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Is cursing important for your communication, yes or no?
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Defilted✭✭✭✭✭
✭The only thing I have to say is [snip] might be the most versatile word in the American English language. It is also fun to say.
However in a professional environment there is little place for it and should be reserved for special occasions.
[edited for profanity bypass]Edited by ZOS_Icy on December 7, 2025 7:23PMXBOX NA
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ScottK1994✭✭✭
Fired? Since when did we work for this game? We don't we play it. There is no social rule that says "no swearing"GreenhaloX wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »
I really don't understand the point. This is a community of vastly different people with different languages and forms of communication. Prejudice about language isn't the way to go
It's not about prejudice, man. Profanity/cursing is not part of any official language. It's about what are widely accepted among the masses or socially acceptable. It is not widely acceptable to use profanity or curse in public or in social media. Look at the media or facebook.. so many people have been dismissed/fired and disciplined for using profaned languages, in public speaking and posts. I'm sure ZOS has a rule/policy to restrict the usage of such profanity or offensive language for this forum and in-game voice chats. If cursing is your thing, fine.. just remember you still have to watch what you say among groups of other people in ESO, public or otherwise. Not everybody will be so pleasing.0 -
AnviOfVai✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, if I ever swear it normally slips out by accident, however frustration can be a main part of the reason i swear hahaha"I appear at my lord's behest, or perhaps I was always here, and you merely lacked the ability to see me."
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ScottK1994✭✭✭Well I'd say the poll has been even around the whole time. 33% yes and 66% no. I guess thats the view.
I just hope that when console text chat comes out it isn't completely child like and I'm unable to say things like [snip]
[edited for profanity bypass]Edited by ZOS_Icy on December 7, 2025 7:24PM0 -
waterfairy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Where I'm from cursing was part of everyday vocabulary so it took me until recent years to stop using the [snip] word as "the"
Curse words are offensive words so in this sensitive day and age I'm surprised that there's not more censored words. [snip]
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Hellbender27✭✭ScottK1994 wrote: »This isn't really about words being censored, it's how they're censored.
We have technologically evolved in to the age of communication, yet our social evolution still requires that 90% of how we communicate is in body language.
The vast majority of what people say online gets misunderstood. Also cursing is a sign of passion and personal honesty, while not necessarily being an insult. When someone is in descriptive mode and then there is lost words like "***", that's brings our understanding below 10%
All the best insults dont have a single curse word also, and a curse word itself isn't offensive and if someone was offended by it when not an insult, it's called being overly privileged?
And also, since the forums won't be uncensored of course, do you think censored words should atleast show the amount of censored letters so that we can at least guess what they said?
As a Sailor, and a New Yorker. I support this post lol. Everything seems more intense when I curse up a storm about it good or bad excited or angry it just happens .....habit I can never break.1 -
ScottK1994✭✭✭But now there's a new issue I have. An important word is censored. *** ; are we pretending it doesn't happen? If we can't discuss *** then how will it stop?
https://tse2.explicit.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Mf8b10431fede0a2ff9103c30b93ea9fco0&w=167&h=111&c=7&qlt=70&p=0&dpr=3&pid=1.1Edited by ZOS_PeterT on August 2, 2016 3:43PM0 -
jedtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭english has well over a million words - if you can't get your point across emphatically enough without swearing you aren't trying....1 -
ScottK1994✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »english has well over a million words - if you can't get your point across emphatically enough without swearing you aren't trying....
That's not how it works at all. You use the words the audience understands. If I was on Facebook I wouldn't even use words like audience because most people are really basic at reading and understanding.Edited by ScottK1994 on August 2, 2016 1:15PM0 -
Iluvrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »And you're stereotyping vast nations and languages by saying cursing is not a part of it. Yes in lots of languages cursing is normal. For example Japanese
Really? In Japanese? I seriously doubt that...
... and I am saying that I doubt it as someone who has studied the language, is working through the series of JLPT exams, married a Japanese woman, travelled extensively in the country itself and now actually live and work here.... while using the language to communicate on a daily basis.
Aye so you should know that one of the most polite nations in the planet use swearing in the most casual way possible?
In my experience? No.
Then you've obviously been cursing and not realising
Since I still have my job as a high-school teacher and university lecturer? No, I don't think I have been.
But swearing is allowed in children's cartoons in Japan?.lol are you even in Japan?
Wait... you are basing your assertion that Japanese people swear all the time on the contents of children's cartoons? In a language that is so extraordinarily contextual that a single word can supply enough meaning for a sentence? Where the English language subtitles produced by various entities were once a by-word for linguistic failure?
And yes, I do. Fukuyama city. Hiroshima prefecture. Japan. For the last 2 years.
And exactly though? English without elitist rules is also extremely contextual
Being polite and/or considerate of others isn't elitist.0 -
ScottK1994✭✭✭ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »And you're stereotyping vast nations and languages by saying cursing is not a part of it. Yes in lots of languages cursing is normal. For example Japanese
Really? In Japanese? I seriously doubt that...
... and I am saying that I doubt it as someone who has studied the language, is working through the series of JLPT exams, married a Japanese woman, travelled extensively in the country itself and now actually live and work here.... while using the language to communicate on a daily basis.
Aye so you should know that one of the most polite nations in the planet use swearing in the most casual way possible?
In my experience? No.
Then you've obviously been cursing and not realising
Since I still have my job as a high-school teacher and university lecturer? No, I don't think I have been.
But swearing is allowed in children's cartoons in Japan?.lol are you even in Japan?
Wait... you are basing your assertion that Japanese people swear all the time on the contents of children's cartoons? In a language that is so extraordinarily contextual that a single word can supply enough meaning for a sentence? Where the English language subtitles produced by various entities were once a by-word for linguistic failure?
And yes, I do. Fukuyama city. Hiroshima prefecture. Japan. For the last 2 years.
And exactly though? English without elitist rules is also extremely contextual
Being polite and/or considerate of others isn't elitist.
Then what about all those Latin words for scientific and mathematical terms? How is that not elitist
English is the most elitist language I'm aware ofEdited by ScottK1994 on August 2, 2016 1:16PM0 -
AugustoCP✭✭✭When you "forbid" certain words, or just simply say they are rude, you are imposing YOUR culture upon others. Maybe it is an offensive word for you, but censoring others to please you is exactly that, censorship. There is no such thing as an universal list of offensive words. If I, for absolutely no reason at all, decided that I find the words "Because", "Horse" and "Cloth" offensive, I'd have just as much basis to do so as the people who do it to "***", "***" or "***". Imposing upon others your personal list of words is having prejudice towards other people's cultures while favoring your own; bigotry and ethnocentrism, in other words.
The clearest case of this is a certain person in this thread who said "keep it inside your house". Meaning, only MY culture os socially acceptable, you have to conform to it. Doesn't that sound familiar? "I don't mind f4gs, but they can't just act like that in public." I know how real this is, I hear it every other day.
There's no such thing as an universal behavior standard. As long as you're not hurting anyone, anything is valid. If you don't like my cursing, ignore it. It's not my duty to censor myself to please you, and I WILL keep saying 4ss, sh7t, 6unt and t1t, and anyone who doesn't like it can go foock themselves with a cactusEdited by AugustoCP on August 2, 2016 1:24PM2 -
NordSwordnBoard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭There is a difference between being on your own private property, being on public property, and being in an internet forum that carry different social contracts with what speech you use. One of these has a "terms of use" very different than the others.Fear is the Mindkiller0 -
vamp_emily✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Seriously, why the [ blank ] does anyone care that I curse? In game they try and tell me what skills I should use, and if I push the same button twice , they call me a [ blank ]ing spammer. Now people are trying to tell me that I can't say [ blank ]
Every [ blank]ing time I get ganked. I say [ blank ]!! Does that mean I have a serious [ blank]ing problem?
I can care less if english has 1 word or a million words. I like to say [ blank ], [ blank ] and [blank]!
what is this [ blank ]ing world coming to?
Oh ya, I am sure I misspelled something but you know what? I really don't [ blank ]ing care.
Have a nice [ blank ]ing day
If you want a friend, get a dog.
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Iluvrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »And you're stereotyping vast nations and languages by saying cursing is not a part of it. Yes in lots of languages cursing is normal. For example Japanese
Really? In Japanese? I seriously doubt that...
... and I am saying that I doubt it as someone who has studied the language, is working through the series of JLPT exams, married a Japanese woman, travelled extensively in the country itself and now actually live and work here.... while using the language to communicate on a daily basis.
Aye so you should know that one of the most polite nations in the planet use swearing in the most casual way possible?
In my experience? No.
Then you've obviously been cursing and not realising
Since I still have my job as a high-school teacher and university lecturer? No, I don't think I have been.
But swearing is allowed in children's cartoons in Japan?.lol are you even in Japan?
Wait... you are basing your assertion that Japanese people swear all the time on the contents of children's cartoons? In a language that is so extraordinarily contextual that a single word can supply enough meaning for a sentence? Where the English language subtitles produced by various entities were once a by-word for linguistic failure?
And yes, I do. Fukuyama city. Hiroshima prefecture. Japan. For the last 2 years.
And exactly though? English without elitist rules is also extremely contextual
Being polite and/or considerate of others isn't elitist.
Then what about all those Latin words for scientific and mathematical terms? How is that not elitist
English is the most elitist language I'm aware of
It isn't elitist because each one is a shorthand term describing something very specific. Put it this way, would you prefer to use "car" or "4-wheeled, engine propelled person transporter"?0 -
ScottK1994✭✭✭ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »And you're stereotyping vast nations and languages by saying cursing is not a part of it. Yes in lots of languages cursing is normal. For example Japanese
Really? In Japanese? I seriously doubt that...
... and I am saying that I doubt it as someone who has studied the language, is working through the series of JLPT exams, married a Japanese woman, travelled extensively in the country itself and now actually live and work here.... while using the language to communicate on a daily basis.
Aye so you should know that one of the most polite nations in the planet use swearing in the most casual way possible?
In my experience? No.
Then you've obviously been cursing and not realising
Since I still have my job as a high-school teacher and university lecturer? No, I don't think I have been.
But swearing is allowed in children's cartoons in Japan?.lol are you even in Japan?
Wait... you are basing your assertion that Japanese people swear all the time on the contents of children's cartoons? In a language that is so extraordinarily contextual that a single word can supply enough meaning for a sentence? Where the English language subtitles produced by various entities were once a by-word for linguistic failure?
And yes, I do. Fukuyama city. Hiroshima prefecture. Japan. For the last 2 years.
And exactly though? English without elitist rules is also extremely contextual
Being polite and/or considerate of others isn't elitist.
Then what about all those Latin words for scientific and mathematical terms? How is that not elitist
English is the most elitist language I'm aware of
It isn't elitist because each one is a shorthand term describing something very specific. Put it this way, would you prefer to use "car" or "4-wheeled, engine propelled person transporter"?
Terms like that aren't obviously elitist now. But all those scientific terms were decided BEFORE the public had ability to read and write. No average person could understand Latin. And certain people back then loved feeling so superior to the English speakers..0 -
josefcifkaeb17_ESO✭✭✭✭I got my profanity filter off, I don't like cursing, but I hate censorship more.(つ -‘ _ ‘- )つ ▇ ▅ █ ▅ ▇ ▂ ▃ ▁ ▁ ▅ ▃ ▅ ▅ ▄ ▅ ▇ ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ1 -
Takes-No-Prisoner✭✭✭✭✭
✭If I cuss, I tend to use it in such a way that it makes a funny moment even funnier. Using it every other sentence just makes me look foolish.
When in doubt, don't cuss at all. Especially if you're among peoples ya don't know.0 -
ScottK1994✭✭✭josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »I got my profanity filter off, I don't like cursing, but I hate censorship more.
So in game has a profanity filter option? That's good I hope its same for console. Even if it's just to say "[snip] run!!"
If I feel I end up too harsh in my urgency or whatever in an adrenaline filled situation I can apologise after. I don't want to seem too calm when I'm not
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jedtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »And you're stereotyping vast nations and languages by saying cursing is not a part of it. Yes in lots of languages cursing is normal. For example Japanese
Really? In Japanese? I seriously doubt that...
... and I am saying that I doubt it as someone who has studied the language, is working through the series of JLPT exams, married a Japanese woman, travelled extensively in the country itself and now actually live and work here.... while using the language to communicate on a daily basis.
Aye so you should know that one of the most polite nations in the planet use swearing in the most casual way possible?
In my experience? No.
Then you've obviously been cursing and not realising
Since I still have my job as a high-school teacher and university lecturer? No, I don't think I have been.
But swearing is allowed in children's cartoons in Japan?.lol are you even in Japan?
Wait... you are basing your assertion that Japanese people swear all the time on the contents of children's cartoons? In a language that is so extraordinarily contextual that a single word can supply enough meaning for a sentence? Where the English language subtitles produced by various entities were once a by-word for linguistic failure?
And yes, I do. Fukuyama city. Hiroshima prefecture. Japan. For the last 2 years.
And exactly though? English without elitist rules is also extremely contextual
Being polite and/or considerate of others isn't elitist.
Then what about all those Latin words for scientific and mathematical terms? How is that not elitist
English is the most elitist language I'm aware of
english elitist?
its one of the most commonly spoken languages on the planet - how can it be elitist?0 -
vamp_emily✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I know sometimes when I say something in chat ( while in PvP under stressful situations ). I look up and see my words were censored.
I think to myself.. oops did I type what I was thinking? Most all cases I didn't even curse.
If you want a friend, get a dog.
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jedtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ScottK1994 wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »english has well over a million words - if you can't get your point across emphatically enough without swearing you aren't trying....
That's not how it works at all. You use the words the audience understands. If I was on Facebook I wouldn't even use words like audience because most people are really basic at reading and understanding.
in my experience that is precisely how it works - just choose your words carefully.
what is this facebook you speak of? i know it not.0 -
ScottK1994✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »And you're stereotyping vast nations and languages by saying cursing is not a part of it. Yes in lots of languages cursing is normal. For example Japanese
Really? In Japanese? I seriously doubt that...
... and I am saying that I doubt it as someone who has studied the language, is working through the series of JLPT exams, married a Japanese woman, travelled extensively in the country itself and now actually live and work here.... while using the language to communicate on a daily basis.
Aye so you should know that one of the most polite nations in the planet use swearing in the most casual way possible?
In my experience? No.
Then you've obviously been cursing and not realising
Since I still have my job as a high-school teacher and university lecturer? No, I don't think I have been.
But swearing is allowed in children's cartoons in Japan?.lol are you even in Japan?
Wait... you are basing your assertion that Japanese people swear all the time on the contents of children's cartoons? In a language that is so extraordinarily contextual that a single word can supply enough meaning for a sentence? Where the English language subtitles produced by various entities were once a by-word for linguistic failure?
And yes, I do. Fukuyama city. Hiroshima prefecture. Japan. For the last 2 years.
And exactly though? English without elitist rules is also extremely contextual
Being polite and/or considerate of others isn't elitist.
Then what about all those Latin words for scientific and mathematical terms? How is that not elitist
English is the most elitist language I'm aware of
english elitist?
its one of the most commonly spoken languages on the planet - how can it be elitist?
I'm pretty sure I explained.
Before the public learned to read and write the small group that could used Latin, they decided to use Latin words in Science because the public couldn't understand Latin.
There are also all sorts of conforming of the language in high school to try and kill creativity0 -
GreenhaloX✭✭✭✭✭
✭Those who curse or all for cursing can do it all you want, but just remember, though.. treat others the way you would like to be treated. That goes for usage of language as well. Run the chance of someone really being offended and reporting you or not.0 -
ScottK1994✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »ScottK1994 wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »english has well over a million words - if you can't get your point across emphatically enough without swearing you aren't trying....
That's not how it works at all. You use the words the audience understands. If I was on Facebook I wouldn't even use words like audience because most people are really basic at reading and understanding.
in my experience that is precisely how it works - just choose your words carefully.
what is this facebook you speak of? i know it not.
If you're seriously not an active member of social media then you're losing out on the progression of our youth. They're quite smart kids, even though they take things too seriously0 -
ScottK1994✭✭✭GreenhaloX wrote: »Those who curse or all for cursing can do it all you want, but just remember, though.. treat others the way you would like to be treated. That goes for usage of language as well. Run the chance of someone really being offended and reporting you or not.
In my view cursing isn't the same as an insult. In fact in the UK it's very common that a good insult sounds clean at first0
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