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How many would you be willing to buy before you gave up?
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Slurg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It looks like more people replied with "0" than actually voted in this poll. But polls don't mean a whole lot. We'll all see what happens when this mess goes live and people really really want what can only be found in the box. Sad part is for every long time player who leaves over this there will be a new player who accepts or even likes this sort of thing and will spend more money.
Happy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
Remembering better days of less RNG in all the things.2 -
Holycannoli✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Your analogies are not remotely comparable. You're comparing the main purchase on the one hand with a trivial extra on the other hand.
Let's just take the motorcycle. A better analogy is that you've bought a motorcycle and go into the shop some time later. There are some fancy stick-on stripes that you can put on the bike. They're completely unnecessary and purely cosmetic, they don't affect the motorcycle's performance or your enjoyment of the ride one iota, but they look neat. They used to be available to buy on a limited time offer, but you bought the motorcycle too late to get them. The shopkeeper tells you not to worry, they're now going to be available again on a random chance basis if you buy their in-store lottery ticket. It's entirely your choice whether to buy a ticket or not, and you may or may not consider it worth a punt.
The motorcycle is the main item, equivalent to buying the game. The fancy stick-on stripes are the equivalent of a mount or costume in the game, neat but wholly inessential to riding the bike/playing the game. Making out that the main purchase of the motorcycle is equivalent to a non-essential cosmetic or convenience item in the game is absurd.
Nope you're wrong. You may already have quite a few motorcycles in your collection, but you want this new one that looks so good. You can't buy it, you have to spend tons to gamble for it, and you'll probably get tons of crap you don't want instead of the bike. Not too bad if you're rich as hell but let's say you're like the 99% and don't want to blow your savings like that. You have enough for the bike but can't spend 4x - 10x what it costs.
The mount in the box is the main purchase, it's the whole reason for the box in the first place. The motorcycle isn't the game itself (wtf?), it's the mount you want - and won't get because the odds will be 1% or less. You didn't already buy that mount in the box, you have to gamble for it.
If your analogy was for skins for our existing mounts then yes you'd be correct, but I also wouldn't have made my analogy in the first place.
I'm telling you right now these gambling boxes will have a very small chance at dropping what we want and a very large chance of dropping crap like crown potions. There may be a costume here and there, maybe a racial motif, but not what we really want. That's the whole point of gambling boxes.
How about the most obvious analogy of all: carnival/boardwalk games. They may have an ipad or TV as the grand prize, but you know you aren't winning it without spending a ton spinning that wheel unless the RNGenie granted you a wish. I never, ever play those games when I'm on the boardwalk, but I do expect them to be there. I do not expect them, or welcome them, in my MMORPG. Keep that crap out of here.Edited by Holycannoli on August 23, 2016 10:48PM5 -
Tylersoh✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »Never touching those *** things. So, zero. The instant they hit live, I'm gone, and never coming back.
I'd quit too but i cant find a good MMO that my pc can handle.
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NateAssassin✭✭✭✭✭If I had 400 crowns left after getting a DLC and the hairstyle/accessories I want, I might get one, considering this game's RNG, I'd always just get health potions and soul gems from the boxes.AD | Malaya the Mystic ─ VR16 Khajiit Sorc | Shal'ina the Swift ─ VR16 Khajiit NB | Jòhn Cena ─ VR1 Khajiit NB | Priestess Shaari ─ VR1 Temp0 -
FriedEggSandwich✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've never consciously gambled with real money, so not about to start. Besides I have the senche tiger so why would I want to ride anything else?
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Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭*grabs pitchfork and torch* Give us a zero option!!!Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!5 -
Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭OP must be a Zeni spy trying to figure out if players will actually buy these lock boxes since they neglected to ask us if we wanted them in the first place.
The fail is strong with this thread.Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!3 -
JamieAubrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'll buy 1 maybe 2 at the most
Although I'll just make an unboxing YT series and let the money roll in and buy more xD0 -
leothedino✭✭✭✭Stovahkiin wrote: »OP must be a Zeni spy trying to figure out if players will actually buy these lock boxes since they neglected to ask us if we wanted them in the first place.
The fail is strong with this thread.
I remade the poll for people to express these thoughts and opinions. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3294705#Comment_3294705Edited by leothedino on August 24, 2016 1:12AM1 -
Lumenn✭✭✭✭✭
✭leothedino wrote: »Stovahkiin wrote: »OP must be a Zeni spy trying to figure out if players will actually buy these lock boxes since they neglected to ask us if we wanted them in the first place.
The fail is strong with this thread.
I remade the poll for people to express these thoughts and opinions. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3294705#Comment_3294705
Yeah, but they closed it. Left THIS one open though....0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leothedino wrote: »Stovahkiin wrote: »OP must be a Zeni spy trying to figure out if players will actually buy these lock boxes since they neglected to ask us if we wanted them in the first place.
The fail is strong with this thread.
I remade the poll for people to express these thoughts and opinions. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3294705#Comment_3294705
Yeah, but they closed it. Left THIS one open though....
Of course, this one doesn't show unanimous opposition to the idea. This one actually makes it look like people will spend money on this crap. Of course this one gets to stay open.2 -
Lumenn✭✭✭✭✭
✭starkerealm wrote: »leothedino wrote: »Stovahkiin wrote: »OP must be a Zeni spy trying to figure out if players will actually buy these lock boxes since they neglected to ask us if we wanted them in the first place.
The fail is strong with this thread.
I remade the poll for people to express these thoughts and opinions. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3294705#Comment_3294705
Yeah, but they closed it. Left THIS one open though....
Of course, this one doesn't show unanimous opposition to the idea. This one actually makes it look like people will spend money on this crap. Of course this one gets to stay open.
Yup.0 -
Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ha, I just read Zeni's reason for closing the other thread, they can say goodbye to the chance of me ever going back to the game and subbing if they keep going down this road.Edited by Stovahkiin on August 24, 2016 1:34AMBeware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!1 -
Humatiel✭✭✭✭appears to be missing a 0.VMA | vHRC-HM | vAA-HM | vSO-HM | vMOL-HM
700+ CP
GM of Luxury Raids3 -
Junkogen✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »Never touching those *** things. So, zero. The instant they hit live, I'm gone, and never coming back.
Damn...for real. Are people really this outraged?0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »Never touching those *** things. So, zero. The instant they hit live, I'm gone, and never coming back.
Damn...for real. Are people really this outraged?
Yeah. I lived through these things getting introduced in a lot of MMOs I really enjoyed. I have no desire to watch the whole process again.6 -
Synfaer✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Never touching those *** things. So, zero. The instant they hit live, I'm gone, and never coming back.
Damn...for real. Are people really this outraged?
Yeah. I lived through these things getting introduced in a lot of MMOs I really enjoyed. I have no desire to watch the whole process again.
^This1 -
Synfaer✭✭✭✭✭leothedino wrote: »Stovahkiin wrote: »OP must be a Zeni spy trying to figure out if players will actually buy these lock boxes since they neglected to ask us if we wanted them in the first place.
The fail is strong with this thread.
I remade the poll for people to express these thoughts and opinions. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3294705#Comment_3294705
Yeah, but they closed it. Left THIS one open though....Hello everyone,
This post is to inform you that we've felt it necessary to close this thread. The reason being that there is currently a more active thread on the topic here. If you would like to voice your opinion on the matter, please feel free to do so there, as it will be far easier to track everyone's opinion on one thread.
Many thanks!
Here's the thread closing quote^
Seems it might be a good time to open a poll with ZERO in it, and make it he most active thread...to see how deep the hypocrisy runs.2 -
Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭starkerealm wrote: »Never touching those *** things. So, zero. The instant they hit live, I'm gone, and never coming back.
Damn...for real. Are people really this outraged?
Yeah we are, I already unsubbed a good while ago for other reasons, but this sure as hell isn't any incentive to come back.
Zeni didn't ask if we wanted this, and so they apparently plan to just silence the threads that go against it, like they just did. All they are doing now is cash grabbing.Edited by Stovahkiin on August 24, 2016 2:27AMBeware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!3 -
PrinceBoru✭✭✭✭the game doesn't work on xb1.
i'm not purchasing another thing.
ESO is lucky it's still on my drive.It ain't easy being green.0 -
Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭PrinceBoru wrote: »the game doesn't work on xb1.
i'm not purchasing another thing.
ESO is lucky it's still on my drive.
Yep, though I play on PC, ESO does just look like a big chunk of wasted space on my PC.Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!1 -
NobleNerd✭✭✭✭Lucius_Aelius wrote: »No option for zero, poll is invalid.
In fairness to the OP, it isn't an invalid poll, nor is it skewed. It's simply a poll of those who intend to use the lockboxes so that it doesn't apply to those who don't intend to use them. Your option would be covered by a different poll asking if you would ever use lockboxes and if so how many you'd be willing to buy to get what you wanted. This is not that poll although you're free to make your own of course.
In all fairness to the readers, his title does not reflect that intent. He is clearing asking the whole community if they would consider buying before giving up. Maybe he should change his title to reflect he only wants those that have decided to purchase.0 -
Cousin_Idirfa✭✭✭Zero.
And I've been buying crowns on top of my ESO+ since they implemented the crown store. I do it because the cosmetics, mounts and pets add a layer of fun to the game. But I also do it to support this game that I love.
The data-mined mounts look cool, and if they were offered in the crown store like previous mounts, I would buy them, but as they said in the announcement posted on the website today, "Crates will have different themes throughout the year, giving you the chance to obtain new, extremely rare items." So it's obvious that some of these themed mounts, if not all of them, are going to be implemented strictly in the crates, and we won't be given the chance to purchase them outright.
So now instead of paying 4000 crowns for a mount, I can pay for the chance at getting the mount. So the players like myself who are interested in the cosmetics and have been buying the cosmetics and financially supporting the game, are given "the chance" to spend even more money to get the cosmetics we want--excuse me- spend even more money for "the chance" to get the "extremely rare" cosmetics we want.
This crate system is not adding fun to the game.
They're trying to bilk the loyal player base.
Please, ZOS, reconsider.
Even Sheogorath wouldn't try to pull this kind of sleazy nonsense.7 -
Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Cousin_Idirfa wrote: »Even Sheogorath wouldn't try to pull this kind of sleazy nonsense.
At least the sleezy nonsense that sheogorath does pull is entertaining, this however is just frustrating.Edited by Stovahkiin on August 24, 2016 3:47AMBeware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!3
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