Lightninvash wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

Or there are baby dragons but no one has seen them because they are in hiding. Nothing gets created by nothing just to poof into thin air. There is always a birthing process and growth.

The Elder Scrolls' dragons did.

This is like saying you want to find a baby robot and tame it. Not gonna happen.

well there are the constructs... which are robots technically. and we all know engine guardian tames one of them kind of

It's heavily implied that Dwemer constructs use soul gems as their processing core, meaning they're powered and controlled, in part, by a bound soul. You do actually have a better chance of finding a Dwemer Spider and taming it. Though even that's pretty questionable.

ScottK1994 wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

ScottK1994 wrote: »

I think it will happen eventually as a trial boss, it will be just one Dragon though. Apparently in the timeline they're extremely rare and purposefully keeping out of sight

One as a trial boss? I can see that.

I am sure there's maybe one or two in lore around at this time.

Not for riding though.

It would have to be a baby Dragon for a mount and that would be cruel anyway:P

Again, there are no baby dragons. That's like saying you expect to find a baby car.

To be clear, it is possible for characters in The Elder Scrolls to have dragon allies, and even to ride them. You can't "tame" them, but you can potentially convince one that you're more than an annoyance. The problem is, the soul shriven do not meet the prerequisites, and that's something you cannot change. Just ask The Prophet how it went over the last time someone tried to become Dragonborn by force.

starkerealm wrote: »

ScottK1994 wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

ScottK1994 wrote: »

I think it will happen eventually as a trial boss, it will be just one Dragon though. Apparently in the timeline they're extremely rare and purposefully keeping out of sight

One as a trial boss? I can see that.

I am sure there's maybe one or two in lore around at this time.

Not for riding though.

It would have to be a baby Dragon for a mount and that would be cruel anyway:P

Again, there are no baby dragons. That's like saying you expect to find a baby car.

there are baby cars look at the mini cooper and they make mini cars for kids now so you can find them

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

The trial boss could drop a dragon mount!

No.

Why?

Because you don't know how to shout.

I can yell all day, what does that have to do with my dragon mount?

Yeah, but you can't shout. It's not the same thing.

How are yelling and shouting not the same thing? And what does it have to do with my dragon?

You can't shout; you can't communicate with a dragon. And, no, I don't mean yelling, I mean actually speaking in the dragon language.

If you really want to sort this out, and play the kind of character who can ride a dragon, then you need to go play Skyrim.

and if we wanted to play skyrim we would we want a ride able dragon in eso obviously lmao not skyrim. Why is that the common consensus oh you want dragons go play skyrim... no we don't want to play skyrim or we would be playing it not requesting dragons in eso... that is not a valid solution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8dD1PfMRNM

Lightninvash wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

ScottK1994 wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

ScottK1994 wrote: »

I think it will happen eventually as a trial boss, it will be just one Dragon though. Apparently in the timeline they're extremely rare and purposefully keeping out of sight

One as a trial boss? I can see that.

I am sure there's maybe one or two in lore around at this time.

Not for riding though.

It would have to be a baby Dragon for a mount and that would be cruel anyway:P

Again, there are no baby dragons. That's like saying you expect to find a baby car.

there are baby cars look at the mini cooper and they make mini cars for kids now so you can find them

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

The trial boss could drop a dragon mount!

No.

Why?

Because you don't know how to shout.

I can yell all day, what does that have to do with my dragon mount?

Yeah, but you can't shout. It's not the same thing.

How are yelling and shouting not the same thing? And what does it have to do with my dragon?

You can't shout; you can't communicate with a dragon. And, no, I don't mean yelling, I mean actually speaking in the dragon language.

If you really want to sort this out, and play the kind of character who can ride a dragon, then you need to go play Skyrim.

and if we wanted to play skyrim we would we want a ride able dragon in eso obviously lmao not skyrim. Why is that the common consensus oh you want dragons go play skyrim... no we don't want to play skyrim or we would be playing it not requesting dragons in eso... that is not a valid solution

The only game that has dragons in large numbers is Skyrim. In ESO's time, the large majority of the dragons are dead, killed by the dragonguard, or in hiding because of the dragonguard.

Dragons (drah-gkon and dov-rha to the ancient Nords, or dov in their native language) are large flying reptilian creatures that are encountered in Skyrim. They are immortal, highly intelligent, and have an affinity for magic, and were once even worshipped by the ancient Nordic people.

Dragons, being dragons, embraced their role as god-kings over men. After all, were they not fashioned in Akatosh's own image? Were they not superior in every way to the hordes of small, soft creatures that worshipped them? For dragons, power equals truth. They had the power, so therefore it must be truth. Dragons granted small amounts of power to the dragon priests in exchange for absolute obedience. In turn, the dragon priests ruled men as equals to the kings. Dragons, of course, could not be bothered with actually ruling.

There is no credible story of how dragons came to be. According to dremora that the College of Whispers have "questioned," they just were, and are. Eternal, immortal, unchanging, and unyielding. They are not born or hatched. They do not mate or breed. There are no known examples of dragon eggs or dragonlings. The Iliac Bay area has stories of such things, but so far all have proven false. The eggs turned out to be eggs of other reptiles. The small dragons were merely oversized lizards and no relation to true dragons.
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:The_Dragon_War
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:There_Be_Dragons

Dragons aren't mounts. Dragons don't have "baby dragons". There IS no valid solution you would accept in ESO.

Lightninvash wrote: »

I'm sure there are others who have rode dragons other than a dragon born.

There aren't.

I don't mean, "we haven't seen them," or "there's nothing supporting that idea," I mean, no, there are not.

Lightninvash wrote: »

I mean there are others who learned how to shout that aren't dragon born. So how it is not feasible that someone could learn to ride a dragon?

Non-Dragonborn can spend decades of to learn the simplest shouts. To actually learn a dragon's name, so they can call it could take at least fifteen years, and probably thirty or forty. It's not something a character just decides to pick up one day. It's also not like a normal non-magical language. Learning each word takes years of constant study and meditation. In the end it leaves those who practice the art unable to communicate without shouting, and as self-imposed mutes, to prevent the potential damage.

Dragons and Dragonborn don't face either of these issues, but for mortals, it's a serious problem.

Lightninvash wrote: »

there are baby cars look at the mini cooper and they make mini cars for kids now so you can find them

Very funny.

Lightninvash wrote: »

and if we wanted to play skyrim we would we want a ride able dragon in eso obviously lmao not skyrim. Why is that the common consensus oh you want dragons go play skyrim... no we don't want to play skyrim or we would be playing it not requesting dragons in eso... that is not a valid solution

The issue is that Skyrim has you playing a fundamentally different kind of being from ESO. If you want to play an individual wandering Tamriel with the power to compel dragons and bend them to their will, that's Skyrim, not ESO. If you want to play a near daedra who can't be killed, then that's ESO.

At ESO's point in time, there are 2 and only 2 dragons in existence. Neither are known to the outside world.
One is Paarthurnax, he's living at the of the Throat of the World above High Hrothgar. Good luck getting up there, since you'll need to learn the shout Clear Skies to reach the summit. Providing the Greybeards will actually deem you worthy enough to teach it to you. And I'm sure the Greybeards aren't going to be too excited about having a hoard of players running up to their mountain retreat. Most likely they'll just blast the players up the mountain side using dragon shouts. Ok, this was the easy dragon to find.
The other dragon is the undead dragon Durnehviir who hangs around in the Soul Cairn. Lord Harkon's castle is not on the map yet, so how one would get to the Soul Cairn at this time is beyond me. However if you should find an entrance to the Soul Cairn, you either need to not have a soul, (more people will have fought Malog Bal and recovered their soul before finding this place), or you can be a vampire. Once inside there are a hoard of undead waiting to entertain you plus a few dragon priest like deadra you have to kill just to get Durnehviir's attention. But since you're not the dragonborn, he'll most likely just kill you instead of talking to you.

I don't think we'll be seeing dragons any time soon.

JD2013 wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

ScottK1994 wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

ScottK1994 wrote: »

I think it will happen eventually as a trial boss, it will be just one Dragon though. Apparently in the timeline they're extremely rare and purposefully keeping out of sight

One as a trial boss? I can see that.

I am sure there's maybe one or two in lore around at this time.

Not for riding though.

It would have to be a baby Dragon for a mount and that would be cruel anyway:P

Again, there are no baby dragons. That's like saying you expect to find a baby car.

there are baby cars look at the mini cooper and they make mini cars for kids now so you can find them

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

The trial boss could drop a dragon mount!

No.

Why?

Because you don't know how to shout.

I can yell all day, what does that have to do with my dragon mount?

Yeah, but you can't shout. It's not the same thing.

How are yelling and shouting not the same thing? And what does it have to do with my dragon?

You can't shout; you can't communicate with a dragon. And, no, I don't mean yelling, I mean actually speaking in the dragon language.

If you really want to sort this out, and play the kind of character who can ride a dragon, then you need to go play Skyrim.

and if we wanted to play skyrim we would we want a ride able dragon in eso obviously lmao not skyrim. Why is that the common consensus oh you want dragons go play skyrim... no we don't want to play skyrim or we would be playing it not requesting dragons in eso... that is not a valid solution

The thing you aren't understanding is that it takes a Dragonborn, who speaks the language of the dragons to be able to ride a dragon temporarily. There are no known Dragonborns in this era, and The Vestige certainly isn't one.

The closest we have to dragons here is the Daedric Titans, who were created by Molag Bal from a dragon he captured, tortured and used the skeleton of.

I'm sure there are others who have rode dragons other than a dragon born. I mean there are others who learned how to shout that aren't dragon born. So how it is not feasible that someone could learn to ride a dragon?

I agree that there's a few outside of the Dragonborn who learned the language. Through many many years of study most likely. If you want to spend years in game sitting and reading to develop this skill, all good.

As for others who have ridden a dragon . . . None that I've ever heard of.

You won't listen to the fact that it's incorrect lore wise, and you won't listen to the fact that this game isn't coded for flying mounts, so we have reached an impasse. I bow out. Peace!

@JD2013 I do not want flying mounts!!! I have stated several times no flying just a dragon lmao. read more bud

starkerealm wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

there are baby cars look at the mini cooper and they make mini cars for kids now so you can find them

Very funny.

Lightninvash wrote: »

and if we wanted to play skyrim we would we want a ride able dragon in eso obviously lmao not skyrim. Why is that the common consensus oh you want dragons go play skyrim... no we don't want to play skyrim or we would be playing it not requesting dragons in eso... that is not a valid solution

The issue is that Skyrim has you playing a fundamentally different kind of being from ESO. If you want to play an individual wandering Tamriel with the power to compel dragons and bend them to their will, that's Skyrim, not ESO. If you want to play a near daedra who can't be killed, then that's ESO.

as being a near daedra we cant be killed so we could confront a dragon and bend its will eventually

This thread has gone on pretty long for having started with an obvious troll post by someone who has been around these forums for a while. Well played good sir.

starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »

At ESO's point in time, there are 2 and only 2 dragons in existence. Neither are known to the outside world.
One is Paarthurnax, he's living at the of the Throat of the World above High Hrothgar. Good luck getting up there, since you'll need to learn the shout Clear Skies to reach the summit. Providing the Greybeards will actually deem you worthy enough to teach it to you. And I'm sure the Greybeards aren't going to be too excited about having a hoard of players running up to their mountain retreat. Most likely they'll just blast the players up the mountain side using dragon shouts. Ok, this was the easy dragon to find.
The other dragon is the undead dragon Durnehviir who hangs around in the Soul Cairn. Lord Harkon's castle is not on the map yet, so how one would get to the Soul Cairn at this time is beyond me. However if you should find an entrance to the Soul Cairn, you either need to not have a soul, (more people will have fought Malog Bal and recovered their soul before finding this place), or you can be a vampire. Once inside there are a hoard of undead waiting to entertain you plus a few dragon priest like deadra you have to kill just to get Durnehviir's attention. But since you're not the dragonborn, he'll most likely just kill you instead of talking to you.

I don't think we'll be seeing dragons any time soon.

JKorr wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

ScottK1994 wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

ScottK1994 wrote: »

I think it will happen eventually as a trial boss, it will be just one Dragon though. Apparently in the timeline they're extremely rare and purposefully keeping out of sight

One as a trial boss? I can see that.

I am sure there's maybe one or two in lore around at this time.

Not for riding though.

It would have to be a baby Dragon for a mount and that would be cruel anyway:P

Again, there are no baby dragons. That's like saying you expect to find a baby car.

there are baby cars look at the mini cooper and they make mini cars for kids now so you can find them

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

The trial boss could drop a dragon mount!

No.

Why?

Because you don't know how to shout.

I can yell all day, what does that have to do with my dragon mount?

Yeah, but you can't shout. It's not the same thing.

How are yelling and shouting not the same thing? And what does it have to do with my dragon?

You can't shout; you can't communicate with a dragon. And, no, I don't mean yelling, I mean actually speaking in the dragon language.

If you really want to sort this out, and play the kind of character who can ride a dragon, then you need to go play Skyrim.

and if we wanted to play skyrim we would we want a ride able dragon in eso obviously lmao not skyrim. Why is that the common consensus oh you want dragons go play skyrim... no we don't want to play skyrim or we would be playing it not requesting dragons in eso... that is not a valid solution

The thing you aren't understanding is that it takes a Dragonborn, who speaks the language of the dragons to be able to ride a dragon temporarily. There are no known Dragonborns in this era, and The Vestige certainly isn't one.

The closest we have to dragons here is the Daedric Titans, who were created by Molag Bal from a dragon he captured, tortured and used the skeleton of.

I'm sure there are others who have rode dragons other than a dragon born. I mean there are others who learned how to shout that aren't dragon born. So how it is not feasible that someone could learn to ride a dragon?

Dragons respect power. While there are others who have spent their lives studying the Thuum. how many of them are capable of impressing a dragon by defeating it in combat/discussion? The one the Dragonborn gets a ride from is not only working a deal to get free, he wants to see whether the dragonborn is strong enough to go up against Alduin. Even then, you don't get free rides forever; you get an offer to help fight. It wasn't until Miraak that riding dragons was possible; even then you really don't have much control over them outside of Mora's realm.

Well they couldn't kill us as it is now so we would earn it one way or another

JKorr wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

ScottK1994 wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

ScottK1994 wrote: »

I think it will happen eventually as a trial boss, it will be just one Dragon though. Apparently in the timeline they're extremely rare and purposefully keeping out of sight

One as a trial boss? I can see that.

I am sure there's maybe one or two in lore around at this time.

Not for riding though.

It would have to be a baby Dragon for a mount and that would be cruel anyway:P

Again, there are no baby dragons. That's like saying you expect to find a baby car.

there are baby cars look at the mini cooper and they make mini cars for kids now so you can find them

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

The trial boss could drop a dragon mount!

No.

Why?

Because you don't know how to shout.

I can yell all day, what does that have to do with my dragon mount?

Yeah, but you can't shout. It's not the same thing.

How are yelling and shouting not the same thing? And what does it have to do with my dragon?

You can't shout; you can't communicate with a dragon. And, no, I don't mean yelling, I mean actually speaking in the dragon language.

If you really want to sort this out, and play the kind of character who can ride a dragon, then you need to go play Skyrim.

and if we wanted to play skyrim we would we want a ride able dragon in eso obviously lmao not skyrim. Why is that the common consensus oh you want dragons go play skyrim... no we don't want to play skyrim or we would be playing it not requesting dragons in eso... that is not a valid solution

The thing you aren't understanding is that it takes a Dragonborn, who speaks the language of the dragons to be able to ride a dragon temporarily. There are no known Dragonborns in this era, and The Vestige certainly isn't one.

The closest we have to dragons here is the Daedric Titans, who were created by Molag Bal from a dragon he captured, tortured and used the skeleton of.

I'm sure there are others who have rode dragons other than a dragon born. I mean there are others who learned how to shout that aren't dragon born. So how it is not feasible that someone could learn to ride a dragon?

I agree that there's a few outside of the Dragonborn who learned the language. Through many many years of study most likely. If you want to spend years in game sitting and reading to develop this skill, all good.

As for others who have ridden a dragon . . . None that I've ever heard of.

You won't listen to the fact that it's incorrect lore wise, and you won't listen to the fact that this game isn't coded for flying mounts, so we have reached an impasse. I bow out. Peace!

@JD2013 I do not want flying mounts!!! I have stated several times no flying just a dragon lmao. read more bud

starkerealm wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

there are baby cars look at the mini cooper and they make mini cars for kids now so you can find them

Very funny.

Lightninvash wrote: »

and if we wanted to play skyrim we would we want a ride able dragon in eso obviously lmao not skyrim. Why is that the common consensus oh you want dragons go play skyrim... no we don't want to play skyrim or we would be playing it not requesting dragons in eso... that is not a valid solution

The issue is that Skyrim has you playing a fundamentally different kind of being from ESO. If you want to play an individual wandering Tamriel with the power to compel dragons and bend them to their will, that's Skyrim, not ESO. If you want to play a near daedra who can't be killed, then that's ESO.

as being a near daedra we cant be killed so we could confront a dragon and bend its will eventually

We can't be killed permanently. We can be killed. You planning on annoying the dragon into submission? Maybe eventually having us come back over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over will make the dragon tired of killing us. So ir would just ignore us. Or it would just leave. Cause dragons fly. And they ruled over us for eons. They aren't going to let their slaves order them around.

It's also distinctly possible they could sever the Vestige's link to Cold Harbour/The Colored Rooms. These are still aedric creatures we're talking about, and they're much more creative than they appear.