Magicka DK Build - HUGE damage | Dark Brotherhood patch

leepalmer95 · July 2016

Etaniel wrote: »

diamanda wrote: »

что за говнобилд, еще похуже чем последний билд сайфера.

Google translate tells me : "that for govnobild , even worse than the last build of Cypher"

I think he doesn't like it

Didn't know you was a interpreter.

Tsar_Bogatyr · July 2016

Ishammael wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

@sharee your only chance against a full stamblade assault is to fossilize+immovable pot before they can get their opening burst off. If you can do this, you can mitigate most of their opening burst through blocking/shields/mist form. Since these are low regen builds, you can outlast them. It's really hard to kill them though because they have cloak, higher mobility, better healing, and shuffle than a mDK does.

StamNB will never run out of resources 1v1.

Indeed.

The only way to win the fight is a fossilize-meteor-whip-exhale combo. And you have to pray that nothing is dodged via shuffle.

the fact that there is an exhale in ur "combo" makes me laugh like hell

Ishammael · July 2016

Tsar_Bogatyr wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

@sharee your only chance against a full stamblade assault is to fossilize+immovable pot before they can get their opening burst off. If you can do this, you can mitigate most of their opening burst through blocking/shields/mist form. Since these are low regen builds, you can outlast them. It's really hard to kill them though because they have cloak, higher mobility, better healing, and shuffle than a mDK does.

StamNB will never run out of resources 1v1.

Indeed.

The only way to win the fight is a fossilize-meteor-whip-exhale combo. And you have to pray that nothing is dodged via shuffle.

the fact that there is an exhale in ur "combo" makes me laugh like hell

????
MDKs don't have a ton of options

lynog85 · July 2016

This set up does not have huge damage.

Lokey0024 · July 2016

lynog85 wrote: »

No MDK set ups have huge damage.

Fixed

Ghost-Shot · July 2016

Tsar_Bogatyr wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

@sharee your only chance against a full stamblade assault is to fossilize+immovable pot before they can get their opening burst off. If you can do this, you can mitigate most of their opening burst through blocking/shields/mist form. Since these are low regen builds, you can outlast them. It's really hard to kill them though because they have cloak, higher mobility, better healing, and shuffle than a mDK does.

StamNB will never run out of resources 1v1.

Indeed.

The only way to win the fight is a fossilize-meteor-whip-exhale combo. And you have to pray that nothing is dodged via shuffle.

the fact that there is an exhale in ur "combo" makes me laugh like hell

That's literally what the DK burst combo is, embers>inhale>meteor>fossilize>whip, maybe squeeze in an engulfing if you have it. You must be new.

Tsar_Bogatyr · July 2016

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Tsar_Bogatyr wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

@sharee your only chance against a full stamblade assault is to fossilize+immovable pot before they can get their opening burst off. If you can do this, you can mitigate most of their opening burst through blocking/shields/mist form. Since these are low regen builds, you can outlast them. It's really hard to kill them though because they have cloak, higher mobility, better healing, and shuffle than a mDK does.

StamNB will never run out of resources 1v1.

Indeed.

The only way to win the fight is a fossilize-meteor-whip-exhale combo. And you have to pray that nothing is dodged via shuffle.

the fact that there is an exhale in ur "combo" makes me laugh like hell

That's literally what the DK burst combo is, embers>inhale>meteor>fossilize>whip, maybe squeeze in an engulfing if you have it. You must be new.

i betyou like to hold down right click alot

Sanct16 · July 2016

Tsar_Bogatyr wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Tsar_Bogatyr wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

@sharee your only chance against a full stamblade assault is to fossilize+immovable pot before they can get their opening burst off. If you can do this, you can mitigate most of their opening burst through blocking/shields/mist form. Since these are low regen builds, you can outlast them. It's really hard to kill them though because they have cloak, higher mobility, better healing, and shuffle than a mDK does.

StamNB will never run out of resources 1v1.

Indeed.

The only way to win the fight is a fossilize-meteor-whip-exhale combo. And you have to pray that nothing is dodged via shuffle.

the fact that there is an exhale in ur "combo" makes me laugh like hell

That's literally what the DK burst combo is, embers>inhale>meteor>fossilize>whip, maybe squeeze in an engulfing if you have it. You must be new.

i betyou like to hold down right click alot

I bet you like to Xv1 people.

ZoM_Head · July 2016

Blobs, the 22 points invested in errosion gives you less spell penetration than running 1 sharpened epic sword/1H weapon.

Defending is a good option...for tanks in pve or on a back bar but main bar sharpened + light is really very hard to say no to.

Armitas · July 2016

ZoM_Head wrote: »

Blobs, the 22 points invested in errosion gives you less spell penetration than running 1 sharpened epic sword/1H weapon.

Yeah, I found it became really inefficient quickly for the cp. If you pve on your toon it winds up being over pen in a trial, and it doesn't help against shields which are fairly prominent in PvP and goes beyond just sorcs. Its great on someone without shields but falls behind when you meet someone with shields

Ishammael · July 2016

Tsar_Bogatyr wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Tsar_Bogatyr wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

@sharee your only chance against a full stamblade assault is to fossilize+immovable pot before they can get their opening burst off. If you can do this, you can mitigate most of their opening burst through blocking/shields/mist form. Since these are low regen builds, you can outlast them. It's really hard to kill them though because they have cloak, higher mobility, better healing, and shuffle than a mDK does.

StamNB will never run out of resources 1v1.

Indeed.

The only way to win the fight is a fossilize-meteor-whip-exhale combo. And you have to pray that nothing is dodged via shuffle.

the fact that there is an exhale in ur "combo" makes me laugh like hell

That's literally what the DK burst combo is, embers>inhale>meteor>fossilize>whip, maybe squeeze in an engulfing if you have it. You must be new.

i betyou like to hold down right click alot

I pretty much play one handed

Ghost-Shot · July 2016

Tsar_Bogatyr wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Tsar_Bogatyr wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

@sharee your only chance against a full stamblade assault is to fossilize+immovable pot before they can get their opening burst off. If you can do this, you can mitigate most of their opening burst through blocking/shields/mist form. Since these are low regen builds, you can outlast them. It's really hard to kill them though because they have cloak, higher mobility, better healing, and shuffle than a mDK does.

StamNB will never run out of resources 1v1.

Indeed.

The only way to win the fight is a fossilize-meteor-whip-exhale combo. And you have to pray that nothing is dodged via shuffle.

the fact that there is an exhale in ur "combo" makes me laugh like hell

That's literally what the DK burst combo is, embers>inhale>meteor>fossilize>whip, maybe squeeze in an engulfing if you have it. You must be new.

i betyou like to hold down right click alot

Just long enough to get that 350 extra spell damage

but if you want to continue being bad then be my guest, I like free AP!

Blobsky · July 2016

Sanct16 wrote: »

"Huge Damage" DK: Embers, Engulfing, Talons, Whip, Petrify, Whip, Whip, Whip, Whip, Embers, Engulfing, Meteor, Petrify, Whip, Whip, Whip...

Meanwhile on Stam NB: Poison Injection, Ambush, Incap, Executioner, Kill.
You wanna know what's funny about this? When you get attacked by multiple people you'll probably survive longer on Stam NB than on Mag Dk...

nope

Blobsky · July 2016

Ishammael wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

@sharee your only chance against a full stamblade assault is to fossilize+immovable pot before they can get their opening burst off. If you can do this, you can mitigate most of their opening burst through blocking/shields/mist form. Since these are low regen builds, you can outlast them. It's really hard to kill them though because they have cloak, higher mobility, better healing, and shuffle than a mDK does.

StamNB will never run out of resources 1v1.

Indeed.

The only way to win the fight is a fossilize-meteor-whip-exhale combo. And you have to pray that nothing is dodged via shuffle.

Wait until 1vX released

Blobsky · July 2016

lynog85 wrote: »

This set up does not have huge damage.

Yes, it does - you will see, penetration dominates over damage atm for magicka

Blobsky · July 2016

ZoM_Head wrote: »

Blobs, the 22 points invested in errosion gives you less spell penetration than running 1 sharpened epic sword/1H weapon.

Defending is a good option...for tanks in pve or on a back bar but main bar sharpened + light is really very hard to say no to.

1vX defending is worth it significantly - the points in erosion are compensation. Light armour penetration is the advantage. Overall it has the same resistances but far more penetration

IxskullzxI · July 2016

Far more penetration than what? A heavy armor build? Then yes. This build has less penetration than any other build running light armor with a sharpened 1h.

Ryuho · July 2016

Sanct16 wrote: »

"Huge Damage" DK: Embers, Engulfing, Talons, Whip, Petrify, Whip, Whip, Whip, Whip, Embers, Engulfing, Meteor, Petrify, Whip, Whip, Whip...

Meanwhile on Stam NB: Poison Injection, Ambush, Incap, Executioner, Kill.
You wanna know what's funny about this? When you get attacked by multiple people you'll probably survive longer on Stam NB than on Mag Dk...

Sadly but that's true.. I am waiting for race change, so I can turn my breton DK into something stamina friendly..

lynog85 · July 2016

Blobsky wrote: »

lynog85 wrote: »

This set up does not have huge damage.

Yes, it does - you will see, penetration dominates over damage atm for magicka

Mate , I've ran this exact build plus multiple others on magic DK. NONE do huge damage. Literally none. Some do OK damage for Magic DK builds. That's about it. The whole class needs a rethink.

IxSTALKERxI · July 2016

Nice build blob. Did you mean huge sustain though?

Hyssia · July 2016

lynog85 wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

lynog85 wrote: »

This set up does not have huge damage.

Yes, it does - you will see, penetration dominates over damage atm for magicka

Mate , I've ran this exact build plus multiple others on magic DK. NONE do huge damage. Literally none. Some do OK damage for Magic DK builds. That's about it. The whole class needs a rethink.

Or a skilled player

/thread

AverageJo3Gam3r · July 2016

@Hyssia it's well established by many good players that mDK underperforms in solo open world compared to other classes. In solo open world, there is literally no advantages that a mDK brings to the table compared to other classes. Group play? Yes, mDK is fine. But solo open world is not a L2P issue.

Tsar_Bogatyr · July 2016

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

@Hyssia it's well established by many good players that mDK underperforms in solo open world compared to other classes. In solo open world, there is literally no advantages that a mDK brings to the table compared to other classes. Group play? Yes, mDK is fine. But solo open world is not a L2P issue.

Maybe they just suck as magicka dk in solo openworld, have you ever thought about that? people give far too much credit to themselves

Hyssia · July 2016

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

@Hyssia it's well established by many good players that mDK underperforms in solo open world compared to other classes. In solo open world, there is literally no advantages that a mDK brings to the table compared to other classes. Group play? Yes, mDK is fine. But solo open world is not a L2P issue.

hue.

Tsar_Bogatyr wrote: »

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

@Hyssia it's well established by many good players that mDK underperforms in solo open world compared to other classes. In solo open world, there is literally no advantages that a mDK brings to the table compared to other classes. Group play? Yes, mDK is fine. But solo open world is not a L2P issue.

Maybe they just suck as magicka dk in solo openworld, have you ever thought about that? people give far too much credit to themselves

now /thread

srsly

AverageJo3Gam3r · July 2016

@Tsar_Bogatyr are you seriously saying that mDK can do something better than another class in open world solo PvP? Do they have better burst than any stam class? Nope. Better healing? Nope. Better tankiness? Nope, everyone melts even in heavy. Better escapeability? Please.

Can you kill potatoes with a mDK? Sure. But literally any other class would have done it better. If you disagree, please enlighten us. Because there's dozens of mDKs on these forums that would love find out the secret build that we've all been missing.

NBrookus · July 2016

Tsar_Bogatyr wrote: »

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

@Hyssia it's well established by many good players that mDK underperforms in solo open world compared to other classes. In solo open world, there is literally no advantages that a mDK brings to the table compared to other classes. Group play? Yes, mDK is fine. But solo open world is not a L2P issue.

Maybe they just suck as magicka dk in solo openworld, have you ever thought about that? people give far too much credit to themselves

Please provide videos of your awesome open world solo magicka DK. I would like to learn your methods.

Lokey0024 · July 2016

NBrookus wrote: »

Tsar_Bogatyr wrote: »

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

@Hyssia it's well established by many good players that mDK underperforms in solo open world compared to other classes. In solo open world, there is literally no advantages that a mDK brings to the table compared to other classes. Group play? Yes, mDK is fine. But solo open world is not a L2P issue.

Maybe they just suck as magicka dk in solo openworld, have you ever thought about that? people give far too much credit to themselves

Please provide videos of your awesome open world solo magicka DK. I would like to learn your methods.

Method 1: wait till everyone is focused on other targets and tickle them with fire feather.

Method 2: Hit from stealth a full charged heavy sword and board swing for 3k dmg (crit) and set up 3 abilities to hit at the same time while you get hit with 1 ability repeatedly that equals all 3 of yours each hit.

Method 3: Hit from stealth a full charged inferno staff heavy attack with bonus 40% dmg and cry as they dodge roll 6 times letting rally charge and vigor tick. Or worse, they stay at low health because we cant execute them

Method 4: play late night when everyones already drunk. Your best shot.

KenaPKK · July 2016

Hyssia wrote: »

lynog85 wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

lynog85 wrote: »

This set up does not have huge damage.

Yes, it does - you will see, penetration dominates over damage atm for magicka

Mate , I've ran this exact build plus multiple others on magic DK. NONE do huge damage. Literally none. Some do OK damage for Magic DK builds. That's about it. The whole class needs a rethink.

Or a skilled player

/thread

OOOOOOHHHH

Sanct16 · July 2016

@Hyssia

Its always funny to see people who don't even play MagDk claim how awesome it is.

Noone is doubting that you can play magDk and even kill some people - however an equally skilled player on another class would have performed better most likely. The reason MagDk is hard to play isn't because the class is so complex but simply because of how bad it is.

Brrrofski · July 2016

Hyssia wrote: »

lynog85 wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

lynog85 wrote: »

This set up does not have huge damage.

Yes, it does - you will see, penetration dominates over damage atm for magicka

Mate , I've ran this exact build plus multiple others on magic DK. NONE do huge damage. Literally none. Some do OK damage for Magic DK builds. That's about it. The whole class needs a rethink.

Or a skilled player

/thread

Why could do a lot better on any other class.