVR14 DK Leaps-in-keeps0 -
Apherius✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If DK gets another stam morph I would like the chains skill so we have a gap closer. BUT (BIG BUT) I don't want chains as it is currently because it doesn't work 90% of the time.
Lol , if Dk gets another stam morph , for dps , they destroy the game . all magicka will do a revolution , and stop their eso+ abonnement . we d'ont pay a abonnement for be beat in DPS by New player who play with 3 skill and do 35K . And ..; why did you want a chains morph .. did you think it's self-service , you think we are in a restaurant ?, you take what you want ... and grawl because morph "like chains" are not enough cheat for you ? Just say me than you did " irony " please .
Lol wut? How is chains a DPS skill?
Nop , a grap . he don't do DPS . the problem is that you WANT a better morph Stamina of a skill than you don't have . you d'ont have the Poison Whip cheat that you already ask for other stamina morph .Edited by Apherius on September 2, 2016 8:39PM0 -
Toast_STS✭✭✭✭If DK gets another stam morph I would like the chains skill so we have a gap closer. BUT (BIG BUT) I don't want chains as it is currently because it doesn't work 90% of the time.
Lol , if Dk gets another stam morph , for dps , they destroy the game . all magicka will do a revolution , and stop their eso+ abonnement . we d'ont pay a abonnement for be beat in DPS by New player who play with 3 skill and do 35K . And ..; why did you want a chains morph .. did you think it's self-service , you think we are in a restaurant ?, you take what you want ... and grawl because morph "like chains" are not enough cheat for you ? Just say me than you did " irony " please .
Lol wut? How is chains a DPS skill?
Nop , a grap . he don't do DPS . the problem is that you WANT a better morph Stamina of a skill than you don't have . you d'ont have the Poison Whip cheat that you already ask for other stamina morph ! this is not a restaurant .
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Apherius✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If DK gets another stam morph I would like the chains skill so we have a gap closer. BUT (BIG BUT) I don't want chains as it is currently because it doesn't work 90% of the time.
Lol , if Dk gets another stam morph , for dps , they destroy the game . all magicka will do a revolution , and stop their eso+ abonnement . we d'ont pay a abonnement for be beat in DPS by New player who play with 3 skill and do 35K . And ..; why did you want a chains morph .. did you think it's self-service , you think we are in a restaurant ?, you take what you want ... and grawl because morph "like chains" are not enough cheat for you ? Just say me than you did " irony " please .
Lol wut? How is chains a DPS skill?
Nop , a grap . he don't do DPS . the problem is that you WANT a better morph Stamina of a skill than you don't have . you d'ont have the Poison Whip cheat that you already ask for other stamina morph ! this is not a restaurant .
Is there anyway to hide trolls like this on the forum?
nop ,and this is not a troll . i can delete " restaurant " if you want ?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭To OP, for me especially, the phrase, "spammable ability" is an instant trigger. I think everyone that had a mag sorc pre nerf is gonna point out at every chance we get that sorcs do not have a "spammable" ability (we all know about wrath)
Now to your thread's point/request: There is no harm in requesting anything (can I have old daedric tomb back? Please?) However people are gonna want to hear a good reason as to why. Even more so when there are very reasonable requests already being made and not happening.0 -
Linkanton✭✭✭it simply isn't needed. if you want to roll a burst stamina class, just go for a nightblade. Stam DKs are supposed to be the king of sustain and they have good DoTs that fit well into the sustain type of playstyle. A stamina morph of whip simply isn't needed. Now you can still make a bursty stam DK, and you have weapon skills for that. Just build your character for high stam and high weapon power then use any weapon skill you wanna weave, or spam wrecking blow.
Classes are supposed to be different, not just in style but also in how you play them.2