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ZOS & Imperial City One Year Anniversary RANT
MythicEmperor
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A few days ago I would tell anyone that ESO is my favorite game. Easily. But now.......... First, they announce the gamble crates. What is even worse that this, you may ask? What could possibly be worse than the thing that is worse than the COD crates? The upcoming Imperial City collector's pack. Look, the reason I disliked the gamble crates is because they will allow people to get "LIMITED time" cosmetics. This takes away the whole limited factor! Never again will I impulse buy because it is limited. This is a dirty, dirty tactic ZOS, and you know it. You know how many people will gamble away hundreds for a frost horse. Not long ago, I supported ZOS' business model, as I understood it to be how the company made money. Then, the breton hero costume came out, which was absolute garbage, and I bought it. The only reason I didn't refund it is because it is "limited", mind you. If they go through with this I probably will. Recently, the god-awful gamble crates were announced, and then I realized what is going on. ZOS is trying to milk us for what we have left, and soon it may end up like Black Desert Online.
Why am I mad about the Imperial City Anniversary bundle? Two words. LIMITED TIME. I bought the mind-shriven skin last year and skipped the horse. Now, instead of hoping you get the cosmetic, you can directly buy it! Do I wish I had the mind-shriven horse to go along with my skin? Yes, of course I do. Do you know what I want even more? Limited time items to be limited time. For example, I, like many others, missed out on the frost horse. What did I do? Did I become a special snowflake and frantically complain in the forums that other people were more active or more aware at that time, and everyone should be able to get it again? No. If I see a frost horse It usually means the rider is experienced because he's been around a while. Same for the zombie horse, or even the mind-shriven horse. What about the Nightmare courser? I see a new player who hopped on a bandwagon. Now, fast forward when everyone has an icy or electric mount. What will I see? Well first of all they will be everywhere, which will be rather distracting, but having that mount is no longer an accomplishment. It no longer shows, "Hey, yeah I've been here a long time," or "Hey, I'm a dedicated player." It now shows, "I have lots of money."
My point is these mounts and cosmetics will lose their uniqueness, and think about this ZOS: If ESO were real, ice mounts would be very rare, as they are currently. I think this "muh immersion" call is justified, because something like that should only be seen very rarely. In conclusion, ZOS please revert your choices. Don't head down this path. This is currently my favorite game, and I want you to save it. #MakeESOGreatAgain
Edited by MythicEmperor on August 26, 2016 10:01PM Why am I mad about the Imperial City Anniversary bundle? Two words. LIMITED TIME. I bought the mind-shriven skin last year and skipped the horse. Now, instead of hoping you get the cosmetic, you can directly buy it! Do I wish I had the mind-shriven horse to go along with my skin? Yes, of course I do. Do you know what I want even more? Limited time items to be limited time. For example, I, like many others, missed out on the frost horse. What did I do? Did I become a special snowflake and frantically complain in the forums that other people were more active or more aware at that time, and everyone should be able to get it again? No. If I see a frost horse It usually means the rider is experienced because he's been around a while. Same for the zombie horse, or even the mind-shriven horse. What about the Nightmare courser? I see a new player who hopped on a bandwagon. Now, fast forward when everyone has an icy or electric mount. What will I see? Well first of all they will be everywhere, which will be rather distracting, but having that mount is no longer an accomplishment. It no longer shows, "Hey, yeah I've been here a long time," or "Hey, I'm a dedicated player." It now shows, "I have lots of money."
My point is these mounts and cosmetics will lose their uniqueness, and think about this ZOS: If ESO were real, ice mounts would be very rare, as they are currently. I think this "muh immersion" call is justified, because something like that should only be seen very rarely. In conclusion, ZOS please revert your choices. Don't head down this path. This is currently my favorite game, and I want you to save it. #MakeESOGreatAgain
With cold regards,
Mythic
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Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
Hir Hlaalu, Dunmer Warden
Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
Fargoth of Morrowind, Bosmer commoner
Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
Hir Hlaalu, Dunmer Warden
Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
Fargoth of Morrowind, Bosmer commoner
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Uphz✭✭✭If you're so concerned about the rarity of mounts I wouldn't worry too much since the 'gamble boxes' will only contain consumables unless someone is really lucky and gets a mount/costume. Then it will still take multiple boxes most of the time to get any of those at all, so things will stay rare.0 -
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✭Please edit your post with the use of paragraphs if you seriously intend anyone to read it.
Done.With cold regards,
Mythic
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Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
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Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
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✭✭✭✭✭They are still limited time. Any amount of time they spend off the Crown Store means they're only available for a limited time. It's like pumpkin spice coffee. It's only available for a limited time at most places, but it keeps coming back. And it's delicious and I love it. It came back too early this year AGAIN, though. For some reason people think fall starts in August, shaking my fuzzy head.
Anyway there are still lots of great reasons to hate the gambling boxes, but this idea that "limited time" means "never happening again" doesn't do it for me.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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Bonzodog01✭✭✭✭✭Remember, this offer will only be open for 6 days. Also, it seems you will need to buy the entire collectors bundle just to get the mind-shriven skin and horse.
No matter which way you swing it, there is still going to be a very limited number of people investing in the pack. I just missed this last year on XBox, and have been wanting the chance to get this skin ever since. So, I will likely fork out for the bundle.Edited by Bonzodog01 on August 26, 2016 10:04PMXbox One - EU - EP/DCTrying and failing to hold the walls of his Templar house up since 20150 -
Kemono✭✭✭You want to talk abount mount uniques?
There was a time when Cyrodil looked like this (btw joke is: you can count non-white mounts on fingers, all those folks bought imperial Edition - and this vid was created very shortly after game release)
https://youtu.be/-DV9TwsosyI?t=130
Now? imperial horse is one of RAREST mount. i see more of dro mathra and wolves then this white horse
And camel are ultra rare too, mostly cos they give you "sea sickness" effect for riding too much on them.
For mind shriven horse and armor?
jokes on you -im going to buy it for sure
btw no need for this thread(as separate one) and its going to be lockedEdited by Kemono on August 26, 2016 10:09PM0 -
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Woah, jokes on me for sure!Edited by MythicEmperor on August 26, 2016 10:09PMWith cold regards,
Mythic
Favorite Characters:Kilith Telvayn, Dunmer Telvanni Sorcerer (main)
Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
Hir Hlaalu, Dunmer Warden
Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
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✭tl:dr OP'S upset because limited time items are no longer limited...
Special snowflake status.... GONE!1 -
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✭✭✭lim·it·ed
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restricted in size, amount, or extent; few, small, or short.
"a limited number of places are available"
Limited time =/= one time only
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MythicEmperor✭✭✭✭✭
✭Unsent.Soul wrote: »tl:dr OP'S upset because limited time items are no longer limited...
Special snowflake status.... GONE!
Well you see I prefer that ZOS doesn't lie to its consumers, that's all.With cold regards,
Mythic
Favorite Characters:Kilith Telvayn, Dunmer Telvanni Sorcerer (main)
Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
Hir Hlaalu, Dunmer Warden
Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
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MarkusLiberty✭✭✭✭✭Special snowflake status.... GONE!
Special snowflake status will be re-applied once the bundle has finished its duration in the store.
I'm currently waiting for the Masked Bear to finish it's round so that I can finally claim my very own special snowflake status. It will be so sweet, and everyone will be jealous.Edited by MarkusLiberty on August 27, 2016 12:24AM*Special Snowflake*1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I suggest buying stuff that you think look nice because it looks nice, not to try to be different from everybody else. That can save you some frustration later if they decide to bring more stuff back for a limited time for direct purchase (although I imagine that, with Crown Crates, this is the last time this will happen).Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
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Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
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Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
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✭✭✭MythicEmperor wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »tl:dr OP'S upset because limited time items are no longer limited...
Special snowflake status.... GONE!
Well you see I prefer that ZOS doesn't lie to its consumers, that's all.
Failing at reading comprehension does not mean someone lied to you.@wayfarerx - PC / North America / Aldmeri Dominion4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Limited time means the said item is available during that time. It doesnt mean the item will never return ever.
This. The McRib returns every year and is "limited time".
There is absolutely nothing wrong with bringing old items back for direct purchase periodically. This is a good thing.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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Cynnalia✭✭✭While it may be semantics, the Mind Shriven horse was never advertised as limited. It was offered at IC launch with no caveats about how long it was going to stay in the Crown Store - it was only with the October 2, 2015 Crown Store Showcase where they said the Mind Shriven horse was leaving the Crown Store on November 2. It was not offered or priced the same as the 4-day Limited Time mounts like the bear currently up for offer.NA PS4 Daggerfall Covenant Characters -- CP 755
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✭Limited time means the said item is available during that time. It doesnt mean the item will never return ever.
This. The McRib returns every year and is "limited time".
There is absolutely nothing wrong with bringing old items back for direct purchase periodically. This is a good thing.
Perfect comparison. Because you need cosmetics in ESO as much as you need a McRib for lunch.
OP, don't get all salty because you're so willing to be fleeced.
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✭✭✭✭✭lim·it·ed
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restricted in size, amount, or extent; few, small, or short.
"a limited number of places are available"
Limited time =/= one time only
Right. ZOS have said since the very first "limited time" item that such items would most likely be available again for similar limited periods in the future.Limited time means the said item is available during that time. It doesnt mean the item will never return ever.UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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✭✭✭The worst part is Imperial City is an unfinished Broken Mess. The fact they are reselling it in a collectors is ridiculous.House Baratheon: 'Ours Is The Fury'0 -
Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The worst part is Imperial City is an unfinished Broken Mess. The fact they are reselling it in a collectors is ridiculous.
Are you being facetious? What's broken or unfinished about the Imperial City? The only thing funky about it is that it doesn't contribute to the campaign.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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✭✭Sorry but they needed to bring back the mind shriven skin because I missed out on it and want it. So I am very happy they are doing this
Edited by Thevampirenight on August 27, 2016 12:10AMPC NA
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Avenias✭✭✭✭MythicEmperor wrote: »A few days ago I would tell anyone that ESO is my favorite game. Easily. But now.......... First, they announce the gamble crates. What is even worse that this, you may ask? What could possibly be worse than the thing that is worse than the COD crates? The upcoming Imperial City collector's pack. Look, the reason I disliked the gamble crates is because they will allow people to get "LIMITED time" cosmetics. This takes away the whole limited factor! Never again will I impulse buy because it is limited. This is a dirty, dirty tactic ZOS, and you know it. You know how many people will gamble away hundreds for a frost horse. Not long ago, I supported ZOS' business model, as I understood it to be how the company made money. Then, the breton hero costume came out, which was absolute garbage, and I bought it. The only reason I didn't refund it is because it is "limited", mind you. If they go through with this I probably will. Recently, the god-awful gamble crates were announced, and then I realized what is going on. ZOS is trying to milk us for what we have left, and soon it may end up like Black Desert Online.
Why am I mad about the Imperial City Anniversary bundle? Two words. LIMITED TIME. I bought the mind-shriven skin last year and skipped the horse. Now, instead of hoping you get the cosmetic, you can directly buy it! Do I wish I had the mind-shriven horse to go along with my skin? Yes, of course I do. Do you know what I want even more? Limited time items to be limited time. For example, I, like many others, missed out on the frost horse. What did I do? Did I become a special snowflake and frantically complain in the forums that other people were more active or more aware at that time, and everyone should be able to get it again? No. If I see a frost horse It usually means the rider is experienced because he's been around a while. Same for the zombie horse, or even the mind-shriven horse. What about the Nightmare courser? I see a new player who hopped on a bandwagon. Now, fast forward when everyone has an icy or electric mount. What will I see? Well first of all they will be everywhere, which will be rather distracting, but having that mount is no longer an accomplishment. It no longer shows, "Hey, yeah I've been here a long time," or "Hey, I'm a dedicated player." It now shows, "I have lots of money."
My point is these mounts and cosmetics will lose their uniqueness, and think about this ZOS: If ESO were real, ice mounts would be very rare, as they are currently. I think this "muh immersion" call is justified, because something like that should only be seen very rarely. In conclusion, ZOS please revert your choices. Don't head down this path. This is currently my favorite game, and I want you to save it. #MakeESOGreatAgain
Good god. I have never seen someone more salty about crates then this guy. Nobody is forcing u to buy it so dont1 -
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I don't mean unfinished as in they gave up on it part way through. But it just never really worked the way it was meant to. Then they added the capture flags which were meant to improve it but made it worse as, due to only having 1 flag it meant Larger number of players won most of the time.
It is the only 'PvP DLC' in the game and all the districts are so covered in Monsters you can't even traverse them without aggroing a million monsters. As well as monsters aggroing you mid fight with another player. Tel Var stones being kinda useless after you buy the set or 2 that you need from them and it generally being really disappointing for PvP players.
Nowadays the main population is Grinders, Farmers and a couple of Gankers. I don't want to have an argument about it but it just never really achieved what it was meant to in regards to PvP. House Baratheon: 'Ours Is The Fury'0 -
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If the announcement is accurate, you will be buying the entire bundle which includes everything and not the individual items separately. Typically bundles are 5000 crowns, seems a lot just for a skin. Guess we will see Monday .....Thevampirenight wrote: »Sorry but they needed to bring back the mind shriven skin because I missed out on it and want it. So I am very happy they are doing this
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I don't mean unfinished as in they gave up on it part way through. But it just never really worked the way it was meant to. Then they added the capture flags which were meant to improve it but made it worse as, due to only having 1 flag it meant Larger number of players won most of the time.
It is the only 'PvP DLC' in the game and all the districts are so covered in Monsters you can't even traverse them without aggroing a million monsters. As well as monsters aggroing you mid fight with another player. Tel Var stones being kinda useless after you buy the set or 2 that you need from them and it generally being really disappointing for PvP players.
Nowadays the main population is Grinders, Farmers and a couple of Gankers. I don't want to have an argument about it but it just never really achieved what it was meant to in regards to PvP.
Ooookay I understand what you're saying now. Not so much about the larger number of players winning (I mean that happens in all the PvP), but at least in terms of it being a PvE-focused PvP update. I'd say that while it's largely PvE-focused, it does offer some very unique PvP strategies and situations to play out, and I'm always happy at the end of a jaunt in the Imperial City. Definitely not a serviceable map for all player types, though.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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MrAppleman✭✭✭So if I started playing after frost horse was released and I never got a chance to get it and I want it, *** me right?
If you agreed with their business model why not this? All these new players who see cool *** and never got a chance to buy it want their shot at getting it and may drop *** ton of crowns.
You're just mad because you want to be a cool kid who bought sonething first...0 -
MythicEmperor✭✭✭✭✭
✭MythicEmperor wrote: »Unsent.Soul wrote: »tl:dr OP'S upset because limited time items are no longer limited...
Special snowflake status.... GONE!
Well you see I prefer that ZOS doesn't lie to its consumers, that's all.
Failing at reading comprehension does not mean someone lied to you.
Interesting how you must resort to personal attacks at this point, when I have directed no hate towards you. Anyways, I am not speaking of McDonalds or whatever irrelevant comparisons are being made, but I am speaking of our trust in ZOS. You see, limited, in its general use, refers to something being restricted, and by that definition you may find that these items would be limited in number. It is -not- limited in number if it is slapped back into the store for all to buy.With cold regards,
Mythic
Favorite Characters:Kilith Telvayn, Dunmer Telvanni Sorcerer (main)
Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
Hir Hlaalu, Dunmer Warden
Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
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MythicEmperor✭✭✭✭✭
✭MrAppleman wrote: »So if I started playing after frost horse was released and I never got a chance to get it and I want it, *** me right?
If you agreed with their business model why not this? All these new players who see cool *** and never got a chance to buy it want their shot at getting it and may drop *** ton of crowns.
You're just mad because you want to be a cool kid who bought sonething first...
It is no one's fault but -your's- that you did not buy the frost horse. If you were a long time player, this would not be an issue. The limited time cosmetics should give these dedicated players a unique appearance.With cold regards,
Mythic
Favorite Characters:Kilith Telvayn, Dunmer Telvanni Sorcerer (main)
Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
Hir Hlaalu, Dunmer Warden
Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
Fargoth of Morrowind, Bosmer commoner0
