Official Feedback Thread for ESO Plus Costume Dyeing

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  • Shadesofkin
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    The Mages Guild Robes are among my favorite costume to use, being able to dye them away from that seafoam color is great. So far the only issue I noticed is that it did not convert the costume's color right away but I had to walk away from the table for a half a second then the colors took over.
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  • LadyNalcarya
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    This option should've been added when costumes were introduced. Very nice.
    Btw, does it work on disquises, like Servant's robe from TG quest or Crown Dishdasha?
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  • Ragdoll
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    All the yesses!

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    ...apparently there's a bit of a clipping issue on that gown by the way...
    Abeille wrote: »

    Exact same situation here. I bought the dress counting on them letting us dye costumes eventually, and now I got this:

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    I'm sorry for the quality. I think I will make a "Houses of Westeros Collection" now that I took a second look at the combinations.

    And same here. :smiley: I didn't like the color theme of that gown, but then I saw it with different colors (in Abah's Landing) and I thought "Some day... some day..." So I bought it. ^^
  • czar
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    Great and a very fun feature, but I and I'm sure several other players would be very happy if it was available for everyone and not ESO+ exclusive. As someone else said, not enough to convince me to subscribe and I probably won't bother buying more costumes. If I could dye costumes freely, I'd buy more of them. Hats are practically pointless if you can't match them with the rest of your outfit in a colour scheme that you like.
    Edited by czar on June 28, 2016 3:22PM
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  • Recremen
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    We cannot currently dye the quest-related costumes that need to be equipped from inventory, no.
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  • LadyNalcarya
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    Recremen wrote: »
    @NBrookus @KoshkaMurka

    We cannot currently dye the quest-related costumes that need to be equipped from inventory, no.

    Aww thats too bad :(
    Thanks for the answer!
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  • NBrookus
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    Recremen wrote: »
    @NBrookus @KoshkaMurka

    We cannot currently dye the quest-related costumes that need to be equipped from inventory, no.

    That's disappointing; my armor is so ugly on one toon I went back and looted a low level costume which is less ugly.

    Thank you for checking this out!
  • Lunachik
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    Yeah, I was sad that I couldn't dye my disguises, but that makes sense from a game perspective. You are supposed to be disguised exactly as the in game NPCs to do these quests, so the outfit not being dyeable makes sense, but would be a fun option.

    I do like it as a perk for ESO+ and I read today, in the news release, that the Dye Stamp option will be available in the Crown store for non ESO members. So anyone can get dye packs to do one outfit at a time that way. I think that works out okay. I mean we do pay for our membership , so we are paying for these perks, so whether in Crown store or ESO + it is being paid for by everyone. I'm guessing more ESO+ members use their Crowns for costumes than non members, so I think it's great to add that to our membership.
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  • Valorin
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    Concerning costume dyeing I noticed, that we only have very few colours on the PTS to try around. I would love to have the full palette, or at least a lot more colours to be able to try around. Might change when the EU chars are on the PTS.

    Also, and this is a general thing which is also live, and is, at least for me and a lot of guildies, a real issue: shiny colours.
    On many surfaces, and almost on all surfaces on high level gear, also on fabric, almost _any_ colour turns into a metallic/plastic/shiny look. Bosmer medium on C150/160 looks like a latex catsuit, most light pants and fabric parts on almost any robe look like they have been coloured with metallic spray paint. For me, this is a reason to totally abandon those styles and use the very few where that doesn't happen or dye those parts Coldharbour Ash Black, which is no solution.
    Shiny does not equal better. Most high quality fabrics in reality aren't shiny.

    This is the same green on lvl 36 gear and on CP150 gear:

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    I couldn't find a single colour that is not lensflare-shiny apart from Coldharbour Ash Black, and I have a lot of colours on my account.

    This is Novice Tan on Ancient Orc CP160:
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    On costumes that seems to work properly though. I don't have a lot of dyes on the PTS at the moment, but what I tried looked like fabric. Apart from the parts that are simply not dyeable, that works fine for me.
  • MornaBaine
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    This has got to be the single best thing you've done with the Crown Store yet. And most of the costumes seem to take the dyes well. I have to echo the sentiment on bringing back this costume:

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    I didn't buy it because of the awful color scheme. Honestly, when you bring in the costume dyeing to live, you really need to bring back ALL the discontinued costumes even if only for a "limited time" for those people who didn't buy them solely based on the colors.

    As to this costume:

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    Currently on PTS you can't dye it at all.
    Also, I really don't understand why the arm "armor" is even there as it's clearly completely pointless. And especially the armor on the forearm is really bad. Something more like jewelry would be cool but this huge bulky weirdness is completely incongruous. Please make it go away before you release this outfit ZOS. It's just kind of ridiculous and realllly detracts from the overall look of the costume. I'd also really love to see an outfit similar to this in the upper tier khajiit fabric! Can't we please get an elegant version that looks like silks instead of rough leather???
    Edited by MornaBaine on June 30, 2016 10:43AM
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  • MornaBaine
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    Also, we need a shiny black dye.
    Edited by MornaBaine on June 30, 2016 10:51AM
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  • MornaBaine
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    Valorin wrote: »
    Concerning costume dyeing I noticed, that we only have very few colours on the PTS to try around. I would love to have the full palette, or at least a lot more colours to be able to try around. Might change when the EU chars are on the PTS.

    Also, and this is a general thing which is also live, and is, at least for me and a lot of guildies, a real issue: shiny colours.
    On many surfaces, and almost on all surfaces on high level gear, also on fabric, almost _any_ colour turns into a metallic/plastic/shiny look. Bosmer medium on C150/160 looks like a latex catsuit, most light pants and fabric parts on almost any robe look like they have been coloured with metallic spray paint. For me, this is a reason to totally abandon those styles and use the very few where that doesn't happen or dye those parts Coldharbour Ash Black, which is no solution.
    Shiny does not equal better. Most high quality fabrics in reality aren't shiny.

    This is the same green on lvl 36 gear and on CP150 gear:

    8b2291b0f8.jpg
    8a2c8d7621.jpg

    I couldn't find a single colour that is not lensflare-shiny apart from Coldharbour Ash Black, and I have a lot of colours on my account.

    This is Novice Tan on Ancient Orc CP160:
    9d1d8d60fa.jpg

    On costumes that seems to work properly though. I don't have a lot of dyes on the PTS at the moment, but what I tried looked like fabric. Apart from the parts that are simply not dyeable, that works fine for me.

    This has been a huge issue with armor dyeing forever. Either things you DON'T want to be shiny ARE or things you DO want to be shiny AREN'T. There really needs to be some way for us as players to determine the "texture" of the armor, whether metal, leather or cloth, in order to get the dye effect we want. Upper tier armor should not be automatically shiny.
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    This works fine, but being locked behind ESO plus only is the wrong direction.

    In addition to ESO plus, there should be another non-sub option for our dyes because 1. It's a base game update and 2. while this works for PC it's not a solid option for Xbox one. It's become frustrating to see the PTS environment that is out of alignment often with the console release of these tested updates.

    Other than this, it's all good.
    Thanks for the new features
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  • Enodoc
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    Lunachik wrote: »
    Yeah, I was sad that I couldn't dye my disguises, but that makes sense from a game perspective. You are supposed to be disguised exactly as the in game NPCs to do these quests, so the outfit not being dyeable makes sense, but would be a fun option.
    If they ever get around to rewarding you with a Costume version of the Disguise as part of the quest reward, as happens already with the Gemstone of Skeletal Visage, then it would be doable. The UI is already in place for disguises-as-costumes; I wonder when we'll actually see it implemented.

    This works fine, but being locked behind ESO plus only is the wrong direction.

    In addition to ESO plus, there should be another non-sub option for our dyes because 1. It's a base game update and 2. while this works for PC it's not a solid option for Xbox one. It's become frustrating to see the PTS environment that is out of alignment often with the console release of these tested updates.

    Other than this, it's all good.
    Thanks for the new features
    Non-ESO Plus players do get the Dye Stamps in the Crown Store with preset dye configurations for Costumes, but it would be nice to see something a bit more customizable. For example, maybe the Crown Store could also sell empty Dye Stamps for you to build up your own configuration. Don't like the presets? Pay a bit more to make a custom Dye Stamp from all your unlocked colours, but as with the other Stamps, you can only use it once.
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  • Incognitius
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    Valorin wrote: »
    On many surfaces, and almost on all surfaces on high level gear, also on fabric, almost _any_ colour turns into a metallic/plastic/shiny look. Bosmer medium on C150/160 looks like a latex catsuit, most light pants and fabric parts on almost any robe look like they have been coloured with metallic spray paint. For me, this is a reason to totally abandon those styles and use the very few where that doesn't happen or dye those parts Coldharbour Ash Black, which is no solution.
    Shiny does not equal better. Most high quality fabrics in reality aren't shiny.
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    On costumes that seems to work properly though. I don't have a lot of dyes on the PTS at the moment, but what I tried looked like fabric. Apart from the parts that are simply not dyeable, that works fine for me.

    A few costumes even allow you to choose what kind of fabric you would like to have. The Eternity Tunic for example. The jerkin can look like it normally does, a cotton fabric. But you can also give it a more silky look like its more expensive brethren 'brilliance brocade robe' and ' summit lords silken robes'. It depends on the color you choose.

    Cotton:
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    Silk:
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    Oh, and to reply to the thread itself:

    Were you able to successfully dye your costumes and hats using this system? Yes, except for that one new costume that others already mentioned.
    Was it clear how to use the costume dyes? Entirely
    Did the costume dyes work as expected? For the most part. Some customs dye better than others. But the same has always been true for armors as well.
    Do you feel this is a valuable addition to ESO Plus memberships? Yes
    Edited by Incognitius on July 2, 2016 5:55PM
  • Franieck
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    It's definitely a first step towards the right direction! Nonetheless, there are some parts of most of the costumes that cannot be dyed, which for me defeats the purpose of using them at all. I would love if the ordinator costumes could have their arms dyed like the rest of the armor. The black hand robe would also look much better if the leather parts were dyeable. PLEASE Zenimax, make ALL of the costume parts dyeable!
  • barrrt
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    - Were you able to successfully dye your costumes and hats using this system?

    Yes


    - Was it clear how to use the costume dyes?

    Yes


    - Did the costume dyes work as expected?

    Pretty much. One improvement I’d love to see in the future is an increase in the number of color channels for costumes. Since some costumes have more parts that could be dyed, and unlike armor the entire costume is dyed at once, having more color channels would allow for even greater customization and increase in value of the feature. A good example here is the Wedding Suit, which has the shirt and the red jewel undyeable right now.


    - Do you feel this is a valuable addition to ESO Plus memberships?

    Absolutely. I’ve already spent 5000+ crowns since the PTS patch came out as I found color combinations I liked for costumes I had not owned on live.

    But here’s the thing… I haven’t bought them before, and I would not have now if I didn’t have the opportunity to see them dyed in various color combinations on the PTS. They were just not that interesting to me (or matching any of my toon’s style) in their default color schemes. And so my suggestion here is that the crown store preview should have an option to see how the costume would look like in different color combinations.

    Having the entire dyeing UI would be great, but here are three simpler options that would also be helpful:

    a) toggle to show crown store preview using color channels of the currently worn costume (this is my favorite option). This toggle would be on the preview screen

    b) random cycle, like the F key at the dye station now, using only unlocked colors, of course

    c) cycle through owned (and/or currently being sold) dye stamps - for our ESO+less friends
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  • Shadesofkin
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    I love it. I appreciate it as a perk of subbing.
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  • baratron
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    Here's a video of costume dyeing for anyone who isn't on the PTS: ESO Plus Costume Dyeing.

    It works so much better than the Crown Store Dye Stamps, which I left an unhappy comment about here!
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  • MornaBaine
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    A few costumes even allow you to choose what kind of fabric you would like to have. The Eternity Tunic for example. The jerkin can look like it normally does, a cotton fabric. But you can also give it a more silky look like its more expensive brethren 'brilliance brocade robe' and ' summit lords silken robes'. It depends on the color you choose.

    Cotton:
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    Silk:
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    The problem is that the "shiny or not shiny" effect is an effect of the dyes themselves. And for some reason only the "special" dyes are shiny. Well, what if I want the soft pink in the common dyes section to be shiny? What if I want the various golds in the mid section of the dyes to be shiny? What if I'd like a shiny black dye? What if I'd like Syffin Red to NOT be shiny? The dyes themselves alter the texture/fabric type of the armor or costume. Which really limits your options. We need to be able to CHOOSE shiny or NOT shiny versions of ALL the dyes. Maybe the "shiny option" can unlock when you get your first level 50 character just to keep it "special."
    Edited by MornaBaine on July 12, 2016 1:47AM
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  • Sporvan
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    I'm unable to dye the Abah's Watch Turbans, they don't apply colours.
  • Abeille
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    MornaBaine wrote: »

    The problem is that the "shiny or not shiny" effect is an effect of the dyes themselves. And for some reason only the "special" dyes are shiny. Well, what if I want the soft pink in the common dyes section to be shiny? What if I want the various golds in the mid section of the dyes to be shiny? What if I'd like a shiny black dye? What if I'd like Syffin Red to NOT be shiny? The dyes themselves alter the texture/fabric type of the armor or costume. Which really limits your options. We need to be able to CHOOSE shiny or NOT shiny versions of ALL the dyes. Maybe the "shiny option" can unlock when you get your first level 50 character just to keep it "special."

    Having an option to make a certain dye look like cloth, leather or metal would increase their value to me A LOT. I would be much more inclined to buy Dye Stamps, even as a subscriber (especially if the Dye Stamp has a color I don't have), if I could make the dyes shiny or not.
    Edited by Abeille on July 12, 2016 6:06PM
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

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  • Gnomes30
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    @MornaBaine Agreed entirely. Both cloth and leather take dyes poorly on many sets. Vampire white on my crafted primal ancestor silk looks like tan hessian. ZOS please add a saturation-esq tool.

    Can anyone confirm if the VR2 costume Dark Seducer can be dyed please?
  • khele23eb17_ESO
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    Gnomes30 wrote: »
    Can anyone confirm if the VR2 costume Dark Seducer can be dyed please?

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    Edited by khele23eb17_ESO on July 13, 2016 5:23AM
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  • Lunachik
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    I just tried to dye a bunch of things on my female bosmer, and some are not able to dye in all three slots. Not sure if this is a bug. The sets I tested are as follows:
    • Ashlander pack- no issues
    • Nedic - no issues
    • Pirate - The Pirate Swab top will not dye. The First Mate top will not dye.
    • Tribal Shaman- no issues
    • Winterborn - no issues
    • Woodland Scouts - no issues
    • Noble Dress _ no issues
    • Sandkissed - no issues
    • Silvanari hat - only uses 2 of the 3 dye slots, so not sure why it shows three.
    • Graght-Climber - only uses 2 of the 3 slots as well.
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  • khele23eb17_ESO
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    Lunachik wrote: »
    I just tried to dye a bunch of things on my female bosmer, and some are not able to dye in all three slots. Not sure if this is a bug. The sets I tested are as follows:
    • Ashlander pack- no issues
    • Nedic - no issues
    • Pirate - The Pirate Swab top will not dye. The First Mate top will not dye.
    • Tribal Shaman- no issues
    • Winterborn - no issues
    • Woodland Scouts - no issues
    • Noble Dress _ no issues
    • Sandkissed - no issues
    • Silvanari hat - only uses 2 of the 3 dye slots, so not sure why it shows three.
    • Graght-Climber - only uses 2 of the 3 slots as well.

    The Mannimarco one doesnt dye either.
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  • Gnomes30
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    @khele23eb17_ESO nice. Thanks.
  • AlienSlof
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    The Mannimarco one doesnt dye either.

    It did before this most recent patch, but now it doesn't.

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  • Incognitius
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    Found a bug with costume dyeing.

    When trying to make a rich man's Priest of the Green outfit with the costume you get for finishing the Dark Brotherhood main quest, my character got some excessive green eye shadow to match:


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    This only happens with hood. When you disable helmet, the eye shadow is disabled as well:


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