It really is not that difficult once you learn the mechanics and counters. The right build and a timely rolldodge goes a long long way aswell. I completed it with just one death with a strictly PvP build nightblade with 15k health... How? Dodge right and take no damage at all or keep it to a minimum. Needless to say, doing it on a magicka class was a breeze all together, both my Sorcerer and Templar had no struggles at all, just shield up during a hard hitting attack and keep them HoT's going.
Trying to attempt it on DK next, but as it stands his build is a bit behind.
I am in no way a PvE expert, but this comparatively to 1 vs X daily in PvP is a cakewalk, a braindead mob is still a braindead mob no matter how hard it hits, it's all about memorizing mechanics, nothing else xD
EternalEther wrote: »Ventured into Maelstrom Arena during the weekend on normal mode, as I have not done any of the veteran dungeons before. Got stuck on the same stage too. My problem was all the ice being destroyed. Made no difference how many trolls killed as the boss also destroys the ice with its club. Certainly became frustrating. Exited out of the dungeon yesterday before losing the plot completely.
All the stages beforehand were a breeze in comparison.
I had the same experience on my Stamblade. I just couldnt DPS the giantess down fast enough. I think there might be a bug. With the sigil of healing you should be able to survive in the water for a little bit, but I kept dying instantly. I put it on hold for a while then came back with a few moves switched around and finally did it. On my templar I only got stuck on the final boss of the final stage, and had to give up and complete it the next day. I'm am not looking forward to attempting this on Veteran....
DRXHarbinger wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »GreenhaloX wrote: »
I was stuck there for a bit until I just burned the boss as fast as possible and ignored the adds. I have 40k mag and 5100 to 5800 spell damage depending on how I am fighting it.
See.. that are some good stats, @bryanhaas . I can see how a sorc can breeze through normal Maelstrom, and I'm sure you do fine in VMA. I'm at 3200 weapon damage right now with my 2H with 30k health and about 25k stam (with food aid), and I can't seem to find any other ways to raise my weapon any higher or into the 5k or raise my stam stats. Even with my current stats, I don't really have problem cutting through those minions, which I have also faired better with this recent try than when I previously tried when I was in the mid-300 CP. It would be nice, though, if I have weapon dam in the 5000 and even if my stam is in the 30k. Yes, it seems like knowing the mechanics of each stage and boss is 50% or maybe more of the battle within Maelstrom.
Proof on those figures required. Without SPC, Kena and clever alchemist, stealth procs it's I have never seen spell damage in a solo instance anywhere near that. Even scathing mage and Kena procs only hits the 4k mark.
You saying that you would need to see proof that I hit 5800 spell power? If so I can upload a video later, it honestly is not hard to get those numbers. Just clever alc, torugs, willpower and kena. I do use my dual wield swords to proc kena and the enchantments get me some more spell power.
all those sets and when fully procd only give 2254 damage, plus the base stats you're only hitting about 4k or so. where is the extra 1800 coming from? even a power glyph won't come anywhere near? What am I missing here?
Please upload a video or a screenshot of the build, I want that immense power.
Well then dont do it if you cant. Its for skilled players.
Many people on here moan about easy end game content including dungeons but the one difficult thing in the game, people want nerfed.
Every single game has content that is difficult especially MMOs and it should be a reward for players who spend time to master their class.
Btw you might need to check a guide before you do maelstrom too youre just going into the next round blind with no idea what to expect. Then you expect it to be easy/a breeze. Confusing...
Ep1kMalware wrote: »samdegreat wrote: »The veteran maelstrom arena seems like a progression thing to me as well as acquiring more skill with movement, when to dodge etc. Which is all good practise for pvp.
So if I were you, I'd farm to 501 champion points and try it again, it will be a lot easier and less stressful.
so e guy on ps4 with like 278cp got flawless.mif you can't do it at 440cp 501 won't make a a difference.
I actually have a stam DK, more of a tank but managed to complete normal on him. I created a youtube account look up MaulochBaal I will post up a video of the Stam DK setup and tactics I used. This DK is setup mainly for PVP but norm MA was not difficult just took a little longer than my Mag Sorc.
Here is my Stam DK on norm round 2Correction Vet round 2:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLhZWGToMOE&list=PLd3BBcBw-stjaX1Z5IeOJn5KtQk0K832H&index=1
Here's how I run it on normal.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxdNuOMbHBQ&index=3&list=PLd3BBcBw-stgMS2T2jBKRLaU0elZ2KNum
GreenhaloX wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »samdegreat wrote: »The veteran maelstrom arena seems like a progression thing to me as well as acquiring more skill with movement, when to dodge etc. Which is all good practise for pvp.
So if I were you, I'd farm to 501 champion points and try it again, it will be a lot easier and less stressful.
so e guy on ps4 with like 278cp got flawless.mif you can't do it at 440cp 501 won't make a a difference.
Seemingly inconceivable! Need proof.. ha ha!
I actually have a stam DK, more of a tank but managed to complete normal on him. I created a youtube account look up MaulochBaal I will post up a video of the Stam DK setup and tactics I used. This DK is setup mainly for PVP but norm MA was not difficult just took a little longer than my Mag Sorc.
Here is my Stam DK on norm round 2Correction Vet round 2:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLhZWGToMOE&list=PLd3BBcBw-stjaX1Z5IeOJn5KtQk0K832H&index=1
Wow! Now that's a battle and a half, even for round 2 of VMA. Again, big kudos for you all have completed VMA (especially those keep doing it over and over again). That vigor ability plus the coagulating blood seem to make a big difference. You're regen your health constantly. That seems to be the other key. Unfortunately, I haven't done enough PvP yet to get that vigor skill.
Here's how I run it on normal.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxdNuOMbHBQ&index=3&list=PLd3BBcBw-stgMS2T2jBKRLaU0elZ2KNum
You are one badass dude, @bryanhaas! Good view of round 9. So, you're not using your 2H. Is it because round 9 is harder for a 2H DK.. maybe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grebp9lT5eo&list=PLihbmSQztziOCb0fB2hxzMlNpF-0ySGKRGreenhaloX wrote: »This is pretty much it for me for Maelstrom. After being stuck in the 5th ice stage for awhile, I got the nerve to go back in after reaching 480 CP and having plus up on my elemental and poison defense slots. Breezed through the 5th stage, then took a few to figure out the 6th stage. After reaching the final round of the 7th from enduring numerous respawning after getting hit by numerous 60-70k volatile poison blasts from out of nowhere, then all the final behemoth boss has to do is scream his rage and drains all your health. You know what.. I already have enough stress in my life, and I had recently lowered my blood pressure to an acceptable level. I don't need any more stress or have my BP rise up again. I can live with myself without having a Maelstrom completion, a flawless or stormproof achievement. I'll leave this to you all hardcore masochist types. Lol!
Thanks, that round 9 is normal and that is on a mag sorc. I will have more rounds up for normal on my DK later today hopefully that helps you get through it. Rally can be used in place of vigor, I actually just recently unlocked vigor on my DK actually that and proxy det on my sorc. The DK is based on one of Alcast's builds for PVP gearing is not done yet. The Sorc is just odd and ends I pieced together based on this and that, I would assume it is probably a common build but who knows I never researched builds for it.
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Masochist? You're very much mistaken. You learn from failure, not take pleasure in it.
You can't S & M in virtual reality. That is beyond weird... And that's coming from a weird guy! Seriously can you imagine hearing 2 people practice S & M over voice chat? Dear MARA the awkwardness...
GreenhaloX wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »samdegreat wrote: »The veteran maelstrom arena seems like a progression thing to me as well as acquiring more skill with movement, when to dodge etc. Which is all good practise for pvp.
So if I were you, I'd farm to 501 champion points and try it again, it will be a lot easier and less stressful.
so e guy on ps4 with like 278cp got flawless.mif you can't do it at 440cp 501 won't make a a difference.
Seemingly inconceivable! Need proof.. ha ha!
I actually have a stam DK, more of a tank but managed to complete normal on him. I created a youtube account look up MaulochBaal I will post up a video of the Stam DK setup and tactics I used. This DK is setup mainly for PVP but norm MA was not difficult just took a little longer than my Mag Sorc.
Here is my Stam DK on norm round 2Correction Vet round 2:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLhZWGToMOE&list=PLd3BBcBw-stjaX1Z5IeOJn5KtQk0K832H&index=1
Wow! Now that's a battle and a half, even for round 2 of VMA. Again, big kudos for you all have completed VMA (especially those keep doing it over and over again). That vigor ability plus the coagulating blood seem to make a big difference. You're regen your health constantly. That seems to be the other key. Unfortunately, I haven't done enough PvP yet to get that vigor skill.
Here's how I run it on normal.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxdNuOMbHBQ&index=3&list=PLd3BBcBw-stgMS2T2jBKRLaU0elZ2KNum
You are one badass dude, @bryanhaas! Good view of round 9. So, you're not using your 2H. Is it because round 9 is harder for a 2H DK.. maybe?
GreenhaloX wrote: »This is pretty much it for me for Maelstrom. After being stuck in the 5th ice stage for awhile, I got the nerve to go back in after reaching 480 CP and having plus up on my elemental and poison defense slots. Breezed through the 5th stage, then took a few to figure out the 6th stage. After reaching the final round of the 7th from enduring numerous respawning after getting hit by numerous 60-70k volatile poison blasts from out of nowhere, then all the final behemoth boss has to do is scream his rage and drains all your health. You know what.. I already have enough stress in my life, and I had recently lowered my blood pressure to an acceptable level. I don't need any more stress or have my BP rise up again. I can live with myself without having a Maelstrom completion, a flawless or stormproof achievement. I'll leave this to you all hardcore masochist types. Lol!
potirondb16_ESO wrote: »GreenhaloX wrote: »This is pretty much it for me for Maelstrom. After being stuck in the 5th ice stage for awhile, I got the nerve to go back in after reaching 480 CP and having plus up on my elemental and poison defense slots. Breezed through the 5th stage, then took a few to figure out the 6th stage. After reaching the final round of the 7th from enduring numerous respawning after getting hit by numerous 60-70k volatile poison blasts from out of nowhere, then all the final behemoth boss has to do is scream his rage and drains all your health. You know what.. I already have enough stress in my life, and I had recently lowered my blood pressure to an acceptable level. I don't need any more stress or have my BP rise up again. I can live with myself without having a Maelstrom completion, a flawless or stormproof achievement. I'll leave this to you all hardcore masochist types. Lol!
@GreenhaloX don't know if you knew but if you don't interrupt the behemot while he scream and hide Inside the bubble created by the mage left (the one add you didn't kill) then you won't be one shotted.
I have posted similar forum post. It pains me to say I cannot finish the last stage. Maelstrom is meant for the player elite. I do not have great reaction time, I do not have patience, and I have learned all the mechanics. It is all down to hand/eye coordination and reaction time plus a good internet connection along with crossing your fingers you don't experience ESO lag. No amount of resistance will help you and it will not matter. It only matters how much damage you can do. I suppose if I tried long enough, I might make it, but I think I need anger management after about an hour.
Vet?
GreenhaloX wrote: »Haaa! I did it!! I finally beat normal Maelstrom. After a minor disturbance in the force a couple days ago with an issue I had with a post/thread being locked or deleted, I contemplated taking a long break or maybe just going cold turkey away from this. But then, it kept on bugging me because I normally never leave something unfinished. So, I decided to cut short my evening out yesterday and had to make one final stand. I figured this recent try would be my flip of the coin. If I still have trouble, then yeah, I would just have to pack it up and call it a day. After another 14 CP points later and reconfigured my CPs a bit and grabbed the crit rush and rally (thank you, @CasNation for the critiques and tips for improvements), and understanding what needs to be done to mitigate the mechanics of the stages, I actually rolled right through the remaining stages 7-9.
So, I was excited and decided to do the whole thing one more time, for safe keeping. I went through the whole thing in one sitting and actually only died once. It was in the 7th stage, after beating the argonian behemoth boss, I was killed by the volatile explosion while digging into the chest at the end of the round. I was like, what the heck?! I must've been hit by the poison spore of something during the fight with the boss and not realize it. You all are right. Once you understand the mechanics and know how to get around it, it was a breeze to go the whole thing. Now, after a break, I think I may be ready to venture into VMA and experience the moans and groans that many are talking about. Lol!
Thank you, all, for your inputs, the tips, encouragements and your side of the story. You are good people. I appreciated a lot! Thank you, @Ep1kMalware, @CasNation, @bryanhaas, @DRXHarbinger, for the extra attention you gave to this thread which fueled my resolve to go back and finish it. For those of you who are still contemplating to go back in, be like me.. take heeds of the other good people's tips and recommendations, and just go and tackle it!
Ep1kMalware wrote: »
That's amazing dude! I'm feeling stoked for you. Hell, sounds like you might be a flawless conquerer before too long
Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »Finished normal people mode yesterday. Stage 7 was a breeze, just bash the behemoth when he roars and he stops straight away. Minders kept dying immediately due to hurricane area. That said, I'm not even going to try vMA, I'm too crappy a player lol
GreenhaloX wrote: »Ep1kMalware wrote: »
That's amazing dude! I'm feeling stoked for you. Hell, sounds like you might be a flawless conquerer before too long
Haaa! yeah, I think I would probably be induced with the moans and groans and a couple more cases of brewskies and Jack Daniels before that happens.. Thanks again for your inputs..
@GreenhaloX
Congrats! Glad some of my help came in handy. Just be forwarned that VMA is a whole different creature entirely...stuck on Stage 3 right now myself. I understand the mechanics, but my red/green colorblindness makes it nearly impossible to tell when anything is happening. Anyways, best of luck on vMA, and have fun reveling in your glorious triumph!