Nightblades should be able to...

davey1107 · August 2016

...gap close up to the Mage guard and/or second level in resources. Not keeps, but just the resources. I know, I know...it was a glitch, it was an exploit, we were all supposed to inherently know this and we are all bad human beings for thinking it was part of the game. How dare we think that the magical assassin leap through space time was vertical as well as horizontal...oh the shame.

But it was sort of fun having NBs fly up there and wreak havoc, and it was kinda fun wreaking the havoc. It felt like it made sense in the context of the class and ability.

But of course, ZOS is right, as always - it makes no sense to allow the squishy stealth assassin up there, what makes effing sense is allowing the bulky derpy dragonknights who take twenty people to kill. Ugh.

Bakven · August 2016

*waits patiently for the nerf nightblades posts*

JDar · August 2016

Some good points raised here! If an ability works two dimensionally, why shouldn't it be three dimensional? Especially when the PvP component of the game largely takes place in a low-lying area with many altitude changes?

Did they think about this when they designed the game? Why are magicka spells 2D instead of 3D?

Vaoh · August 2016

I'd rather they work on fixing the "exploit" than make it so it's both easier to do and as widely accessible as possible.

dodgehopper_ESO · August 2016

By this logic the class that has wings ought to be able to flappy fly up there, and the class whose power comes straight from the Sun aka Magnus aka the guy who designed Nirn should be able to aedric leap their way up there. How about the class that can teleport in lightning bolts? In all seriousness I'm not sure why you think Nightblades should be unique in this regard.

Rohamad_Ali · August 2016

Grappling hooks are still in a Datamined thread somewhere . Who knows .

Publius_Scipio · August 2016

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Grappling hooks are still in a Datamined thread somewhere . Who knows .

You serious or blowing smoke up my imperial [snippppppp]?

soll · August 2016

NB not having enough fun with cloack and ambushes everyone in Cyro? You need even more? No thanks, we have enough from NB in pvp

davey1107 · August 2016

@dodgehopper_ESO The main reason I suggested it for NBs is because they're squishy, so they can't typically jump into a group and go crazy. And also because it seems like an assassin sort of thing to do.

Maybe it's because pvp has been so stagnant that it's a bit boring, but honestly during the glitch the "oh my god, there's a Nightblade up here" was kinda fun.

Kalante · August 2016

All classes should have the ability to do it because in all honesty tower farming is freaking *** and it would be really fun to ruin it.

KenaPKK · August 2016

I would love it if gap closers all went up walls and chains pulled people down. I'd actually participate in sieges again.

Doesn't make it practical or balanced though.

Ankael07 · August 2016

Of course its fun to teleport up to a wall and ''wreak havoc'' on unsuspecting players. Until someone does the same to you when youre sieging and you loose a coldfire ballista.

Lucky28 · August 2016

Ankael07 wrote: »

Of course its fun to teleport up to a wall and ''wreak havoc'' on unsuspecting players. Until someone does the same to you when youre sieging and you loose a coldfire ballista.

It adds Flair either way. i said it another thread but it make sieging and defending a bit more engaging.

Minalan · August 2016

I'd be okay with it, if they do something about NB's one shotting with viper/velidreth. Or incap strike being so cheap and high damage. Or that you just die constantly with one or two button presses (snipe snipe snipe snipe inject...). The class has serious design issues right now: Too much front loaded damage and absolutely no defense.

A surprise attack/ambush should be a little bit of a duel, and right now it isn't unless you play Azuras.

leepalmer95 · August 2016

Ankael07 wrote: »

Of course its fun to teleport up to a wall and ''wreak havoc'' on unsuspecting players. Until someone does the same to you when youre sieging and you loose a coldfire ballista.

You could just get off your siege and keep buff's up.

Maybe people just want to be able to set up siege then spam it for 15 mins straight.

Apherius · August 2016

Hey man , i want a spaceship for go on the fort and take flag alone with my alien friend . OH and for my sorcerer ! i want to tp at the vertical !

seriously man ... enought NB on PVP . if they add this , we will have bus of NB who don't care to siege the fort ! it will destroy the PVP . Maybe DK can but just at some fort and when they do this they are report .

Lucky28 · August 2016

Apherius wrote: »

Hey man , i want a spaceship for go on the fort and take flag alone with my alien friend . OH and for my sorcerer ! i want to tp at the vertical !

seriously man ... enought NB on PVP . if they add this , we will have bus of NB who don't care to siege the fort ! it will destroy the PVP . Maybe DK can but just at some fort and when they do this they are report .

There is no need to add it. it's already in the game. people are just saying it shouldn't be considered an exploit. and the only people who are really reported are streamers. i don't think the majority of players actually care. i mean the amount of people on all factions i see gap closing into keeps on a daily basis..... if they where all banned Cyrodiil would consist of 15 players across all factions.

Minno · August 2016

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Grappling hooks are still in a Datamined thread somewhere . Who knows .

You serious or blowing smoke up my imperial [snippppppp]?

I read via the forums this info is correct. But never checked the source.

EnOeZ · August 2016

davey1107 wrote: »

@dodgehopper_ESO The main reason I suggested it for NBs is because they're squishy, so they can't typically jump into a group and go crazy. And also because it seems like an assassin sort of thing to do.

Maybe it's because pvp has been so stagnant that it's a bit boring, but honestly during the glitch the "oh my god, there's a Nightblade up here" was kinda fun.

Are you really asking for a NB buff ???!!!

Kartalin · August 2016

davey1107 wrote: »

@dodgehopper_ESO The main reason I suggested it for NBs is because they're squishy

You realize you aren't forced to spec out your nightblade that way, you do have options.

dodgehopper_ESO · August 2016

EnOeZ wrote: »

davey1107 wrote: »

@dodgehopper_ESO The main reason I suggested it for NBs is because they're squishy, so they can't typically jump into a group and go crazy. And also because it seems like an assassin sort of thing to do.

Maybe it's because pvp has been so stagnant that it's a bit boring, but honestly during the glitch the "oh my god, there's a Nightblade up here" was kinda fun.

Are you really asking for a NB buff ???!!!

Kartalin wrote: »

davey1107 wrote: »

@dodgehopper_ESO The main reason I suggested it for NBs is because they're squishy

You realize you aren't forced to spec out your nightblade that way, you do have options.

You guys are completely misquoting my original statement, utilizing a comment upon what I said. This is what I said, you guys are replying to my response to the OP, @davey1107

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

By this logic the class that has wings ought to be able to flappy fly up there, and the class whose power comes straight from the Sun aka Magnus aka the guy who designed Nirn should be able to aedric leap their way up there. How about the class that can teleport in lightning bolts? In all seriousness I'm not sure why you think Nightblades should be unique in this regard.

I personally think it would make a lot more sense that you can't leap up the keep walls. Make them visibly taller if that helps. I do however think Siege Ladders could be fun, and might give good reason for oils, or simply to push people off of ladders (thereby taking fall damage). @Kartalin @EnOeZ

Kartalin · August 2016

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

EnOeZ wrote: »

davey1107 wrote: »

@dodgehopper_ESO The main reason I suggested it for NBs is because they're squishy, so they can't typically jump into a group and go crazy. And also because it seems like an assassin sort of thing to do.

Maybe it's because pvp has been so stagnant that it's a bit boring, but honestly during the glitch the "oh my god, there's a Nightblade up here" was kinda fun.

Are you really asking for a NB buff ???!!!

Kartalin wrote: »

davey1107 wrote: »

@dodgehopper_ESO The main reason I suggested it for NBs is because they're squishy

You realize you aren't forced to spec out your nightblade that way, you do have options.

You guys are completely misquoting my original statement, utilizing a comment upon what I said. This is what I said, you guys are replying to my response to the OP, @davey1107

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

By this logic the class that has wings ought to be able to flappy fly up there, and the class whose power comes straight from the Sun aka Magnus aka the guy who designed Nirn should be able to aedric leap their way up there. How about the class that can teleport in lightning bolts? In all seriousness I'm not sure why you think Nightblades should be unique in this regard.

I personally think it would make a lot more sense that you can't leap up the keep walls. Make them visibly taller if that helps. I do however think Siege Ladders could be fun, and might give good reason for oils, or simply to push people off of ladders (thereby taking fall damage). @Kartalin @EnOeZ

I was responding to OP, not to you. I had already hit agree on your post Dodge, sorry it wasn't clear.

dodgehopper_ESO · August 2016

Kartalin wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

EnOeZ wrote: »

davey1107 wrote: »

@dodgehopper_ESO The main reason I suggested it for NBs is because they're squishy, so they can't typically jump into a group and go crazy. And also because it seems like an assassin sort of thing to do.

Maybe it's because pvp has been so stagnant that it's a bit boring, but honestly during the glitch the "oh my god, there's a Nightblade up here" was kinda fun.

Are you really asking for a NB buff ???!!!

Kartalin wrote: »

davey1107 wrote: »

@dodgehopper_ESO The main reason I suggested it for NBs is because they're squishy

You realize you aren't forced to spec out your nightblade that way, you do have options.

You guys are completely misquoting my original statement, utilizing a comment upon what I said. This is what I said, you guys are replying to my response to the OP, @davey1107

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

By this logic the class that has wings ought to be able to flappy fly up there, and the class whose power comes straight from the Sun aka Magnus aka the guy who designed Nirn should be able to aedric leap their way up there. How about the class that can teleport in lightning bolts? In all seriousness I'm not sure why you think Nightblades should be unique in this regard.

I personally think it would make a lot more sense that you can't leap up the keep walls. Make them visibly taller if that helps. I do however think Siege Ladders could be fun, and might give good reason for oils, or simply to push people off of ladders (thereby taking fall damage). @Kartalin @EnOeZ

I was responding to OP, not to you. I had already hit agree on your post Dodge, sorry it wasn't clear.

That's the problem sometimes with quote of a quote.

Bakven · August 2016

Dragonknight's leap and Nightblade's teleport strike make sense to be able to gap close up a wall, tower, outpost, w/e. But it wouldn't make things balanced. Honestly I'd rather them balance the classes and fix the stam meta before they do anything else. DKs and NBs running viper and the new poison helm set is just ridiculous right now.

zuto40 · August 2016

i like how this turned into a nb's are op thread, when stam dk>stamblade magplar>mageblade

Bromburak · August 2016

We don't need gap closers to reach guards or anything else in ESO, what we need are abilities that make sense for certain PvP objectives and tasks. Something like climbing keeps, towers and houses would have fit perfectly into thieves guild or Dark Brother hood patch.

There have been so many good suggestions by players to add more tactical skills and less combat to PvP objectives.
However as far I remember Brian likes many ideas but the Todo list is packed with other stuff.