Yes, I am going to keep Hurling Abuse at the Breton Costume.

Garldeen · July 2016

Probably a concept idea which someone forgot to finish before they went on sale...

Mashille · July 2016

Rayya_Blackheart wrote: »

Realised I never saw this post before now so...

No. I won't as I see it as a solvable issue

GreenSoup2HoT · July 2016

aheck1111_ESO wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Also the ID of the collectible is very low, somewhere in the 100's while new costumes are around 380-390'ish now, seems this was added a long time ago before being released.

Great find! No doubt that is supporting @Mashille's theory in OP.

Zos getting exposed more and more as this thread goes on. Nice.

Woeler · July 2016

Added only a few days after another, notice the huge difference in ID

Mashille · July 2016

@Woeler

Ahhhhh.

I like getting things right

Conquistador · July 2016

Woeler wrote: »

Added only a few days after another, notice the huge difference in ID

wow...

Cazzy · July 2016

That's not good

Kalante · July 2016

i usually dont care about cosmetics since i think they are useless, bring nothing of value, and overall it's just lazy way to make easy money but holy moly that breton costume is super bad lololololololol. Those textures are just horrible somebody actually looked at that and said "yup this looks legit".

CherryCake · July 2016

Oh wow so they just made it a loooong time ago, and didnt even revise it before uploading it? Thats crazy...probably they run really low on staff (which happens more than we believe, and its something we will never find out)...

Garldeen · July 2016

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

Oh wow so they just made it a loooong time ago, and didnt even revise it before uploading it? Thats crazy...probably they run really low on staff (which happens more than we believe, and its something we will never find out)...

If it is to be believed that the previous DLC were also designed with the launch of the game (and tweaked) then there is a very big lack of any development taking place of late

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

Everytime someone posts about Zenimax replying in this thread they back off just as they were about to because

CherryCake · July 2016

wonkydog wrote: »

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

Oh wow so they just made it a loooong time ago, and didnt even revise it before uploading it? Thats crazy...probably they run really low on staff (which happens more than we believe, and its something we will never find out)...

If it is to be believed that the previous DLC were also designed with the launch of the game (and tweaked) then there is a very big lack of any development taking place of late

Oh wow... then maybe we should really cut them some slack... there has to be a reason to why they did (or rather didnt) do all of this new

... to be fair, an online game, the servers, dont run on nothing, so maybe it has something to do with the sub removals but I am talking out of my butt because I dont actually have any legit proof, however I cant imagine any other reason as to why they didnt make anything "new" or improved. Its not like they dont WANT people to buy their things or their game to succeed.

CherryCake · July 2016

Im saying oh wow a lot...oh wow...

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

wonkydog wrote: »

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

Oh wow so they just made it a loooong time ago, and didnt even revise it before uploading it? Thats crazy...probably they run really low on staff (which happens more than we believe, and its something we will never find out)...

If it is to be believed that the previous DLC were also designed with the launch of the game (and tweaked) then there is a very big lack of any development taking place of late

Oh wow... then maybe we should really cut them some slack... there has to be a reason to why they did (or rather didnt) do all of this new ... to be fair, an online game, the servers, dont run on nothing, so maybe it has something to do with the sub removals but I am talking out of my butt because I dont actually have any legit proof, however I cant imagine any other reason as to why they didnt make anything "new" or improved. Its not like they dont WANT people to buy their things or their game to succeed.

THESE forum users? Cut ZENIMAX some slack?? ...Heh heh... Heheheh.....

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Ok... Ok...... I'm done... Whew...... Heheh...heh.....heh....................heh.

CherryCake · July 2016

@UltimaJoe777 well I was one of those that didnt cut them any slack either, and I changed my opinion too xD people can change how they look at things.

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

@UltimaJoe777 well I was one of those that didnt cut them any slack either, and I changed my opinion too xD people can change how they look at things.

Yeah, but they don't all wanna lol

CherryCake · July 2016

And Omg Arnold

when I was a kid I told my mom I will marry him... then when I grew up realized he could be my granpa so I gave up on my dream.

starkerealm · July 2016

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

aheck1111_ESO wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Also the ID of the collectible is very low, somewhere in the 100's while new costumes are around 380-390'ish now, seems this was added a long time ago before being released.

Great find! No doubt that is supporting @Mashille's theory in OP.

Zos getting exposed more and more as this thread goes on. Nice.

Not really, "exposed." I mean we've known this costume was coming for over a year now. Okay, maybe it was first datamined in September, so just under a year. But this is not new info.

To be fair, ZOS probably should have released all three over Christmas, and just gotten this out of the way then... but still.

maboleth · August 2016

wonkydog wrote: »

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

Oh wow so they just made it a loooong time ago, and didnt even revise it before uploading it? Thats crazy...probably they run really low on staff (which happens more than we believe, and its something we will never find out)...

If it is to be believed that the previous DLC were also designed with the launch of the game (and tweaked) then there is a very big lack of any development taking place of late

We really don't know what's it like to make the game as big and as an A+ title as ESO. So... their art department and everyone else is probably busy as hell, working on something to be released next year in this time...

Still, that's no excuse to release a poor version of the iconic costume and ask for 2k, one that was endorsed and loved by so many fans and role players. The first two Hero cosumes were ESO standard, the third one was just amateur-made. Doesn't even look official.

Shadowhide · August 2016

I really hope they are just too busy with the new DLC to focus on a costume and that they'll soon say something to us about it

Garldeen · August 2016

maboleth wrote: »

wonkydog wrote: »

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

Oh wow so they just made it a loooong time ago, and didnt even revise it before uploading it? Thats crazy...probably they run really low on staff (which happens more than we believe, and its something we will never find out)...

If it is to be believed that the previous DLC were also designed with the launch of the game (and tweaked) then there is a very big lack of any development taking place of late

We really don't know what's it like to make the game as big and as an A+ title as ESO. So... their art department and everyone else is probably busy as hell, working on something to be released next year in this time...

Still, that's no excuse to release a poor version of the iconic costume and ask for 2k, one that was endorsed and loved by so many fans and role players. The first two Hero cosumes were ESO standard, the third one was just amateur-made. Doesn't even look official.

True, however, other A+ games companies manage to get things released in a more acceptable condition and they are just as busy. Many other creative companies seem to release their products in working order. They are either trying to do too much with too few staff or do not have good enough staff.

They just need to apply more quality control over everything they release - dodgy costumes, dlc full of bugs, the marketing of assistants. People can be fine if the odd thing which is not right slips through, but it seems that the vast majority of things released have some kind of issue - how many other games devs would have released a costume in this state, DLCs with as many bugs as the last few and so on. The quality of this costume would have been instantly recognisable to someone who did a quality review on it. Items are either not getting reviewed before release, which is bad. Or things are getting reviewed and they cannot be bothered to fix them as they don't care enough, which is even worse.

At the end of the day, issues and mistakes happen. People are fine if they are not too frequent and there is communication from the supplier about it. Neither of those are the case in this game

josefcifkaeb17_ESO · August 2016

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

Oh wow so they just made it a loooong time ago, and didnt even revise it before uploading it? Thats crazy...probably they run really low on staff (which happens more than we believe, and its something we will never find out)...

Actually, all you have to do is check their employees on linkedin. For example lovely Maria Aliprando.
On linked in described like this:

"Maria is the Product Owner and Gameplay Designer for the Champion System; previously the Product Owner and Combat Designer for the monsters in The Elder Scrolls Online."

She's no longer working for Zenimax, of course there's no way of telling whether she left on her own or not.
Nonetheless, she played a huge part in ESO's development and she's gone now.

Here's an older list of known devs elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Developers_(Online)
I checked a few and apart from already mentioned Maria, Nick Konkle - Lead Gameplay Designer left, so did Todd Yarbrough - Effects Lead, so did Andrew Frederiksen - Producer. Feel free to speculate

Moloch1514 · August 2016

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

Oh wow so they just made it a loooong time ago, and didnt even revise it before uploading it? Thats crazy...probably they run really low on staff (which happens more than we believe, and its something we will never find out)...

Actually, all you have to do is check their employees on linkedin. For example lovely Maria Aliprando.
On linked in described like this:

"Maria is the Product Owner and Gameplay Designer for the Champion System; previously the Product Owner and Combat Designer for the monsters in The Elder Scrolls Online."

She's no longer working for Zenimax, of course there's no way of telling whether she left on her own or not.
Nonetheless, she played a huge part in ESO's development and she's gone now.

Here's an older list of known devs elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Developers_(Online)
I checked a few and apart from already mentioned Maria, Nick Konkle - Lead Gameplay Designer left, so did Todd Yarbrough - Effects Lead, so did Andrew Frederiksen - Producer. Feel free to speculate

Interesting!

Lysette · August 2016

Kalante wrote: »

i usually dont care about cosmetics since i think they are useless, bring nothing of value, and overall it's just lazy way to make easy money but holy moly that breton costume is super bad lololololololol. Those textures are just horrible somebody actually looked at that and said "yup this looks legit".

Or more like "yup, that's really awful, let's troll them with it".

CherryCake · August 2016

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

EstelioVeleth wrote: »

Oh wow so they just made it a loooong time ago, and didnt even revise it before uploading it? Thats crazy...probably they run really low on staff (which happens more than we believe, and its something we will never find out)...

Actually, all you have to do is check their employees on linkedin. For example lovely Maria Aliprando.
On linked in described like this:

"Maria is the Product Owner and Gameplay Designer for the Champion System; previously the Product Owner and Combat Designer for the monsters in The Elder Scrolls Online."

She's no longer working for Zenimax, of course there's no way of telling whether she left on her own or not.
Nonetheless, she played a huge part in ESO's development and she's gone now.

Here's an older list of known devs elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Developers_(Online)
I checked a few and apart from already mentioned Maria, Nick Konkle - Lead Gameplay Designer left, so did Todd Yarbrough - Effects Lead, so did Andrew Frederiksen - Producer. Feel free to speculate

Thank you a lot for this! It is indeed interesting

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Voxicity · August 2016

Just fell over while running in my breton costume because the coat sticks my legs together and doesn't let me run properly. Please fix for the safety of your players

maboleth · August 2016

In IT industry, people come and go. It's just the way it always been. Various reasons. I don't quite like it, but it's just the way it is. While everyone's input is valid, ESO is such a vast game, you can't notice sudden change in its dev team. Everyone add a small puzzle to much larger picture. They key thing is to have good leaders and healthy core. Good leadership can recognize the missing parts and find some good or even better substitute. That's what matters here.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · August 2016

maboleth wrote: »

In IT industry, people come and go. It's just the way it always been. Various reasons. I don't quite like it, but it's just the way it is. While everyone's input is valid, ESO is such a vast game, you can't notice sudden change in its dev team. Everyone add a small puzzle to much larger picture. They key thing is to have good leaders and healthy core. Good leadership can recognize the missing parts and find some good or even better substitute. That's what matters here.

Im not really sure that is much better. This game is all over the place at times. It also feels like the game is lacking any sort of long term vision or leadership. But that maybe just me. Everyone sees things differently.

Blackbird71 · August 2016

Mashille wrote: »

@Blackbird71

Americans copied the British phrase incorrectly is all. Most Americans say it that way.

I don't see that as being true. I'm an American, and I use it correctly. Throughout my life, most people I've talked to have used it correctly. It really only seems to be in recent years (relative to my age), with the increase in internet communication, that the incorrect form has gained ground and been heavily propagated. But that has just been my observation and experience.

starkerealm wrote: »

Blackbird71 wrote: »

Palidon wrote: »

Mashille wrote: »

@khele23eb17_ESO

Nah. I am not having this issue die down. I am gonna keep smashing my head against ZOS' front door till something happens. (Probably brain dis-function from hitting my head so much)

I agree with you 100% but, ZOS knows full well that eventually this thread will get buried like so many others in the past voicing players concerns and discontent. All they have to do is sit back and wait. They could care less about the concerns of players there actions show that time and time again. However, they also know that the majority of players will stick around anyways.

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

Sorry to nitpick, but you've used this same phrase at least four or five times already in this thread alone.

I'll let Mr. Yankovic explain:

"Weird Al" Yankovic - Word Crimes: "I could care less"

I could care less. Quite a bit less, in fact.

So, back to that Breton costume. Yes, it's still awful. Hopefully anyone who bought it has been pestering ZOS for refunds, otherwise I doubt ZOS will ever learn to put a bit more effort into these things. Nothing is ever likely to get fixed until it hits them in the pocketbook.

Conquistador · August 2016

That Breton Hero Costume looks like it was made in BETA. Absolutely disgusting that Zenimax took crowns from the.... "people" that bought it.