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Is cursing important for your communication, yes or no?

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  • jedtb16_ESO
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    ScottK1994 wrote: »
    jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
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    Iluvrien wrote: »
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    Iluvrien wrote: »
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    And you're stereotyping vast nations and languages by saying cursing is not a part of it. Yes in lots of languages cursing is normal. For example Japanese

    Really? In Japanese? I seriously doubt that...

    ... and I am saying that I doubt it as someone who has studied the language, is working through the series of JLPT exams, married a Japanese woman, travelled extensively in the country itself and now actually live and work here.... while using the language to communicate on a daily basis.

    Aye so you should know that one of the most polite nations in the planet use swearing in the most casual way possible?

    In my experience? No.

    Then you've obviously been cursing and not realising

    Since I still have my job as a high-school teacher and university lecturer? No, I don't think I have been.

    But swearing is allowed in children's cartoons in Japan?.lol are you even in Japan?

    Wait... you are basing your assertion that Japanese people swear all the time on the contents of children's cartoons? In a language that is so extraordinarily contextual that a single word can supply enough meaning for a sentence? Where the English language subtitles produced by various entities were once a by-word for linguistic failure?

    And yes, I do. Fukuyama city. Hiroshima prefecture. Japan. For the last 2 years.

    And exactly though? English without elitist rules is also extremely contextual

    Being polite and/or considerate of others isn't elitist.

    Then what about all those Latin words for scientific and mathematical terms? How is that not elitist

    English is the most elitist language I'm aware of

    english elitist?

    its one of the most commonly spoken languages on the planet - how can it be elitist?

    I'm pretty sure I explained.

    Before the public learned to read and write the small group that could used Latin, they decided to use Latin words in Science because the public couldn't understand Latin.

    There are also all sorts of conforming of the language in high school to try and kill creativity

    back in the day latin was used as a lingua franca to enable people who spoke different languages to communicate in a common language - much the way english, spanish and mandarin are used today. it was used particularly in early science so that there could be a common system for naming things (google linneus to get a picture of this). the idea that it was used to debar people is just plain wrong.
  • jedtb16_ESO
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    ScottK1994 wrote: »
    jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
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    english has well over a million words - if you can't get your point across emphatically enough without swearing you aren't trying....

    That's not how it works at all. You use the words the audience understands. If I was on Facebook I wouldn't even use words like audience because most people are really basic at reading and understanding.

    in my experience that is precisely how it works - just choose your words carefully.

    what is this facebook you speak of? i know it not.

    If you're seriously not an active member of social media then you're losing out on the progression of our youth. They're quite smart kids, even though they take things too seriously

    the facebook thing was a joke. i did look at it for a short while (a while ago) and decided that i really don't need to know every time someone eats a sandwich or is feeling miserable.
  • ScottK1994
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    jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
    ScottK1994 wrote: »
    jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
    ScottK1994 wrote: »
    Iluvrien wrote: »
    ScottK1994 wrote: »
    Iluvrien wrote: »
    ScottK1994 wrote: »
    Iluvrien wrote: »
    ScottK1994 wrote: »
    Iluvrien wrote: »
    ScottK1994 wrote: »
    Iluvrien wrote: »
    ScottK1994 wrote: »
    And you're stereotyping vast nations and languages by saying cursing is not a part of it. Yes in lots of languages cursing is normal. For example Japanese

    Really? In Japanese? I seriously doubt that...

    ... and I am saying that I doubt it as someone who has studied the language, is working through the series of JLPT exams, married a Japanese woman, travelled extensively in the country itself and now actually live and work here.... while using the language to communicate on a daily basis.

    Aye so you should know that one of the most polite nations in the planet use swearing in the most casual way possible?

    In my experience? No.

    Then you've obviously been cursing and not realising

    Since I still have my job as a high-school teacher and university lecturer? No, I don't think I have been.

    But swearing is allowed in children's cartoons in Japan?.lol are you even in Japan?

    Wait... you are basing your assertion that Japanese people swear all the time on the contents of children's cartoons? In a language that is so extraordinarily contextual that a single word can supply enough meaning for a sentence? Where the English language subtitles produced by various entities were once a by-word for linguistic failure?

    And yes, I do. Fukuyama city. Hiroshima prefecture. Japan. For the last 2 years.

    And exactly though? English without elitist rules is also extremely contextual

    Being polite and/or considerate of others isn't elitist.

    Then what about all those Latin words for scientific and mathematical terms? How is that not elitist

    English is the most elitist language I'm aware of

    english elitist?

    its one of the most commonly spoken languages on the planet - how can it be elitist?

    I'm pretty sure I explained.

    Before the public learned to read and write the small group that could used Latin, they decided to use Latin words in Science because the public couldn't understand Latin.

    There are also all sorts of conforming of the language in high school to try and kill creativity

    back in the day latin was used as a lingua franca to enable people who spoke different languages to communicate in a common language - much the way english, spanish and mandarin are used today. it was used particularly in early science so that there could be a common system for naming things (google linneus to get a picture of this). the idea that it was used to debar people is just plain wrong.

    And? The why and how can be different. Regardless if it worked as bridge they used it as a way to feel superior to others. Things like that happen today still in every setting
  • ScottK1994
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    jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
    ScottK1994 wrote: »
    jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
    ScottK1994 wrote: »
    jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
    english has well over a million words - if you can't get your point across emphatically enough without swearing you aren't trying....

    That's not how it works at all. You use the words the audience understands. If I was on Facebook I wouldn't even use words like audience because most people are really basic at reading and understanding.

    in my experience that is precisely how it works - just choose your words carefully.

    what is this facebook you speak of? i know it not.

    If you're seriously not an active member of social media then you're losing out on the progression of our youth. They're quite smart kids, even though they take things too seriously

    the facebook thing was a joke. i did look at it for a short while (a while ago) and decided that i really don't need to know every time someone eats a sandwich or is feeling miserable.

    Fair enough, I avoid those people. It allows popular views of the moment to be shared, discussed etc though. And unlike reddit it isn't majority "basement dweller" type it's all different people. Less misogyny, less crap "im in a crowd" memes etc.. but it still has those guys
    Edited by ScottK1994 on August 2, 2016 2:04PM
  • xarguideb17_ESO
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    Every now and then I come upon sour losers in Cyrodiil. They curse and whine and blame for cheating, blame for skill spamming, anything really.
    They are (like) ill tempered children.
    There's no reasoning with these kind of simpletons usually, so censoring such spam is justified.
    This is the only kind of cursing I've seen in the game. It's pointless.

    I suggest, if you send a whisper or a zone chat message that contains a curse, the whole message will not be sent.
    L2Communicate.
  • jedtb16_ESO
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    ScottK1994 wrote: »
    jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
    ScottK1994 wrote: »
    jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
    ScottK1994 wrote: »
    jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
    english has well over a million words - if you can't get your point across emphatically enough without swearing you aren't trying....

    That's not how it works at all. You use the words the audience understands. If I was on Facebook I wouldn't even use words like audience because most people are really basic at reading and understanding.

    in my experience that is precisely how it works - just choose your words carefully.

    what is this facebook you speak of? i know it not.

    If you're seriously not an active member of social media then you're losing out on the progression of our youth. They're quite smart kids, even though they take things too seriously

    the facebook thing was a joke. i did look at it for a short while (a while ago) and decided that i really don't need to know every time someone eats a sandwich or is feeling miserable.

    Fair enough, I avoid those people. It allows popular views of the moment to be shared, discussed etc though. And unlike reddit it isn't majority "basement dweller" type it's all different people. Less misogyny, less crap "im in a crowd" memes etc.. but it still has those guys

    to be honest game forums are the closest i get to social media - i just don't have the time for it.
  • Reevster
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    No, only losers feel they need to curse and swear in chat.
  • ScottK1994
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    xarguideb17_ESO wrote: »
    Every now and then I come upon sour losers in Cyrodiil. They curse and whine and blame for cheating, blame for skill spamming, anything really.
    They are (like) ill tempered children.
    There's no reasoning with these kind of simpletons usually, so censoring such spam is justified.
    This is the only kind of cursing I've seen in the game. It's pointless.

    I suggest, if you send a whisper or a zone chat message that contains a curse, the whole message will not be sent.
    L2Communicate.

    You can message other Alliances? Interesting, I knew on PS4 we can just send them a message.
    Well I think there should be two in game settings for profanity. One for your alliance and one for the others.
  • ScottK1994
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    jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
    ScottK1994 wrote: »
    jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
    ScottK1994 wrote: »
    jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
    ScottK1994 wrote: »
    jedtb16_ESO wrote: »
    english has well over a million words - if you can't get your point across emphatically enough without swearing you aren't trying....

    That's not how it works at all. You use the words the audience understands. If I was on Facebook I wouldn't even use words like audience because most people are really basic at reading and understanding.

    in my experience that is precisely how it works - just choose your words carefully.

    what is this facebook you speak of? i know it not.

    If you're seriously not an active member of social media then you're losing out on the progression of our youth. They're quite smart kids, even though they take things too seriously

    the facebook thing was a joke. i did look at it for a short while (a while ago) and decided that i really don't need to know every time someone eats a sandwich or is feeling miserable.

    Fair enough, I avoid those people. It allows popular views of the moment to be shared, discussed etc though. And unlike reddit it isn't majority "basement dweller" type it's all different people. Less misogyny, less crap "im in a crowd" memes etc.. but it still has those guys

    to be honest game forums are the closest i get to social media - i just don't have the time for it.

    Haha alright, the lack of off topic makes it purely about the game though? I could only talk about a game for so long, its not a heated to anyone except gamers haha
  • ScottK1994
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    Reevster wrote: »
    No, only losers feel they need to curse and swear in chat.

    Thanks for your advice, winner. Lol
  • vamp_emily
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    This guy didn't even curse at me, and i got his point :)

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    Edited by vamp_emily on August 2, 2016 3:14PM
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