Has the cost of equipment crafting writs kept you from doing them?

Cavedog · August 2016

Ok ZOS, do the math. At present, a stack of rubedite averages 16k, and a 5 piece blacksmithing writ takes 50 rubedite, or 4k gold if we are to buy the rubedite. And if we are to farm the raw rubedite and other materials to do writs, that's all there will be time to do. The economy of crafting in ESO is TOTALLY out of whack, and the crafting writs are a financial black hole at present.

IMO, a lot of this issue can be resolved by simply reducing the gold material requirement to 6 pieces of gold temper instead of 8, OR, the surveys awarded from doing the writs need to replace at least 80% of the material it takes to do the writs. The materials that are the most out of proportion are the blacksmithing, woodworking and clothing in that order. The consumable writs seem to be fairly equitable to do.

This is a MAJOR issue with the game ZOS. Please address this issue.

Aliniel · August 2016

No

I have a lot of farmed materials and so I just keep doing them. I am not aware of this high cost of materials however.
Even then, I agree that sometimes doing a writ yields very disappointing rewards. End game players with maxed craft skills have no use of bonus inspiration. We need something better as a reward. Maybe a chance for some token which can increase item quality beyond legendary? The experience we get from doing it is also very low. I hope ZOS rethinks about these writs in near future.

Cavedog · August 2016

Yes

Cavedog wrote: »

Ok ZOS, do the math. At present, a stack of rubedite averages 16k, and a 5 piece blacksmithing writ takes 50 rubedite, or 4k gold if we are to buy the rubedite. And if we are to farm the raw rubedite and other materials to do writs, that's all there will be time to do. The economy of crafting in ESO is TOTALLY out of whack, and the crafting writs are a financial black hole at present.

IMO, a lot of this issue can be resolved by simply reducing the gold material requirement to 6 pieces of gold temper instead of 8, OR, the surveys awarded from doing the writs need to replace at least 80% of the material it takes to do the writs. The materials that are the most out of proportion are the blacksmithing, woodworking and clothing in that order. The consumable writs seem to be fairly equitable to do.

This is a MAJOR issue with the game ZOS. Please address this issue.

This forum desperately needs an edit feature!

..there should be a "I don't do crafting writs" option too.

phreatophile · August 2016

No

No, but I'm getting very close to dropping 5pc Blacksmithing and Medium armor Clothing writs because of the loss they represent.

If they increased the drop rate of tempers and surveys in the quest reward containers by 15% - 20% it would pretty much solve the problem. Devaluing CP150-CP160 mats by changing the 10X requirement for CP160 would work too but I don't think that's a great idea.

Alpheu5 · August 2016

Yes

Not so much that the mats are expensive, but when the max writs were v14, I did the writs as a way to use my excess materials for a chance at getting a gold temper or survey for Upper Craglorn. Since deconstruction only yields 1 material per (I hardly ever farm nodes), coupled with how many materials are needed to craft personal cp 160 gear, I don't see them as worth my time anymore because now I feel like my excess should be saved so I don't spend a fortune for when new sets come out.

Void material was way more disposable. The lowest I'd seen Shadowhide get on MM was 1 gold below merchant price (3 gold each) shortly after the IC release.

Cavedog · August 2016

Yes

I just had another thought on this issue.

I'm wondering, does ZOS view the crafting writs as like gambling or playing the lottery where the house always wins? ....and do they INTEND for the crafting writs to be a black hole for materials and time? ....because that's how it is for blacksmithing, woodworking and clothing writs at this time.

Twilix01 · August 2016

Yes

Alpheu5 wrote: »

Not so much that the mats are expensive, but when the max writs were v14, I did the writs as a way to use my excess materials for a chance at getting a gold temper or survey for Upper Craglorn. Since deconstruction only yields 1 material per (I hardly ever farm nodes), coupled with how many materials are needed to craft personal cp 160 gear, I don't see them as worth my time anymore because now I feel like my excess should be saved so I don't spend a fortune for when new sets come out.

Void material was way more disposable. The lowest I'd seen Shadowhide get on MM was 1 gold below merchant price (3 gold each) shortly after the IC release.

There's also the fact that when void-tier writs were the top writs, you could just steal a bunch of weapons and armor, decon them, and you have the mats for the writ easy. Can't do that for ruby for three reasons; one, they made stolen gear only drop one piece of material; two, ruby tier items only drop one piece of material by default unless they're crafted; and three, you can't even steal ruby tier materials from out in the world. If they changed these three things, it would solve the problem for me.

dsalter · August 2016

Yes

i already have my glass style (i paid *cringe*) and now it's not really a profit at all for me, i have no interest in making ambrosia either since fishing sucks

KingMagaw · August 2016

Yes

I dont do writs anymore because they are worthless. Even negating the materials used, the time spent in doing them, delivering them and going for surveys i spend my time in a more productive manner if gold is the potential gain.

Skyy · August 2016

Yes

Not only is it an annoying time sink, I end up losing gold doing it. Why would anyone bother? The consumables aren't that bad, but I can still get more gold spending that time farming instead of doing writs so again, why bother.

AlienSlof · August 2016

Yes

Yes, it does sometimes. Compare 9 staffs to one fish finger, one glyph, one potion, etc.

NewBlacksmurf · August 2016

Yes

That plays into it but honestly....the whole writs system seems pointless since forever.

I'd rather this be where players request items and gear and we go craft it for CoD that's reserved upon request.

It's not as if there's too many mats in the game so why writs are solo only in an online game....again....the solo-able stuff is by far too much of the game if I have to play online.

Cavedog · August 2016

Yes

The way the rewards for equipment crafting writs work now, it's a wasted time and materials investment to do the writs. The return on the time farming is far greater and guaranteed.

The equipment crafting writs economy is VERY broken as it is now. I won't be doing writs anymore until this changes. It's a completely wasted part of the game as it is now; it just robs the player doing the writs of time, gold and materials...even after you factor in the odd gold temper dropping from doing them.

kargen27 · August 2016

No

What stopped me from doing writs is I can't deliver them to Craglorn any more so no chance of getting really the only thing I was wanting out of the writs. For a couple of weeks I took a point out of two crafters so they could do the writs in Craglorn but that turned out to not be practical really quick.

KingYogi415 · August 2016

you get that it's not about the surveys right.

I have been hearing the change at gold mats has been boosted to 50%

But some people can complain about anything!

Vipstaakki · August 2016

No

You would stop delivering equipment to the people in need of them simply because you do not profit from the as much anymore? That's greedy.

Cavedog · August 2016

Yes

KingYogi415 wrote: »

you get that it's not about the surveys right.

I have been hearing the change at gold mats has been boosted to 50%

But some people can complain about anything!

A troll is a person who is not adding to the discussion in a positive fashion.....just so you know for future reference.

PS4_ZeColmeia · August 2016

No

I have tons of resources and stashed writs. I don't care.

Unsent.Soul · August 2016

Where was OP when this was brought up after SotH released on PC?

Little late champ.

Luigi_Vampa · August 2016

No

I make money from doing the writs. Between surveys and the occasional farming spree, I never run out of mats. Maybe I've just been lucky, but I've been getting gold mats fairly often from writ turn ins.

Farming for the mats doesn't take up all your time. They only thing I need to farm occasionally is ore. I farm for an hour maybe once or twice a week.

Elfbait · August 2016

Yes

Yes. I rarely do equipment crafting writs anymore. They are just not worth the time, now that I've maxed the skill line. Consumables writs are still worth doing for me, even at level 50 in the skill lines.

Travy_2Hype · August 2016

No

For the most part I have an abundance of material for writs. If I happen to pull a Survey from turning in a writ I get more than enough materials back in return.

For the most part the reason why the economy on materials is so expensive is for craftable sets. It takes upwards of 100-150 materials per piece of a v16 crafted set. So when you buy materials, you're paying for the price of a piece of crafted armor or weapon, not for materials to do writs.

I get a lot of my materials to constantly do writs by doing a multitude of dungeons. I typically run both pledges and the daily random vet. The 'useless' drops I get from those dungeons I deconstruct and get a plentiful pile of materials. Since the latest update I've noticed that more 160s drop in vet dungeons for me; whereas, a mix of 150 & 160 drop for me in normals.

Phica_Lovic · August 2016

dsalter wrote: »

i already have my glass style (i paid *cringe*) and now it's not really a profit at all for me, i have no interest in making ambrosia either since fishing sucks

How is this even relevant?

Kalante · August 2016

Yes

Yeah. You have to be a boring player to craft writs. I could deal with it last time but now you have to farm mindlessly and i am not about that life.

bebynnag · August 2016

Yes

Phica_Lovic wrote: »

dsalter wrote: »

i already have my glass style (i paid *cringe*) and now it's not really a profit at all for me, i have no interest in making ambrosia either since fishing sucks

How is this even relevant?

in order to acquire the glass motif, you need to complete writs, you will occasionally receive a glass motif fragment,
once you have 10 fragments you then combine with this thing (forget what its called) which you pay 10,000 in game gold for, which converts the 10 pages into a single page of the motif (occasionally the whole book)
the page you racive is also random, which is why many crafters gave up in the end & bought the missing pages

after my 10th shield, 12th staff, 5th sword & 4th chest, searching for legs, i managed to find a crafter who was happy to trade shield for legs, allowing us both to finally complete out motifs!

Cavedog · August 2016

Yes

So, 2/3'rds of people say the cost of doing the equipment crafting writs prevents them from doing them, and roughly half that say the cost hasn't kept them from doing the writs say they didn't do writs to begin with. So, the vast majority say the rewards from writs do not justify the costs of doing them.

This is the take home message ZOS. Please listen.

And to those of you still doing the equipment crafting writs, know that doing them is just a financial black hole; much like gambling, the house will ALWAYS take more of your money than they give back.

Pchela · August 2016

Yes

I will do alchemy writs but not equipment anymore.

HaldaAinur · August 2016

Sometimes. Luckily, google can tell you where to farm what, but it is a royal pain.

Iluvrien · August 2016

No

No. I pick up mats as I wander around doing other things. I usually have enough to cover each day's writs.

Now, why both setting up a poll for what is obviously a rhetorical question?

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