Is cursing important for your communication, yes or no?

ScottK1994
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This isn't really about words being censored, it's how they're censored.

We have technologically evolved in to the age of communication, yet our social evolution still requires that 90% of how we communicate is in body language.
The vast majority of what people say online gets misunderstood. Also cursing is a sign of passion and personal honesty, while not necessarily being an insult. When someone is in descriptive mode and then there is lost words like "***", that's brings our understanding below 10%

All the best insults dont have a single curse word also, and a curse word itself isn't offensive and if someone was offended by it when not an insult, it's called being overly privileged?

And also, since the forums won't be uncensored of course, do you think censored words should atleast show the amount of censored letters so that we can at least guess what they said?
Edited by ScottK1994 on August 2, 2016 11:18AM

Is cursing important for your communication, yes or no? 112 votes

Yes
37% 42 votes
No
62% 70 votes
  • ArchMikem
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    No. There are plenty of words in the dictionary that are perfectly capable of providing emphasis and or description.

    Besides, people who need to say [snip] every time they open their mouths have a serious problem.
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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on December 7, 2025 7:10PM
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  • Tandor
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    Cursing is neither important nor remotely necessary. There are plenty of more mature ways of communicating one's emotions or emphasising a point.
  • Funkopotamus
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    You -Blanking- right it sure as -Blank- is!!
    You -Blanking- Blanker--!
    What the -Blank- is -Blanking- wrong with you!

    For -blank- sake

    :p
    Edited by Funkopotamus on August 2, 2016 11:22AM
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  • Phinix1
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    I have recently started making a conscious effort not to. I live a fairly isolated existence, and sometimes forget that in public people prefer to maintain a certain decorum. I think it is less about political correctness or censorship and more about maintaining an atmosphere of calm and peace, because that's what most find comfortable.

    I can respect that, and honestly I don't mind adapting my speech patterns. Sometimes there is that obvious pause, but I will frequently come up with something far more interesting and articulate to say in place of whatever would otherwise have sprung unchecked from mind to mouth. :p

    It also helps you to learn mindfulness I think.

    Edited by Phinix1 on August 2, 2016 11:26AM
  • ScottK1994
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    No. There are plenty of words in the dictionary that are perfectly capable of providing emphasis and or description.

    Besides, people who need to say [snip] every time they open their mouths have a serious problem.

    I disagree, common dialects etc use different kinds of words to emphasise.
    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on December 7, 2025 7:12PM
  • Kammakazi
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    I can't even say my personal favorite word, ***.
  • ScottK1994
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    Phinix1 wrote: »
    I have recently started making a conscious effort not to. I live a fairly isolated existence, and sometimes forget that in public people prefer to maintain a certain decorum. I think it is less about political correctness or censorship and more about maintaining an atmosphere of calm and peace, because that's what most find comfortable.

    I can respect that, and honestly I don't mind adapting my speech patterns. Sometimes there is that obvious pause, but I will frequently come up with something far more interesting and articulate to say in place of whatever would otherwise have sprung from mind to mouth. :p

    I still think that being articulate in a public setting requires the use of all language, even if censored ****s can make a difference in the sentence than ***. When it's all censored into the same 3 stars it's definitely a lost word
    Edited by ScottK1994 on August 2, 2016 11:28AM
  • drakhan2002_ESO
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    What cracks me up about cursing in this game is that some of the NPCs are allowed to curse, but if you use the exact same word in chat, it gets censored!

    I am thinking specifically of when you save King Jorunn in Windhelm from an assassins in the quest "One Victor, One King". He says the word "...those [snip]"...if you type the exact same word in chat...blamo! Censored.

    There are other examples, but that one always stuck out to me.
    [edited for profanity bypass]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on December 7, 2025 7:17PM
  • Destyran
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    Im aussie *** of course it matterss!!!
  • Phinix1
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    You could always try thinly veiled world play. Or replacing curse words with obvious word salad substitutes. :p
    Edited by Phinix1 on August 2, 2016 12:03PM
  • ScottK1994
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    And this isn't even the point I want to make. In READING these censored out words, we can't uncensor it ourselves. That's basic I think. You know how in those tabloids they'd get you to say the [snip] word in your head by having it all starred out except the one letter? That's when it's wrong. We should at least have an idea of what the curse word was.

    At this point if someone swore three times in a sentence the whole thing would become lost in understanding
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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on December 7, 2025 7:17PM
  • Vaoh
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    Even back in the days when I played Call of Duty, I didn't cuss when I lost a match. Usually stuck to free-for-all modes too because I never needed to rely on others to not perform as well as me, and then get really frustrated and look for others to blame. Perhaps it was because I rarely lost, and I always thought it was hilarious when someone always did rage outloud through my TV speakers when I beat them. This made me realize thad following suite was unnecessary. With that said, Call of Duty's community is a lot more toxic in general than ESO's community is. :lol: (I was very, very good at Call of Duty) :)
    (MW2, BO1, AW. I was very well-known in the Xbox 360 Black Ops 1 community)

    I like to have fun and not stress out when I run content in ESO! Cussing just isn't how I usually react when I die, and when it is I am not angry. The only way I can get frustrated when playing a game is if I run the same content (trial) with a group that will not change strategies to succeed until an eventual disband after 4+ hrs of wasted time failing.... -_-
  • ScottK1994
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    Doncellius wrote: »
    Even back in the days when I played Call of Duty, I didn't cuss when I lost a match. Usually stuck to free-for-all modes too because I never needed to rely on others to not perform as well as me, and then get really frustrated and look for others to blame. Perhaps it was because I rarely lost, and I always thought it was hilarious when someone always did rage outloud through my TV speakers when I beat them. This made me realize thad following suite was unnecessary. With that said, Call of Duty's community is a lot more toxic in general than ESO's community is. :lol: (I was very, very good at Call of Duty) :)
    (MW2, BO1, AW. I was very well-known in the Xbox 360 Black Ops 1 community)

    I like to have fun and not stress out when I run content in ESO! Cussing just isn't how I usually react when I die, and when it is I am not angry. The only way I can get frustrated when playing a game is if I run the same content (trial) with a group that will not change strategies to succeed until an eventual disband after 4+ hrs of wasted time failing.... -_-

    Hm but see there's all these stereotypes that cursing is as a reaction? I curse most when I'm making jokes
  • ScottK1994
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    And I curse least when I aim it another person. I'm truly horrible in those kinds of arguments as I'll attack a persons flaws and insecurities. Don't need to swear for that
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    ScottK1994 wrote: »
    Phinix1 wrote: »
    I have recently started making a conscious effort not to. I live a fairly isolated existence, and sometimes forget that in public people prefer to maintain a certain decorum. I think it is less about political correctness or censorship and more about maintaining an atmosphere of calm and peace, because that's what most find comfortable.

    I can respect that, and honestly I don't mind adapting my speech patterns. Sometimes there is that obvious pause, but I will frequently come up with something far more interesting and articulate to say in place of whatever would otherwise have sprung from mind to mouth. :p

    I still think that being articulate in a public setting requires the use of all language, even if censored ****s can make a difference in the sentence than ***. When it's all censored into the same 3 stars it's definitely a lost word

    Please don't equate cursing with the word "articulate".

    If you want to be more articulate with how you express your emotions try to look for more appropriate words, and saying: "You're an [snip], doesn't really make sense. It may only seem like it because people are used to using it, but in all honesty, it makes no sense. I don't like dealing with people who curse 1.) excessively and 2.) derogatorily.

    I can tolerate someone who curses to express their feelings towards a situation and when said at minimum. But if you curse to insult someone or use it in every other word in all your sentences, then I just pity you, and will probably just put you in ignore. I most certainly do not listen to anyone who is toxic, there is no value in entertaining people who would rather want to mock you than make you understand how they feel.

    Culture or not, rudeness is rudeness. And there is no excuse for that.
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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on December 7, 2025 7:19PM
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  • Phinix1
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    I understand what you meant better now that you changed the wording of your OP. I think the same would apply also to scenarios where a different phrasing would be superior to counting asterisks.

    Whether we personally perceive it that way or not, the majority of society are still conditioned to react apprehensively to "bad language." People are more likely to misinterpret what you meant to say, or pass judgement on your character based on your expressed vocabulary.

    It isn't even so much about caring what people think as it is honestly wanting to communicate effectively. Profanity may be effective in certain limited and intimate scenarios among friends but in mixed company, it is a barrier to meaningful human interaction.
  • SantaOrc
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    In forums, curse words indicate that someone isn't rational but emotional. I can't take someone using to many curse words seriously.
    in RL i swear a lot, better than punching everyone in the face and getting arrested :D (never punched someone)
    Edited by SantaOrc on August 2, 2016 12:02PM
  • GreenhaloX
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    Keep profanity in house or among close friends if cursing is considered part of your primary language. It can be viewed as un-professional in other environments and will likely offend many, especially when social media/communication are often misunderstood or misinterpreted. You may be just joking, but others may not see it as that. Especially during guildchats, there are times when some are just outright vile with their language.. definitely not suitable to post. However, these are normally good folks, and they are overall comfortable with each others and can take it as a joke, but sometimes they are forgetting that newer members are joining and may not see it as such. There were some that left, I'm sure because of the profaned language.

    In my opinion.. to foster a respectable and well-rounded environment for all, keep it in-house, and not in public or social media. I have been around a long time in a work environment with a large group of mainly guys who work well together, are comfortable with each others, and cursing seems to be acceptable among these all males group environment. However, they all know better to refrain while in public or among other groups of people, especially among children or older generation. This makes them professionals and human as well. I, myself, being considered the leadership or manager type, have to uphold a more professional demeanor than the others. Granted, I am a guy and human, and I curse the hell out of day, during a vMA try or other difficult aspects of ESO, but this is in my house. If I had children, I would likely watch my language quite closely. In public or among those guys, I rarely curse or use profanity.
    Edited by GreenhaloX on August 2, 2016 12:03PM
  • ScottK1994
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    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    Keep profanity in house or among close friends if cursing is considered part of your primary language. It can be viewed as un-professional in other environments and will likely offend many, especially when social media/communication are often misunderstood or misinterpreted. You may be just joking, but others may not see it as that. Especially during guildchats, there are times when some are just outright vile with their language.. definitely not suitable to post. However, these are normally good folks, and they are overall comfortable with each others and can take it as a joke, but sometimes they are forgetting that newer members are joining and may not see it as such. There were some that left, I'm sure because of the profaned language.

    In my opinion.. to foster a respectable and well-rounded environment for all, keep it in-house, and not in public or social media. I have been around a long time in a work environment with a large group of mainly guys who work well together, are comfortable with each others, and cursing seems to be acceptable among these all males group environment. However, they all know better to refrain while in public or among other groups of people, especially among children or older generation. This makes them professionals and human as well. I, myself, being considered the leadership or manager type, have to uphold a more professional demeanor than the others. Granted, I am a guy and human, and I curse the hell out of day, during a vMA try or other difficult aspects of ESO, but this is in my house. If I had children, I would likely watch my language quite closely. In public or among those guys, I rarely curse or use profanity.

    I really don't understand the point. This is a community of vastly different people with different languages and forms of communication. Prejudice about language isn't the way to go
  • ScottK1994
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    Also words that aren't even curses are censored. [snip]
    [edited for profanity bypass]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on December 7, 2025 7:21PM
  • milkbox
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    Cursing is essential for any IT work I do at my house (bleepin' machine) and often required for small home repairs.

    I rarely use profanity in conversation because I'd rather not alienate *anyone*. My dog, however, knows exactly what a potty-mouth I am.
  • WandaMey
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    I'm a bit lost here, i thought cursing was usually included in "mature content"?

    Regarding the "other people reaction", at worst it'll just make an helpful sorting between open minded people who actually read/hear the messages and try to understand the expressed concepts and the one that reply as soon they stumble on a keyword for the sake of listening to themselves.
  • ScottK1994
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    I didn't even know In game was censored(I'm on console) and that is definitely ridiculous and should be an option
  • ScottK1994
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    I mean I thought Americans had freedom of speech. In the UK we don't even. But we are allowed to curse at nothing. We can get jailed for insults though
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    Cussing (swearing) is important for me for my communication status. whether or not people agree to it is their business.

    I find it silly that people would get so offended over a silly word like [snip]
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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on December 7, 2025 7:21PM
  • ScottK1994
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    There should be a language policy on the forums I agree with that. Censored words should show the amount of letters I think though.

    And apparently we are censored in game? That needs to be an option, we are adults so we should be able to choose whether to read curses on our screens ingame.

    I understand forum rules of course I just don't get the 3 star thing in the slightest, it kills the whole sentence!
  • NordSwordnBoard
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    A comedian named George Carlin has a relevant stand up bit on this subject.
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  • raidentenshu_ESO
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    A comedian named George Carlin has a relevant stand up bit on this subject.

    Exactly

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbZhpf3sQxQ
  • Phinix1
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    I'm trying to imagine the movie Pulp Fiction without profanity...
  • GreenhaloX
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    ScottK1994 wrote: »

    I really don't understand the point. This is a community of vastly different people with different languages and forms of communication. Prejudice about language isn't the way to go

    It's not about prejudice, man. Profanity/cursing is not part of any official language. It's about what are widely accepted among the masses or socially acceptable. It is not widely acceptable to use profanity or curse in public or in social media. Look at the media or facebook.. so many people have been dismissed/fired and disciplined for using profaned languages, in public speaking and posts. I'm sure ZOS has a rule/policy to restrict the usage of such profanity or offensive language for this forum and in-game voice chats. If cursing is your thing, fine.. just remember you still have to watch what you say among groups of other people in ESO, public or otherwise. Not everybody will be so pleasing.
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