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This set hits to high and procs way to often. Do you think it needs to go?
Edited by Dk_needs_a_buff on August 17, 2016 4:12PM

valdereth set is too overpowered 240 votes

yes it's way to strong and procs to often. it needs to go
28% 69 votes
no it should stay
63% 152 votes
it should stay only because I have it
7% 19 votes
  • Nifty2g
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    20k proc in a dps set up, every 10 seconds, that equals out to a 2,000 Damage over Time
    no it should stay
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  • Minalan
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    It's a gankblade' sweet dream, therefore it stays.
  • Darlon
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    Valdereth ?
  • Glory
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    20k proc in a dps set up, every 10 seconds, that equals out to a 2,000 Damage over Time
    no it should stay

    Yeah the numbers add up fine. It is brutal though to be hit by a viper/velidreth proc all at the same time in PvP though.
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  • Reorx_Holybeard
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    I assume he means Velidreth...

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  • Sugaroverdose
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    20k proc in a dps set up, every 10 seconds, that equals out to a 2,000 Damage over Time
    no it should stay
    DPS is PVE thing, in pvp burst much more matters and this set have it too much.
  • SwaminoNowlino
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    Sugaroverdose wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    20k proc in a dps set up, every 10 seconds, that equals out to a 2,000 Damage over Time
    no it should stay
    DPS is PVE thing, in pvp burst much more matters and this set have it too much.

    Nope. Damage is halved in PVP and the set is actually bugged. Any terrain differences causes the proc to completely miss. Set is currently only viable in PVE, hopefully it gets fixed though.
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  • Volrion
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    Buff Malubeth!
  • Transairion
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    I'm more concerned/confused about why such a set has a huge 20% proc rate, while stuff like Bodgan and Maw of the Infernal have 6%/5% proc rates respectively.

    As far as ESO is concerned, 20% proc chance is massive.
  • elium85
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    I'm assuming because of it's extremely long ICD and downtime between procs?
  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    In PvE selfbuffed the set averages around 2.4k dps and can crit for upwards of 32k with warhorn. It's really nice, don't touch my new toy!
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  • Edziu
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    on pve ok....but on pvp its some to much damage burst + disease dmg

    again this thing, on pve good but when it got nerfed only for pvp it will be then some useless in pve

    next thing like with skills, ok on pve, to op pvp ehh, what ZOS is doing....now time to make sets normal working on pve and with maybe halfed working on pvp areas? xD
  • elium85
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    Yeah, well that's the crux of the balance debate right? PvP and PvE balance are often divergent.
  • Savos_Saren
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    It's basically the stamina version of Valkyn Skoria.

    Yes, Valkyn only procs off DoTs- but Valkyn also does AOE damage. (It's even moreso buffed for Dunmer DKs) You can't dodge Valkyn but you CAN dodge Velidreth.

    I consider Velidreth a welcomed set for stam builds. (I don't have it- but I'm damn sure going to try to get it!) ;)
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  • Sugaroverdose
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    SwaminoNowlino wrote: »
    Sugaroverdose wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    20k proc in a dps set up, every 10 seconds, that equals out to a 2,000 Damage over Time
    no it should stay
    DPS is PVE thing, in pvp burst much more matters and this set have it too much.

    Nope. Damage is halved in PVP and the set is actually bugged. Any terrain differences causes the proc to completely miss. Set is currently only viable in PVE, hopefully it gets fixed though.
    Meh. It perfectly do it's OP job in mele range, which is 99.999% of stamina builds.
    jaburns wrote: »
    It's basically the stamina version of Valkyn Skoria.

    Yes, Valkyn only procs off DoTs- but Valkyn also does AOE damage. (It's even moreso buffed for Dunmer DKs) You can't dodge Valkyn but you CAN dodge Velidreth.

    I consider Velidreth a welcomed set for stam builds. (I don't have it- but I'm damn sure going to try to get it!) ;)
    Dodge proc of set which instantly procs on successful attack and instantly blows up because you was attacked from less than 1m? Teach me, sensei.
    Edited by Sugaroverdose on August 17, 2016 8:23PM
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    SourishWhale wrote: »
    Buff Malubeth!

    Lol. If there ever was a reason to wear Malubeth, this is it.
  • Danksta
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    I think I'd prefer asking for a nerf over asking for it to be wiped from the game.... :confused:
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    SwaminoNowlino wrote: »
    Sugaroverdose wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    20k proc in a dps set up, every 10 seconds, that equals out to a 2,000 Damage over Time
    no it should stay
    DPS is PVE thing, in pvp burst much more matters and this set have it too much.

    Nope. Damage is halved in PVP and the set is actually bugged. Any terrain differences causes the proc to completely miss. Set is currently only viable in PVE, hopefully it gets fixed though.

    Guess you haven´t met someone wearing this set in pvp yet. I have hit people for 30k+ in 1 sec with this set and viper lol
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  • Alpheu5
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    Transairion wrote: »
    I'm more concerned/confused about why such a set has a huge 20% proc rate, while stuff like Bodgan and Maw of the Infernal have 6%/5% proc rates respectively.

    As far as ESO is concerned, 20% proc chance is massive.

    Bogdan has a woofy 2% proc chance. Malubeth and Skoria are both 6% though. 20% is still definitely massive.
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    Judas Helviaryn wrote: »
    Don't incorporate bugs into your builds, and you won't have [an] issue.
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    Xeven wrote: »
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  • Averya_Teira
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    Can't you .... Avoid the spores ?
  • Alpheu5
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    Xeven wrote: »
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    The Nerien'eth description leaves out the part that says that DoT damage doesn't even count.
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    Judas Helviaryn wrote: »
    Don't incorporate bugs into your builds, and you won't have [an] issue.
  • Xeven
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    Averya_Teira wrote: »
    Can't you .... Avoid the spores ?

    At point blank range? Nope.
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    Xeven wrote: »
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    I love how the cool down part isn't highlighted.
  • Cronopoly
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    I've seen several people get gibbed today from this set, obviously in conjunction with other ingame sets.

    Stamina Nightblades are back baby! oh wait... ;):*

    I'm a 12 Step respeccing MagSorc junkie who has basically given up on competitive play in PVP so I really don't care at this point. Make it all OP Zos go for it..
    Edited by Cronopoly on August 17, 2016 10:52PM
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  • NoMoreChillies
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    ZOS_GregoryV wrote: »
    Greetings all,

    While we are glad to see members making use of the Forums, we must remind everyone that baiting and flaming other members are both violations of the Community Rules. We would like to ask that all posts be kept civil and constructive. Thank you for your understanding.

    why even bother posting
    you just give false hope that ZOS actually read this
    Insulting people on the internet is cowardly.
  • UltimaJoe777
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    NoMoreChillies wrote: »
    ZOS_GregoryV wrote: »
    Greetings all,

    While we are glad to see members making use of the Forums, we must remind everyone that baiting and flaming other members are both violations of the Community Rules. We would like to ask that all posts be kept civil and constructive. Thank you for your understanding.

    why even bother posting
    you just give false hope that ZOS actually read this

    Because people have a hard time being civil, of course. Be civil and mods won't have to post :)
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  • OGLezard
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    Xeven wrote: »
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    zos hates magicka users, isnt it obvious
  • OGLezard
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    Cronopoly wrote: »
    I've seen several people get gibbed today from this set, obviously in conjunction with other ingame sets.

    Stamina Nightblades are back baby! oh wait... ;):*

    I'm a 12 Step respeccing MagSorc junkie who has basically given up on competitive play in PVP so I really don't care at this point. Make it all OP Zos go for it..

    100% this, i love my sorc, been playing him exclusively since beta. Now he is just there for when i want to run a dungeon with him (very rare).

    If you dont play meta builds or clone derpaderp streamers, then being competitive in pvp is not gonna happen.
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