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4 out of 7 veteran pledges are DLC exclusive?
L2Pissue
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are you kidding me? i must have DLC to play over 50% of the pledges who gives gold key?
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Wayrest sewers
Crypts of hearts
Elden hollow
Banished cells
City of Ash
Fungal grotto
Darkshade caverns
All vet pledges, all non DLC.
Granted, 33% of them are though which sucks, but majority are not.8 -
SwaminoNowlino✭✭✭✭✭L2MathXbox NA : CP 160 StamPlar, MagNB, MagSorc, StamSorc, StamDK, StamNB, Level 10 MagDK & MagPlar, StamWarden, MagWarden
"We want firing off Dark Exchange in the middle of combat to feel awesome." - The Balance Lord Wrobel
- And now it sure does, better learn how to bash folks!
I get by with a little help from logic.21 -
Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well, yeah. You buy DLC to play more content. How is that hard to understand?13 -
Zerok✭✭✭✭Hum no?
Non-DLC:
1. Banished Cells
2. Spindleclutch
3. Fungal Grotto
4. Darkshade Caverns
5. Elden Hollow
6. Wayrest Sewers
7. City of Ash
8. Crypt of Hearts
DLC:
9. White-Gold Tower
10. Imperial City Prison
11. Craddle of Shadows
12. Ruins of Mazzatun
That's 4 out of 12.Zeerok (the sneaky ruffian) - LV50 Bosmer stamblade DPS (AD)
Gontrand de Bourbon (the greedy aristocrat) - LV50 Breton magsorc tank (DC)
Augustus Aquilarios (the imperial claimant) - LV50 Imperial stamDK PvP (EP)
Zeerokk (the AD zealot) - LV50 Altmer magblade PvP (AD)
Lianna Storm (the inferno maiden) - LV50 Dunmer magDK DPS (EP)
Fights-With-Khajiit (the gullible faithful) - LV5 Argonian templar (EP)
Miner'va (the skooma addict) - LV3 Khajiit sorcerer (AD) - chaotic neutral
Siggy Thorvaldsson (the charismatic baroness) - LV50 Nord stamwarden tank (DC)7 -
L2Pissue✭✭✭✭✭I was ok with 2 DLC exclusive dungeons, IC DLC was the most sold DLC since the start of releasing DLCs so it makes sense to include it in the daily pledges
Shadow of the Hist, however, is the least sold (or actually failed ) DLC and has the least sales.. and you include it in the daily pledges,, as gold pledge? its a failed dungeon DLC played by the absolute least number of players, throw its dungeons as silver pledges0 -
L2Pissue✭✭✭✭✭Hum no?
Non-DLC:
1. Banished Cells
2. Spindleclutch
3. Fungal Grotto
4. Darkshade Caverns
5. Elden Hollow
6. Wayrest Sewers
7. City of Ash
8. Crypt of Hearts
DLC:
9. White-Gold Tower
10. Imperial City Prison
11. Craddle of Shadows
12. Ruins of Mazzatun
That's 4 out of 12.
there are 12 pledges, but the "pledge wheel" doesnt do ALL non-DLC gold pledges at a time.
it does like:
4 DLC dungeons
3 non-DLC dungeons(changing each time)
and repeat1 -
Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I was ok with 2 DLC exclusive dungeons, IC DLC was the most sold DLC since the start of releasing DLCs so it makes sense to include it in the daily pledges
Shadow of the Hist, however, is the least sold (or actually failed ) DLC and has the least sales.. and you include it in the daily pledges,, as gold pledge? its a failed dungeon DLC played by the absolute least number of players, throw its dungeons as silver pledges
You are genuinely mad/upset that you can't do a gold pledge for a couple of days? I'd recommend taking a step outside, or if that's not possible, find something else to do in the game. Or buy the DLC.3 -
SwaminoNowlino✭✭✭✭✭The 2017 model trucks are a failure! They have barely sold any!
Oh wait... They've only been out a month...
FAILURE!
4/12=75%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Xbox NA : CP 160 StamPlar, MagNB, MagSorc, StamSorc, StamDK, StamNB, Level 10 MagDK & MagPlar, StamWarden, MagWarden
"We want firing off Dark Exchange in the middle of combat to feel awesome." - The Balance Lord Wrobel
- And now it sure does, better learn how to bash folks!
I get by with a little help from logic.5 -
Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Hum no?
Non-DLC:
1. Banished Cells
2. Spindleclutch
3. Fungal Grotto
4. Darkshade Caverns
5. Elden Hollow
6. Wayrest Sewers
7. City of Ash
8. Crypt of Hearts
DLC:
9. White-Gold Tower
10. Imperial City Prison
11. Craddle of Shadows
12. Ruins of Mazzatun
That's 4 out of 12.
there are 12 pledges, but the "pledge wheel" doesnt do ALL non-DLC gold pledges at a time.
it does like:
4 DLC dungeons
3 non-DLC dungeons(changing each time)
and repeat
Hmm I wonder why. Could it be to get more people to buy the DLC? Because ZOS is a business who need to pay their devs, artists etc?4 -
L2Pissue✭✭✭✭✭SwaminoNowlino wrote: »The 2017 model trucks are a failure! They have barely sold any!
Oh wait... They've only been out a month...
FAILURE!
4/12=75%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if IC DLC sold millions in its first couple weeks and SotH did not reach 10% of its sales yet, then its a fail DLC
first weeks is where you have the most/least sales.
have a nice day2 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭[snip]IC DLC was the most sold DLC since the start of releasing DLCs[snip]
[snip]Shadow of the Hist, however, is the least sold (or actually failed ) DLC [snip]
Cite your sources.
Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche6 -
xilfxlegion✭✭✭✭✭I was ok with 2 DLC exclusive dungeons, IC DLC was the most sold DLC since the start of releasing DLCs so it makes sense to include it in the daily pledges
Shadow of the Hist, however, is the least sold (or actually failed ) DLC and has the least sales.. and you include it in the daily pledges,, as gold pledge? its a failed dungeon DLC played by the absolute least number of players, throw its dungeons as silver pledges
it has been out for a couple of days. how in the world is it failed ?
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L2Pissue✭✭✭✭✭
go play the game daily like i do
when its IC DLC pledges, most players do them
when its SotH DLC pledges, most players are doing random veteran/normal
dont forget to water your flowers0 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I was ok with 2 DLC exclusive dungeons, IC DLC was the most sold DLC since the start of releasing DLCs so it makes sense to include it in the daily pledges
Shadow of the Hist, however, is the least sold (or actually failed ) DLC and has the least sales.. and you include it in the daily pledges,, as gold pledge? its a failed dungeon DLC played by the absolute least number of players, throw its dungeons as silver pledges
Hmm, those sales numbers are a bit smelly. Perhaps because you pulled them out of your arse?
As someone who plays group PvE, SotH is the best DLC since IC with more substance and replayability than that solo questing nonsense of Dark Brotherhood. Are there more solo questers than dungeon delvers? Probably, so it wouldn't surprise me if it did sell less than those inane solo quester DLCs. But for its intended audience, it's been very well-received by everyone I know.
If you really care about 4-man group content, then this is the first new 4-man content we've had in almost a year and it's refreshing to finally have something fun and challenging to bite into instead of the same tired old dungeons. If you don't really care for group content, then why does any of this even matter to you? Just skip the vet pledges on those days.Edited by code65536 on August 18, 2016 3:07PMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorPC/Console Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Group Buff PanelsOther Add-Ons: Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information4 -
Wifeaggro13✭✭✭✭✭
✭are you kidding me? i must have DLC to play over 50% of the pledges who gives gold key?
Umm have you played a MMO before. You realize its called emergent gaming. they add content we buy it they have money to stay profitable and create more. Do you go to work one day and they pay you the rest of your life?1 -
L2Pissue✭✭✭✭✭I was ok with 2 DLC exclusive dungeons, IC DLC was the most sold DLC since the start of releasing DLCs so it makes sense to include it in the daily pledges
Shadow of the Hist, however, is the least sold (or actually failed ) DLC and has the least sales.. and you include it in the daily pledges,, as gold pledge? its a failed dungeon DLC played by the absolute least number of players, throw its dungeons as silver pledges
Hmm, those sales numbers are a bit smelly. Perhaps because you pulled them out of your arse?
As someone who plays group PvE, SotH is the best DLC since IC, certainly much better than that solo questing nonsense in Dark Brotherhood. Are there more solo questers than dungeon delvers? Probably, so it wouldn't surprise me if it did sell less than those inane solo quester DLCs. But for its intended audience, it's been very well-received by everyone I know.
If you really care about 4-man group content, then this is the first new 4-man content we've had in almost a year and it's refreshing to finally have something fun and challenging to bite into instead of the same tired old dungeons. If you don't really care for group content, then why does any of this even matter to you? Just skip the vet pledges on those days.
you are from the 1% who dont play with humans outside their guild
and no. i dont feel like skipping 4 days out of 7 each week to make you happy0 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
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go play the game daily like i do
when its IC DLC pledges, most players do them
when its SotH DLC pledges, most players are doing random veteran/normal
dont forget to water your flowers
So your "source" is a first-person, biased anecdote? Seems legit. Wait...no it doesn't.
I play, and pledge, every day. I agree that introducing so many daily pledges that are behind a paywall is a lousy thing to do, but presenting your imagination as fact is not a good way to make your case.
Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche3 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
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What's that supposed to mean? That the dungeons are too hard for PUGs who don't communicate or work together as a team? That's why ZOS gave you a Normal mode. Again, it seems very odd for someone who doesn't like real group content to care so much about doing pledges. And, well, perhaps your username is apropos.you are from the 1% who dont play with humans outside their guild
How many times must people correct your counting ability in this thread? You're not exactly helping your point here. L2CountIssue.i dont feel like skipping 4 days out of 7 each week to make you happy
Edited by code65536 on August 18, 2016 3:18PMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorPC/Console Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Group Buff PanelsOther Add-Ons: Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information2 -
L2Pissue✭✭✭✭✭
go play the game daily like i do
when its IC DLC pledges, most players do them
when its SotH DLC pledges, most players are doing random veteran/normal
dont forget to water your flowers
So your "source" is a first-person, biased anecdote? Seems legit. Wait...no it doesn't.
I play, and pledge, every day. I agree that introducing so many daily pledges that are behind a paywall is a lousy thing to do, but presenting your imagination as fact is not a good way to make your case.
deny my claim that Imperial City DLC is the most sold and shadow of the hist is least sold then
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Either buy dlc or don't
Simple, stop crying what will not being able to 4 out of the 12 pledges do?
Big wow you lose out on a gold key every so often.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I can see why this would annoy people. Being a sub for now it doesnt affect me. But it would certainly annoy me that they dont rotate all the dungeons equally.0 -
Transairion✭✭✭✭✭How many times must people correct your counting ability in this thread? You're not exactly helping your point here. L2CountIssue.
Their math isn't "wrong", though they are suggesting something I don't think is true.
They are saying that every week, there are 7 Daily Veteran Pledges to run and that 4 of those will always be the 4 DLC dungeons, with the other 3 days being randomly picked from the other non-DLC options. I don't think this is true, but the DLC (and Pledge order reshuffle) has only been out for like a fortnight.
I was under the impression, just as before Shadow of the Hist DLC, the Vet Dungeon Pledges have a set order they cycle through and the new Dungeons were just added into the mix: the DLC's release also saw the previous order shuffled into a new order. Since there's 12 Vet Dungeons now, it takes 12 days to complete a cycle.
So I get what they're trying to say, but I don't think that's correct. It would be obscenely unfair if, no matter what every week you would always get ICP/WGT/ROM/COS included for that week since then yes non-DLC holders would only get 3 days of Gold Pledges to actually run per week.2 -
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go play the game daily like i do
when its IC DLC pledges, most players do them
when its SotH DLC pledges, most players are doing random veteran/normal
dont forget to water your flowers
I Pledge every day on at least 4 of my 12 toons, any more and I feel I'm cutting too much into PvP time. Regardless, I don't notice this trend.
Maybe people are timid / afraid of the new dungeons?
IDK
As for IC outselling SotH, this isn't as simple as you're making it sound.Edited by nine9six on August 18, 2016 3:28PMWake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...0 -
cjthibs✭✭✭✭✭
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go play the game daily like i do
when its IC DLC pledges, most players do them
when its SotH DLC pledges, most players are doing random veteran/normal
dont forget to water your flowers
You have some sort of monitoring tool that allows you to see what content is being played by ALL players?
Please, do share.1 -
L2Pissue✭✭✭✭✭
go play the game daily like i do
when its IC DLC pledges, most players do them
when its SotH DLC pledges, most players are doing random veteran/normal
dont forget to water your flowers
You have some sort of monitoring tool that allows you to see what content is being played by ALL players?
Please, do share.
its called common sense1 -
cjthibs✭✭✭✭✭
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go play the game daily like i do
when its IC DLC pledges, most players do them
when its SotH DLC pledges, most players are doing random veteran/normal
dont forget to water your flowers
You have some sort of monitoring tool that allows you to see what content is being played by ALL players?
Please, do share.
its called common sense
Nope. It's called anecdotal evidence. Or just making s*#t up, like you did with the math above.7 -
AGrz5585✭✭✭I was ok with 2 DLC exclusive dungeons, IC DLC was the most sold DLC since the start of releasing DLCs so it makes sense to include it in the daily pledges
Shadow of the Hist, however, is the least sold (or actually failed ) DLC and has the least sales.. and you include it in the daily pledges,, as gold pledge? its a failed dungeon DLC played by the absolute least number of players, throw its dungeons as silver pledges
I learned something new today. I did not know you worked for ZoS and had access to these numbers.
Oh wait... It's pure speculation and your only proof is "I'm in game and blah blah blah"4 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
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go play the game daily like i do
when its IC DLC pledges, most players do them
when its SotH DLC pledges, most players are doing random veteran/normal
dont forget to water your flowers
You have some sort of monitoring tool that allows you to see what content is being played by ALL players?
Please, do share.
its called common sense
The only reason this game is still going along and releasing stuff is because people buy dlc's.
I have no problem with people not buying dlc's, but stop complaining about them? You don't buy them and then complain that you can't access them? What is with that logic.
I can't believe this is actually a thread.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...5
