Pandorii wrote: »

This event isn't really for everyone. I'd recommend staying out of the sewers until the chaos subsides. What good is a double drop rate on skin and scamp if you're not getting a loot drop because you're not one of the top 12 dps? What good is double tel var gain if there's a ganker prowling every corner ready to steal them from you?

I've got my sights set for the halloween witch festival.

Try not to get too frustrated.That's how the IC ecosystem works. It's simply being amplified by the event.

Whats bad is it completely broken . only Top 12 DPs have even a remote chance of getting it. healers and tanks dont even bother going. To top it off the early exploiters of the CP system 900 plus CP have a seriious advantage over even the most skilled Player. then again those that exploited the CP system at its release are the top tier PVP players which makes it even worse. IC is beyond broken and bad . its why its empty unless ZOS does something chessy like this to get the PVE community to drop 60 dollars on a DLC they bought for two dungeons just to re buy it for skin and mount. Pfffft not only are they greedy but still have no diea how to fix the DPS meta game they created.

Mortehl wrote: »

Yes there's an exception to every rule but I feel pretty confident that there's far more pve whining than pvp.

LOL There is/has always been more PVP complaining on the forums. All of the exploits, imbalances, etc. seem to have been directly related to PVP

Hmmmn the activity seems normal for a pvp zone when an event is going down. Those that do not need want the skin or stones will be there for the easy pickings. If you are a pve only type this event is not really for you. You don't like the odds of being lunch for the pvp crowd then do not go. No I do not think that the pve crowd deserves to have a an pvp free ic zone. Take yer lumps and have possibility of getting the prize or don't and no prize..... I am not saying this cause I am some rabid pvp nut either. I rarely pvp personally but it is part of the challenge in the ic zone if I go there I expect there to be a possibility of combat and I may lose.

This being said the area was not meant for huge zergs of people running through and if you and twenty others are all beating on the same thing it is probably going to end up with some not getting loot. Keep your group to eight at max and your group should get loot. This is of course provided you do not have a lot of high damage tag alongs but this is really for EVERY fight any where in the game. Sure you can end up with loot with up to twelve after that you just lower the odds of you getting anything at all. Limiting it to eight though keeps your group small enough that there are less stragglers easier to keep everyone together. You would have enough punch to do even molag bal fight. If you can not take him with eight then something is wrong with the group. Other then the possible challenge of opposing factions coming in to spoil the day the molag bal fight is not all that difficult and unless something has changed drastically it is the most difficult fight in the ic zone that is not instanced.

So you went into pvp and are now upset that you had to pvp? Just want to make sure I understand

id like to meet you in IC, several hours after youve been farming preferably, and bring 20 of your closest pve friends too, we'll have a real blast together i promise

Rittings wrote: »

Yeah it's really that bad.

It's never been great - but this, you're right, has made it worse. Just like the capture the flag bs that was introduced did. At least before that all the PVPers would hang out in the Arena district - now the d-baggery has been dissipated throughout the entire city.

We pay for this content - but can't use it. I'd love to go run the quests casually with my wife (we both have ESO+) but after a long horse ride from a random keep (since the other keeps are taken... don't get me even started on the fact you can pay for this content and have d-bags camping the entrances to stop you using what you paid for etc...) only to be ganked within seconds of trying to quest.

Its moronic. The devs need a rethink of this one...

1) You need to have a direct wayshrine into the sewer base.

2) There needs to be a strictly PVE only version of it.

So you're whining about a PvP dungeon having PvP in it?

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Rittings wrote: »

Just like the capture the flag bs that was introduced did. At least before that all the PVPers would hang out in the Arena

I miss the the old arena district game style a lot... sure it was pvp at its most base dumb downed level - but it was also a lot of fun...used to love standing on top of the cages and shooting up to the EP platform or shooting EP in the back from the top of the cages...standing on the EP platform was a great place with great views to zap folks all day long from...AD used to have the spot outside the arena door to hang out at and harass everyone...with everyone bunched so close together it was a proxi det/VD wearers wet dream...oh yeah, at the time that door between the platforms used to activate about every 5 minutes - I remember collecting almost a full marksman set in one night...honestly, after playing there for a few months, combat in cyro was easy...

lots of stones, AP and xp...you could literally play in your sleep...oh well...nothing good ever stays the same :'(

What I dislike is the spawn camping and the door camping.

Camping the spawn and ganking those heading out, or one of the doors, is taking advantage of a limitation in the structure of the game in order to literally ambush someone. With different programming, one could retreat from the caltrops/lightning/retribution destro ring of fire area attacks before going through the door and suddenly standing in it, now unable to activate the door to get out because of programming.

Rittings wrote: »

[snip] It does nothing for the average PvE player (whom I might add are the lifeblood and money behind this game's continued funding).

Great concept - but the capture the flag nonsense (which was applied on the whims of a single post on these forums) along with this latest pandering has done it for me. I won't be returning to the Imperial City anymore - and if I let my ESO+ lapse, I won't be purchasing this DLC - which was once a MUST HAVE but now is a MUST NEVER PLAY!

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Not really sure what you expected it to be. IC is a PvP zone. Are you upset that people are killing you? Then you shouldn't be there.

PvE players have gotten the majority of new content, IC is the small bit of content PvP players have received.

To be completely honest I've enjoyed this event. The sewers and city are actually lively for a change. Managed to make a good 100k stones on day one while having fun PvP'ing.

Unfortunately my internet has been down for the past two days so I haven't been able to farm more TV and tears. Hopefully I'll be right back at it tonight. I'll be glad to help you relieve some stones.

SolarCat02 wrote: »

I am avoiding Imperial City like the plague this week, though. I want to still enjoy it next week, so that means not doing it right now.

You're damn right, and I should have done the same.

I was looking forward to this event and I first thought "wow, this is how IC has always been meant to be played" : small groups, hide-and-seek tactics, gankers on top. Giant zerg chaos in the center underground.

Unfortunately, that did not last long.
- PvPers organizing DUELS !! In there, this week !! With their "personal bodyguards" killing anyone else on sight (poor souls just wanted to help their same-colour-buddy"...). Guys, you have ALL OF CYRO for duelling. GTFO of IC with it. And killing people who just join the fight to help is not fair.
- New form of entitlement regarding district bosses. They drop A LOT of stones, people don't want to share stones, so they want to solo those bosses. If you dare to even cast a mutagen near them, you'll be drowned in insults and accused of leeching. Guys, you know those are group bosses, right ? And you also know they are not "your own private mobs", right ? (If that happens to you, make sure you stick to the guy at all times for the next two hours, tagging all mobs along with him. Depending on your taste, you might or might not put him on ignore beforehand). This is a MMO, these are group mobs meant to be attacked in group.
- Too big groups on Molag Bal, which attract the zergbombers (that's fair), and dilute the loot. Staying there for two hours for looting once is not fun.

I'll wait for next week to go back there, in the hope to find again the usual "IC morning atmosphere" : nice PvE + random 1v1 PvP where anything can happen, and where your opponent might be of any level.

But I've lost most if not all respect for PvPers, probably forever. When I compare what I experienced in IC these past few days, with the nice, extremely organized and friendly cooperation that happens every single day for world bosses in Worthgar or Gold Coast, this is just night and day.

Emma_Overload wrote: »

I agree with OP, this IC "festivity" is SAD JOKE. It's impossible to grind normally anywhere in the IC. There are now AD zergs roaming both the districts AND the sewers... even at EIGHT IN THE FRIGGIN' MORNING? Who the @#$% gets up at 8 AM to ZERG?

People who work in shifts.

Emma_Overload wrote: »

I agree with OP, this IC "festivity" is SAD JOKE. It's impossible to grind normally anywhere in the IC. There are now AD zergs roaming both the districts AND the sewers... even at EIGHT IN THE FRIGGIN' MORNING? Who the @#$% gets up at 8 AM to ZERG?

Me, because I know that you farmers are there just waiting to pay your taxes to my mighty zerg. Everyone knows that people are out getting 100 stones from daedroth and getting teeth so it's easy money for me. I've flooded guild stores with cheap leather and silk, 17 stacks of each to be precise. It's been a profitable week, 30k gold just for that. Plus 3 robust agility rings for 155k each. I'm rich thank you.

You'll come to learn to roll a magblade soon enough to escape us, but to combat this thinking I've gotten my magdk up now so expect perma rooting and lots of lovely fire.