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jeedrzej · August 2016

Dont worry. Maybe they will buff it.... in 3 years

Bashev · August 2016

2 years ago we (magivka DKs) were gods in PvP. If anyone at that time had tell me that we gonna be the worst i would never believe him/her. @Wrobel what did you do?

Dracane · August 2016

If you get hit by crystal shard, then you are a bad Dragonknight. A Sorcerer can't kill a dragonknight if you don't mess up very very hard.

Dks have the second best health restoration in pvp after templar and the deadliest dps. Sure, your only burst combo is petrify and meteor. But that's enough to kill when you do it right.
To me, Dragonknight is still the most dangerous and annoying opponent after Magicka templars.

I would cry tears of happiness if my force shock would hit for the damage of your lava whip.
What DK could use in terms of pvp, is a bursty ability that they can combine with meteor. Maybe it's just because I am a Sorcerer and get completely countered by DKs. But from my point of view, DK is too strong and needs no buffs at all.
I will start solo pvping my magicka DK soon. Maybe this will change my opinion.

But if DK gets buffed, then scales really need a nerf. Reducing it to 2 seconds, but let it reflect an infinite number of projectiles again.

Bashev · August 2016

Dracane wrote: »

If you get hit by crystal shard, then you are a bad Dragonknight. A Sorcerer can't kill a dragonknight if you don't mess up very very hard.

Dks have the second best health restoration in pvp after templar and the deadliest dps. Sure, your only burst combo is petrify and meteor. But that's enough to kill when you do it right.
To me, Dragonknight is still the most dangerous and annoying opponent after Magicka templars.

I would cry tears of happiness if my force shock would hit for the damage of your lava whip.
What DK could use in terms of pvp, is a bursty ability that they can combine with meteor. Maybe it's just because I am a Sorcerer and get completely countered by DKs. But from my point of view, DK is too strong and needs no buffs at all.
I will start solo pvping my magicka DK soon. Maybe this will change my opinion.

But if DK gets buffed, then scales really need a nerf. Reducing it to 2 seconds, but let it reflect an infinite number of projectiles again.

Please Please

psychotic13 · August 2016

Nightblades can be pulled from cloak pretty easily, but you do have a point that Magicka DKs are nothing special in PvP.

what's your build and skill set up out of curiosity? As a Magicka DK I wouldn't use take flight anyway as it deals physical damage not magic damage.

Armitas · August 2016

Sorc/NB/Temp all have parallel offense/survival/internal sustain. We have no parallel internal sustain* because we have to hold our ultimates for a wombo combo because we don't have an execute, our survival is health based and blows, and our damage is low because we actually have to build for survival and sustain. On top of that our whip takes an entourage of skills, talons and engulfing flame, to even approach comparative damage to other classes.

It's complete negligence on ZOS's part over a year now and they don't seem to hear us.

(*helping hands is perpendicular)

Dracane · August 2016

Armitas wrote: »

Sorc/NB/Temp all have parallel offense/survival/internal sustain. We have no parallel internal sustain because we have to hold our ultimates for a wombo combo because we don't have an execute, our survival is health bases and blows, and our damage is low not because of tool tip scales but because we actually have to build for survival and sustain. (helping hands is perpendicular)

Nah, you don't have to do any of this. You are just forcing yourself into this choice.
Magicka DKs are the strongest shield stackers from a magicka perspective. All good Magicka DKs I see use annulment and healing ward. They can go full offense and don't need to worry about anything.

Sure, shields are a joke compared to a DK who builds for tankiness and health. But at least you have some defense while still being offensive.

Armitas · August 2016

Dracane wrote: »

But if DK gets buffed, then scales really need a nerf. Reducing it to 2 seconds, but let it reflect an infinite number of projectiles again.

At 2 seconds that would be all you could do. It's better at 4 seconds and 4 projectiles than 2 seconds with infinite because you at least have time between to do some manual damage.

Dracane · August 2016

Armitas wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

But if DK gets buffed, then scales really need a nerf. Reducing it to 2 seconds, but let it reflect an infinite number of projectiles again.

At 2 seconds that would be all you could do. It's better at 4 seconds and 4 projectiles than 2 seconds with infinite because you at least have time between to do some manual damage.

It's supposed to be a nerf afterall.
The thing is, that in a 1v1 environment, Wings offer an immunity against projectiles that's way too long.
At least you get something in return for a reduced duration. A luxury that Sorcs did not have

It's not like the cost of shields was reduced by 70% to match the duration nerf.

Armitas · August 2016

Dracane wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Sorc/NB/Temp all have parallel offense/survival/internal sustain. We have no parallel internal sustain because we have to hold our ultimates for a wombo combo because we don't have an execute, our survival is health bases and blows, and our damage is low not because of tool tip scales but because we actually have to build for survival and sustain. (helping hands is perpendicular)

Nah, you don't have to do any of this. You are just forcing yourself into this choice.
Magicka DKs are the strongest shield stackers from a magicka perspective. All good Magicka DKs I see use annulment and healing ward. They can go full offense and don't need to worry about anything.

Sure, shields are a joke compared to a DK who builds for tankiness and health. But at least you have some defense while still being offensive.

mDK's and sorcs both have access to healing ward and annulment. We don't stack those better than sorcs, they are universal skills. Sorcs do shields better because they can supplement them with mobility whereas the mDK is stationary with their shields taking constant damage. You can't go full offense on the mDK and not worry about anything. Even blobskys vid where he is using shields and light armor isn't full offense. He's wearing seducer because he can't handle our sad lack of sustain.

Dracane wrote: »

It's supposed to be a nerf afterall.

Are you seriously asking for mDK nerfs right now?

Drdeath20 · August 2016

I don't know much about dragon Knights. Heard stamina dk's are beast. Also heard that magicka dragon Knights are terrible in 1v1 fights. How are magicka dragon Knights in group battles? What roles can they play in a group?

R4B0N3 · August 2016

Dracane wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Sorc/NB/Temp all have parallel offense/survival/internal sustain. We have no parallel internal sustain because we have to hold our ultimates for a wombo combo because we don't have an execute, our survival is health bases and blows, and our damage is low not because of tool tip scales but because we actually have to build for survival and sustain. (helping hands is perpendicular)

Nah, you don't have to do any of this. You are just forcing yourself into this choice.
Magicka DKs are the strongest shield stackers from a magicka perspective. All good Magicka DKs I see use annulment and healing ward. They can go full offense and don't need to worry about anything.

Sure, shields are a joke compared to a DK who builds for tankiness and health. But at least you have some defense while still being offensive.

Dracane I have to disagree with most of the stuff you just said, until you play a magicka dragonknight you have no idea how frustrating it is, as you mentioned most draonknights run around with annulment and healing ward, this is true because I do too but this is not anything to do with being a dragonknight, every class has access to those specific moves. I admit scales is a very good move against sorcs but that hardly makes up for anything as we don't fight just sorcs all the time do we? everyone jumps on the nightblade bandwagon because they are extremely over powered and only a nightblade would disagree with me there but how you can say that dragonknights are one of the deadliest classes in the game is ludicrously wrong lol

Drdeath20 · August 2016

Dk's seem to have the worst passives, no ranged attacks, no burst and bad skill synergies from magicka.

R4B0N3 · August 2016

dragonknights dont have and real gap closers other then chains but it doesnt work... its so buggy right now there is no disorient moves like sorcs have and nightblades have, its just a poor class, the only way to make it good is going stam and using bow and 2H moves thats it

Dracane · August 2016

Armitas wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Sorc/NB/Temp all have parallel offense/survival/internal sustain. We have no parallel internal sustain because we have to hold our ultimates for a wombo combo because we don't have an execute, our survival is health bases and blows, and our damage is low not because of tool tip scales but because we actually have to build for survival and sustain. (helping hands is perpendicular)

Nah, you don't have to do any of this. You are just forcing yourself into this choice.
Magicka DKs are the strongest shield stackers from a magicka perspective. All good Magicka DKs I see use annulment and healing ward. They can go full offense and don't need to worry about anything.

Sure, shields are a joke compared to a DK who builds for tankiness and health. But at least you have some defense while still being offensive.

mDK's and sorcs both have access to healing ward and annulment. We don't stack those better than sorcs, they are universal skills. Sorcs do shields better because they can supplement them with mobility whereas the mDK is stationary with their shields taking constant damage. You can't go full offense on the mDK and not worry about anything. Even blobskys vid where he is using shields and light armor isn't full offense. He's wearing seducer because he can't handle our sad lack of sustain.

Dracane wrote: »

It's supposed to be a nerf afterall.

Are you seriously asking for mDK nerfs right now?

Oh honey, I know that magicka sustain is horrible. I am suffering just the same.
At least you have battle roar to compensate a bit.

What I was refering to with besrt shieldstackers (from a magicka perspective) is that you have reflective scales. You can completely negate all projectiles, this makes it hard for many people to take your shields down. This is the reason why DKs outperform everyone with shieldstacking.

@R4B0N3 You are right. What I said, is merely my Sorcerer perspective and against Sorcerers, DK is extremely overpowered and needs no buffs. VS all these Nightblade armies..... well I guess it's hard (for magicka DKs at least) They can ignore your reflect and get 0 damage from your dots while cloaked. Sorcs share your faith here. At least Sorcs can attempt a burst combo.

Sweetpea704 · August 2016

Okay, what you need is Valkin Skoria. Then build a DOT Monster. I'm having a fantastic time with my DK right now.

Banana · August 2016

Race change tmrw. That will fix my mDK.

psychotic13 · August 2016

mDKs need an execute, they do have a ranged ability in stone fist or whatever it's called, but it's ***.

R4B0N3 · August 2016

Sweetpea704 wrote: »

Okay, what you need is Valkin Skoria. Then build a DOT Monster. I'm having a fantastic time with my DK right now.

having Valkin Skoria is all well and good but putting that on would lower my already low magicka recovery and my spell damage for an 8% to cause a little firework lol

IxskullzxI · August 2016

Dracane wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Sorc/NB/Temp all have parallel offense/survival/internal sustain. We have no parallel internal sustain because we have to hold our ultimates for a wombo combo because we don't have an execute, our survival is health bases and blows, and our damage is low not because of tool tip scales but because we actually have to build for survival and sustain. (helping hands is perpendicular)

Nah, you don't have to do any of this. You are just forcing yourself into this choice.
Magicka DKs are the strongest shield stackers from a magicka perspective. All good Magicka DKs I see use annulment and healing ward. They can go full offense and don't need to worry about anything.

Sure, shields are a joke compared to a DK who builds for tankiness and health. But at least you have some defense while still being offensive.

mDK's and sorcs both have access to healing ward and annulment. We don't stack those better than sorcs, they are universal skills. Sorcs do shields better because they can supplement them with mobility whereas the mDK is stationary with their shields taking constant damage. You can't go full offense on the mDK and not worry about anything. Even blobskys vid where he is using shields and light armor isn't full offense. He's wearing seducer because he can't handle our sad lack of sustain.

Dracane wrote: »

It's supposed to be a nerf afterall.

Are you seriously asking for mDK nerfs right now?

Oh honey, I know that magicka sustain is horrible. I am suffering just the same.
At least you have battle roar to compensate a bit.

What I was refering to with besrt shieldstackers (from a magicka perspective) is that you have reflective scales. You can completely negate all projectiles, this makes it hard for many people to take your shields down. This is the reason why DKs outperform everyone with shieldstacking.

@R4B0N3 You are right. What I said, is merely my Sorcerer perspective and against Sorcerers, DK is extremely overpowered and needs no buffs. VS all these Nightblade armies..... well I guess it's hard (for magicka DKs at least) They can ignore your reflect and get 0 damage from your dots while cloaked. Sorcs share your faith here. At least Sorcs can attempt a burst combo.

Saying that the dk needs no buffs because you have trouble with them 1v1 as a sorc seems a little selfish, wouldn't you say?

Dracane · August 2016

IxskullzxI wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Sorc/NB/Temp all have parallel offense/survival/internal sustain. We have no parallel internal sustain because we have to hold our ultimates for a wombo combo because we don't have an execute, our survival is health bases and blows, and our damage is low not because of tool tip scales but because we actually have to build for survival and sustain. (helping hands is perpendicular)

Nah, you don't have to do any of this. You are just forcing yourself into this choice.
Magicka DKs are the strongest shield stackers from a magicka perspective. All good Magicka DKs I see use annulment and healing ward. They can go full offense and don't need to worry about anything.

Sure, shields are a joke compared to a DK who builds for tankiness and health. But at least you have some defense while still being offensive.

mDK's and sorcs both have access to healing ward and annulment. We don't stack those better than sorcs, they are universal skills. Sorcs do shields better because they can supplement them with mobility whereas the mDK is stationary with their shields taking constant damage. You can't go full offense on the mDK and not worry about anything. Even blobskys vid where he is using shields and light armor isn't full offense. He's wearing seducer because he can't handle our sad lack of sustain.

Dracane wrote: »

It's supposed to be a nerf afterall.

Are you seriously asking for mDK nerfs right now?

Oh honey, I know that magicka sustain is horrible. I am suffering just the same.
At least you have battle roar to compensate a bit.

What I was refering to with besrt shieldstackers (from a magicka perspective) is that you have reflective scales. You can completely negate all projectiles, this makes it hard for many people to take your shields down. This is the reason why DKs outperform everyone with shieldstacking.

@R4B0N3 You are right. What I said, is merely my Sorcerer perspective and against Sorcerers, DK is extremely overpowered and needs no buffs. VS all these Nightblade armies..... well I guess it's hard (for magicka DKs at least) They can ignore your reflect and get 0 damage from your dots while cloaked. Sorcs share your faith here. At least Sorcs can attempt a burst combo.

Saying that the dk needs no buffs because you have trouble with them 1v1 as a sorc seems a little selfish, wouldn't you say?

It is selfish. But it's a valid concern.
Dk hardcounters Sorcs. Classes must be overall balanced. Can't be that one single ability completely negates so many abilities (Wings>Projectiles)

gefstyle · August 2016

150 ulti cost for banner and i`ll be happier than @ZOS_GinaBruno having a bug free game to represent

Dracane · August 2016

gefstyle wrote: »

150 ulti cost for banner and i`ll be happier than @ZOS_GinaBruno having a bug free game to represent

I agree. The cost of standard is way too high, considering how easy it is to avoid.

Armitas · August 2016

Dracane wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Sorc/NB/Temp all have parallel offense/survival/internal sustain. We have no parallel internal sustain because we have to hold our ultimates for a wombo combo because we don't have an execute, our survival is health bases and blows, and our damage is low not because of tool tip scales but because we actually have to build for survival and sustain. (helping hands is perpendicular)

Nah, you don't have to do any of this. You are just forcing yourself into this choice.
Magicka DKs are the strongest shield stackers from a magicka perspective. All good Magicka DKs I see use annulment and healing ward. They can go full offense and don't need to worry about anything.

Sure, shields are a joke compared to a DK who builds for tankiness and health. But at least you have some defense while still being offensive.

mDK's and sorcs both have access to healing ward and annulment. We don't stack those better than sorcs, they are universal skills. Sorcs do shields better because they can supplement them with mobility whereas the mDK is stationary with their shields taking constant damage. You can't go full offense on the mDK and not worry about anything. Even blobskys vid where he is using shields and light armor isn't full offense. He's wearing seducer because he can't handle our sad lack of sustain.

Dracane wrote: »

It's supposed to be a nerf afterall.

Are you seriously asking for mDK nerfs right now?

Oh honey, I know that magicka sustain is horrible. I am suffering just the same.
At least you have battle roar to compensate a bit.

What I was refering to with besrt shieldstackers (from a magicka perspective) is that you have reflective scales. You can completely negate all projectiles, this makes it hard for many people to take your shields down. This is the reason why DKs outperform everyone with shieldstacking.

@R4B0N3 You are right. What I said, is merely my Sorcerer perspective and against Sorcerers, DK is extremely overpowered and needs no buffs. VS all these Nightblade armies..... well I guess it's hard (for magicka DKs at least) They can ignore your reflect and get 0 damage from your dots while cloaked. Sorcs share your faith here. At least Sorcs can attempt a burst combo.

Are you not using a lightning staff? How much damage is this dk going to do stacking a shield at every 3 seconds and a reflect at every 4 while trying to keep dots on you and build powerlashes? Save your fragproc, at the end of the reflect timer curse, streak, frag, overload. There are so many ways to play against reflect as a sorc.

IxskullzxI · August 2016

Dracane wrote: »

IxskullzxI wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Sorc/NB/Temp all have parallel offense/survival/internal sustain. We have no parallel internal sustain because we have to hold our ultimates for a wombo combo because we don't have an execute, our survival is health bases and blows, and our damage is low not because of tool tip scales but because we actually have to build for survival and sustain. (helping hands is perpendicular)

Nah, you don't have to do any of this. You are just forcing yourself into this choice.
Magicka DKs are the strongest shield stackers from a magicka perspective. All good Magicka DKs I see use annulment and healing ward. They can go full offense and don't need to worry about anything.

Sure, shields are a joke compared to a DK who builds for tankiness and health. But at least you have some defense while still being offensive.

mDK's and sorcs both have access to healing ward and annulment. We don't stack those better than sorcs, they are universal skills. Sorcs do shields better because they can supplement them with mobility whereas the mDK is stationary with their shields taking constant damage. You can't go full offense on the mDK and not worry about anything. Even blobskys vid where he is using shields and light armor isn't full offense. He's wearing seducer because he can't handle our sad lack of sustain.

Dracane wrote: »

It's supposed to be a nerf afterall.

Are you seriously asking for mDK nerfs right now?

Oh honey, I know that magicka sustain is horrible. I am suffering just the same.
At least you have battle roar to compensate a bit.

What I was refering to with besrt shieldstackers (from a magicka perspective) is that you have reflective scales. You can completely negate all projectiles, this makes it hard for many people to take your shields down. This is the reason why DKs outperform everyone with shieldstacking.

@R4B0N3 You are right. What I said, is merely my Sorcerer perspective and against Sorcerers, DK is extremely overpowered and needs no buffs. VS all these Nightblade armies..... well I guess it's hard (for magicka DKs at least) They can ignore your reflect and get 0 damage from your dots while cloaked. Sorcs share your faith here. At least Sorcs can attempt a burst combo.

Saying that the dk needs no buffs because you have trouble with them 1v1 as a sorc seems a little selfish, wouldn't you say?

It is selfish. But it's a valid concern.
Dk hardcounters Sorcs. Classes must be overall balanced. Can't be that one single ability completely negates so many abilities (Wings>Projectiles)

Just because the dk has reflect doesn't mean you can't do anything against it as a sorc though.. You can do more than just spam frags.

AverageJo3Gam3r · August 2016

@Dracane this is strictly a L2P issue for you. I can make the exact same argument that you are--sorcs are a hard counter to mDKs because all out attacks are melee range and you have mines. As long as you sit in mines (that last 30 seconds compared to 4 seconds on wings), I cannot kill you.

Here's some tips from a mDK on how to beat a mDK as a sorc. First of all, if they're only spamming wings, they will run out of magic. It's expensive to keep up all the time. Second, light attacks count, and crushing shock is three projectiles. Velocious curse goes through it, as does both flavors of magicka det if you use that. So the way you burst a mDK is sit in your mines and poke them with a light attack, crushing shock periodically. Put just enough pressure that they maintain wings. With a frag procced, watch for the wings animation. Hit them with a curse then count to three (remember, wings only lasts 4 seconds), streak through them to stun them, then proceed to burst them with frags, wrath, and DBoS.

Dracane · August 2016

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

@Dracane this is strictly a L2P issue for you. I can make the exact same argument that you are--sorcs are a hard counter to mDKs because all out attacks are melee range and you have mines. As long as you sit in mines (that last 30 seconds compared to 4 seconds on wings), I cannot kill you.

Here's some tips from a mDK on how to beat a mDK as a sorc. First of all, if they're only spamming wings, they will run out of magic. It's expensive to keep up all the time. Second, light attacks count, and crushing shock is three projectiles. Velocious curse goes through it, as does both flavors of magicka det if you use that. So the way you burst a mDK is sit in your mines and poke them with a light attack, crushing shock periodically. Put just enough pressure that they maintain wings. With a frag procced, watch for the wings animation. Hit them with a curse then count to three (remember, wings only lasts 4 seconds), streak through them to stun them, then proceed to burst them with frags, wrath, and DBoS.

This is a L2P issue for YOU then. If a few mines completely disable you, then this is your imagination that blocks you out.
You can still attack me if you want when I stand in mines. But I can't do anything against you when you have wings up. The range of flame lash is 8 meters for example, you don't even have to enter the mines to do all your attacks. So please, don't get me started on mines. They do nothing

I will wait for you to let them wings down, which requires you to make a mistake. And then my only chance is to burst you down from 100% to 0 within the split of a second until you break free and this is fairly hard.
But there are many players who eat mines like candy, because mines are completely overrestimated.

Bashev · August 2016

Dracane wrote: »

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

@Dracane this is strictly a L2P issue for you. I can make the exact same argument that you are--sorcs are a hard counter to mDKs because all out attacks are melee range and you have mines. As long as you sit in mines (that last 30 seconds compared to 4 seconds on wings), I cannot kill you.

Here's some tips from a mDK on how to beat a mDK as a sorc. First of all, if they're only spamming wings, they will run out of magic. It's expensive to keep up all the time. Second, light attacks count, and crushing shock is three projectiles. Velocious curse goes through it, as does both flavors of magicka det if you use that. So the way you burst a mDK is sit in your mines and poke them with a light attack, crushing shock periodically. Put just enough pressure that they maintain wings. With a frag procced, watch for the wings animation. Hit them with a curse then count to three (remember, wings only lasts 4 seconds), streak through them to stun them, then proceed to burst them with frags, wrath, and DBoS.

This is a L2P issue for YOU then. If a few mines completely disable you, then this is your imagination that blocks you out.
You can still attack me if you want when I stand in mines. But I can't do anything against you when you have wings up.

I will wait for you to let them wings down, which requires you to make a mistake. And then my only chance is to burst you down from 100% to 0 within the split of a second until you break free and this is fairly hard.
But there are many players who eat mines like candy, because mines are completely overrestimated.

You still can attack a DK even when wings are up. How many Sorc skills are reflectable, 2? Shards and Overloard. You can use other skills too.

Moglijuana · August 2016

Armitas wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

Sorc/NB/Temp all have parallel offense/survival/internal sustain. We have no parallel internal sustain because we have to hold our ultimates for a wombo combo because we don't have an execute, our survival is health bases and blows, and our damage is low not because of tool tip scales but because we actually have to build for survival and sustain. (helping hands is perpendicular)

Nah, you don't have to do any of this. You are just forcing yourself into this choice.
Magicka DKs are the strongest shield stackers from a magicka perspective. All good Magicka DKs I see use annulment and healing ward. They can go full offense and don't need to worry about anything.

Sure, shields are a joke compared to a DK who builds for tankiness and health. But at least you have some defense while still being offensive.

mDK's and sorcs both have access to healing ward and annulment. We don't stack those better than sorcs, they are universal skills. Sorcs do shields better because they can supplement them with mobility whereas the mDK is stationary with their shields taking constant damage. You can't go full offense on the mDK and not worry about anything. Even blobskys vid where he is using shields and light armor isn't full offense. He's wearing seducer because he can't handle our sad lack of sustain.

Dracane wrote: »

It's supposed to be a nerf afterall.

Are you seriously asking for mDK nerfs right now?

Oh honey, I know that magicka sustain is horrible. I am suffering just the same.
At least you have battle roar to compensate a bit.

What I was refering to with besrt shieldstackers (from a magicka perspective) is that you have reflective scales. You can completely negate all projectiles, this makes it hard for many people to take your shields down. This is the reason why DKs outperform everyone with shieldstacking.

@R4B0N3 You are right. What I said, is merely my Sorcerer perspective and against Sorcerers, DK is extremely overpowered and needs no buffs. VS all these Nightblade armies..... well I guess it's hard (for magicka DKs at least) They can ignore your reflect and get 0 damage from your dots while cloaked. Sorcs share your faith here. At least Sorcs can attempt a burst combo.

Are you not using a lightning staff? How much damage is this dk going to do stacking a shield at every 3 seconds and a reflect at every 4 while trying to keep dots on you and build powerlashes? Save your fragproc, at the end of the reflect timer curse, streak, frag, overload. There are so many ways to play against reflect as a sorc.

I think it's rather cute that someone is complaining about Magicka DK lolololol. Someone needs to learn how to sorc correctly.

Dracane · August 2016

Bashev wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

@Dracane this is strictly a L2P issue for you. I can make the exact same argument that you are--sorcs are a hard counter to mDKs because all out attacks are melee range and you have mines. As long as you sit in mines (that last 30 seconds compared to 4 seconds on wings), I cannot kill you.

Here's some tips from a mDK on how to beat a mDK as a sorc. First of all, if they're only spamming wings, they will run out of magic. It's expensive to keep up all the time. Second, light attacks count, and crushing shock is three projectiles. Velocious curse goes through it, as does both flavors of magicka det if you use that. So the way you burst a mDK is sit in your mines and poke them with a light attack, crushing shock periodically. Put just enough pressure that they maintain wings. With a frag procced, watch for the wings animation. Hit them with a curse then count to three (remember, wings only lasts 4 seconds), streak through them to stun them, then proceed to burst them with frags, wrath, and DBoS.

This is a L2P issue for YOU then. If a few mines completely disable you, then this is your imagination that blocks you out.
You can still attack me if you want when I stand in mines. But I can't do anything against you when you have wings up.

I will wait for you to let them wings down, which requires you to make a mistake. And then my only chance is to burst you down from 100% to 0 within the split of a second until you break free and this is fairly hard.
But there are many players who eat mines like candy, because mines are completely overrestimated.

You still can attack a DK even when wings are up. How many Sorc skills are reflectable, 2? Shards and Overloard. You can use other skills too.

Shard, force shock. My 2 most important attacks and both get completely negated and

Moglijuana wrote: »

I think it's rather cute that someone is complaining about Magicka DK lolololol. Someone needs to learn how to sorc correctly.

Ah, so you confess, that Sorcs are giving you hard times

Maybe someone needs to learn how to Draco around correctly.
As long as you have wings active, no Sorcerer is going to kill you. You're telling me it's hard to refresh an ability every 4 seconds that offers you immunity against a huge amount of abilities in the game ?

Please don't accuse me of L2P.
I agree that Magicka Dk can have hard times against all melee classes (defensive wise) but completely negating an entire class is a big thing in my opinion.