BOMBARD ROOT -- There's not a thread about it.

Wollust · July 2016

I have no issues with roots when it's stuff like eternal hunt, beast trap or up your face talons from DKs. But bombard has such a wide range. It has a higher base damage than steel tornado. And it snares on top of that. Seems kinda stupid to me. Either the high damage and the snare or the root has to go. Can't give everything to that one skill.

In general, removing snares from many abilities would be my way to go. We've had too much of a snare meta since IC went live. Everything has a snare effect by now. It's frustrating af.

Zheg · July 2016

Odditorium wrote: »

I found that Bombard is an excellent remedy for ball groups. If there not had been ball groups I would have never found any real use to slot this skill.

Good players were able to have an impact on ball groups even before the TG patch that attempted to shift them from groups to megazergs. You just, had to not be a potato. But hey, now everyone can hit one skill and feel like a winner, trophies for everyone!

Siege buffs, purge nerf (bug... actually), barrier nerf, VD, fasallas, negate buffs, prox buffs, forward camps ... if people still NEED broken bombard spam on top of all of those tools, then they are terrible players to begin with and should never have been catered to. There is no justifying the current functionality of the skill, not with everything it brings to the table.

KenaPKK · July 2016

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Sublime wrote: »

Forward Momentum

One of the most underutilized ability's in Cryodill in my opinion.

I personally have this ability slotted but i use it so i can substitute Shuffle for Double Take, i really enjoy the speed in stealth Double Take provides.

A lot of stam builds are reliant on rally heal

zuto40 · July 2016

tbh option 4 seems the best, those pesky stam sorcs are troublesome ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )

Egocanemveresum · July 2016

The Bombard root is 1 of the things that currently is ruining pvp for many of the players, and driving them away. I agree there has to be some sort of immunity to snares after you clean the effect off of you, if only purge worked like it is suppose, but that is only a dream now. If they had any idea on how to fix this ongoing bug it would be in the pts, and I agree they either oppose fixing it or lack the resources/knowledge on how to.

I figure it is better to just join in the forums now, instead of posting my list of issues with the game, that will most likely get me banned for insulting the developers and moderators that I originally typed up.

BurritoESO · July 2016

@KenaPKK ummmmm correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't you the dedicated bombard/poison spammer for Haxus?

Satiar · July 2016

BurritoESO wrote: »

@KenaPKK ummmmm correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't you the dedicated bombard/poison spammer for Haxus?

I tried to make him my dedicated bombard spammer but he kept dying off crown! Had to detach him from the hive mind and return his individuality

Ah, what might have been Kena. Such glories awaited you!

KenaPKK · July 2016

BurritoESO wrote: »

@KenaPKK ummmmm correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't you the dedicated bombard/poison spammer for Haxus?

I can only think about one thing at a time. You're making my head hurt.

Satiar wrote: »

BurritoESO wrote: »

@KenaPKK ummmmm correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't you the dedicated bombard/poison spammer for Haxus?

I tried to make him my dedicated bombard spammer but he kept dying off crown! Had to detach him from the hive mind and return his individuality

Ah, what might have been Kena. Such glories awaited you!

Glories? Bah! You should see me now! I am a free spirited bombardling the likes of which Snareodiil has never seen before. When I roll up, my foes' Rapids fingers start a frenzied twitching before I even raise my blue cp120 bow. One shot, and @Zheg curls up in mist form for the remainder of the fight amirite?

*looks around butthurtedly*

But heeey I didn't die off crown much, and I was still scrubby back then. Methinks they stand out in memory because I bickered with Bulb so often about sticking on crown at all.

KenaPKK · July 2016

Wow, writing that gave me memories of when I considered Dwarven Oil an expensive and treasured possession...

Man the nostalgia..

Satiar · July 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

Wow, writing that gave me memories of when I considered Dwarven Oil an expensive and treasured possession... Man the nostalgia..

I remember paying 10g per bugloss/columbine. Those sweet summer days. Gone, like tears in rain.

Zheg · July 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

BurritoESO wrote: »

@KenaPKK ummmmm correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't you the dedicated bombard/poison spammer for Haxus?

I can only think about one thing at a time. You're making my head hurt.

Satiar wrote: »

BurritoESO wrote: »

@KenaPKK ummmmm correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't you the dedicated bombard/poison spammer for Haxus?

I tried to make him my dedicated bombard spammer but he kept dying off crown! Had to detach him from the hive mind and return his individuality

Ah, what might have been Kena. Such glories awaited you!

Glories? Bah! You should see me now! I am a free spirited bombardling the likes of which Snareodiil has never seen before. When I roll up, my foes' Rapids fingers start a frenzied twitching before I even raise my blue cp120 bow. One shot, and @Zheg curls up in mist form for the remainder of the fight amirite?

*looks around butthurtedly*

But heeey I didn't die off crown much, and I was still scrubby back then. Methinks they stand out in memory because I bickered with Bulb so often about sticking on crown at all.

Im working on a secret technique that will let me use jesus beam while in mist form. ZOS will praise me for a 'clever use of game mechanics', and the forum salt will be even BETTER than it is now.

KenaPKK · July 2016

Zheg wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

BurritoESO wrote: »

@KenaPKK ummmmm correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't you the dedicated bombard/poison spammer for Haxus?

I can only think about one thing at a time. You're making my head hurt.

Satiar wrote: »

BurritoESO wrote: »

@KenaPKK ummmmm correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't you the dedicated bombard/poison spammer for Haxus?

I tried to make him my dedicated bombard spammer but he kept dying off crown! Had to detach him from the hive mind and return his individuality

Ah, what might have been Kena. Such glories awaited you!

Glories? Bah! You should see me now! I am a free spirited bombardling the likes of which Snareodiil has never seen before. When I roll up, my foes' Rapids fingers start a frenzied twitching before I even raise my blue cp120 bow. One shot, and @Zheg curls up in mist form for the remainder of the fight amirite?

*looks around butthurtedly*

But heeey I didn't die off crown much, and I was still scrubby back then. Methinks they stand out in memory because I bickered with Bulb so often about sticking on crown at all.

Im working on a secret technique that will let me use jesus beam while in mist form. ZOS will praise me for a 'clever use of game mechanics', and the forum salt will be even BETTER than it is now.

A Jesus beam from every bat in swarm.

Sheuib · July 2016

No changes need to be made to bombard. I say this because bombard is a major stamina drain. If you spam this ability you will be out of stamina in no time.

KenaPKK · July 2016

Sheuib wrote: »

No changes need to be made to bombard. I say this because bombard is a major stamina drain. If you spam this ability you will be out of stamina in no time.

False.

Little over 2k cost of you build right. Can build plenty of regen to compensate, or just get more zerglings.

No.

Sheuib · July 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

Sheuib wrote: »

No changes need to be made to bombard. I say this because bombard is a major stamina drain. If you spam this ability you will be out of stamina in no time.

False.

Little over 2k cost of you build right. Can build plenty of regen to compensate, or just get more zerglings.

No.

If you're a bow build that is going for the hardest hitting snipe shot most likely your regeneration isn't that great. Sure you could build just to be a bombard spammer but then you gimp the most important part of a bow build. And, let's face it if your snipe and heavy attacks don't hit really hard all you have is a crappy bow build that everyone can heal through and kill you.

KenaPKK · July 2016

Sheuib wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Sheuib wrote: »

No changes need to be made to bombard. I say this because bombard is a major stamina drain. If you spam this ability you will be out of stamina in no time.

False.

Little over 2k cost of you build right. Can build plenty of regen to compensate, or just get more zerglings.

No.

If you're a bow build that is going for the hardest hitting snipe shot most likely your regeneration isn't that great. Sure you could build just to be a bombard spammer but then you gimp the most important part of a bow build. And, let's face it if your snipe and heavy attacks don't hit really hard all you have is a crappy bow build that everyone can heal through and kill you.

You have a lot to learn about PvP, honestly. No offense intended, but snipe is the least useful bow skill in competitive PvP, and bombard is super toxic to group v group play. Also sustain is a good thing. Don't ignore sustain if you want to be able to actually fight people straight up. Feel free to ask me questions or anything, but bombard is cancer, sorry.

Lord_Hev · July 2016

I personally like option 4

maxjapank · July 2016

I've never minded the snare of Bombard. It's the reapplying of the Immobilize that is terrible. There needs to be some sort of immunity from this. Perhaps making it stun one target and apply a snare to everyone else. That way you can use break free from the stun.

At least Magicka users can become a Vamp and gain Mist. But in reality, you are forced to become a Vamp to survive in this current Bombard meta. And I find being forced to do something not good for the game.

PainfulFAFA · July 2016

"ZOS hasnt confirmed its bugged or broken so im going to continue to [insert cheese here] until they say so"

- ESO Forums 2016

maxjapank · July 2016

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

"ZOS hasnt confirmed its bugged or broken so im going to continue to [insert cheese here] until they say so"

- ESO Forums 2016

dumb dumb dumb

Zheg · July 2016

maxjapank wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

"ZOS hasnt confirmed its bugged or broken so im going to continue to [insert cheese here] until they say so"

- ESO Forums 2016

dumb dumb dumb

The best part is, this comes from some of the same players that would blow a gasket if someone said that about jesus beam.

KenaPKK · July 2016

@Zheg you taking this observation from the Malu thread?

KenaPKK · July 2016

@maxjapank I can't figure out how to get a *** quote button on my phone...lol but I agree with my your last comment 100%.

RinaldoGandolphi · July 2016

Sad how many of those Google threads were started by yours truly, but I'm tired @KenaPKK you must pick up the fight now to get Bombard fixed.

Here's to hoping

KenaPKK · July 2016

@RinaldoGandolphi I shall carry your torch with persistence and pride. Cheers.

Rohamad_Ali · July 2016

Everyone should stahp using stuff .

ManDraKE · July 2016

Sheuib wrote: »

If you're a bow build that is going for the hardest hitting snipe shot most likely your regeneration isn't that great. Sure you could build just to be a bombard spammer but then you gimp the most important part of a bow build. And, let's face it if your snipe and heavy attacks don't hit really hard all you have is a crappy bow build that everyone can heal through and kill you.

The most important part of a bow build is the hastry retreat passive. Snipe is just a tool for newbies, but is pretty much useless except for a gank build, or just to stay with a 20man zerg spamming range attacks (in such a case, you can spam any skill and would be effective). Stay in a keep sniping people? won't do anything, they will get rez, or spawn at the near camp, it dosn't do anything besides being a bit annoying sometimes.

Sallington · July 2016

If I look in an inner breach and see 10 people standing on the back flag with bows equipped, I normally just back away and let everyone else run in and die without me. I can't spam ritual fast enough to keep the root off me.

Francescolg · July 2016

ManDraKE wrote: »

Snipe is just a tool for newbies, but is pretty much useless except for a gank build, or just to stay with a 20man zerg spamming range attacks (

Wrong, Bombard works also as Anti-Zerg tool vs. organized trains (from the back/from the side) which have no good/dedicated purge/debuff char.

There are many scenarios where Bombard makes sense and it is a fully valid skill, mainly for CC purposes. Combined with Caltrops, hard-CC, etc.., Bombard can be of a very high strategical value, as at choke points, keep doors, flag rooms, to separate the tail of an organized group, or people who do not follow the crown, etc. etc.

Most people who complain about bombard refuse to slot skills as purge in their skill bar..
The complaints started already 2014, so go on, if you feel like..

Daggerfall_Bones · July 2016

Draxys wrote: »

Revert the change to Rapids and it wouldn't be as much of a problem, though I would still call for a root immunity upon the effect ending (through wearing off, purging, or dodging). Something needs to change; as it is, a magicka DK is forced to be a vampire and run elusive mist. There is no other way to counter bombard spam.

My way around it was using the well-fitted trait, the tri stat glyphs and vampire mist. The heavy armor meta now makes even some of the small proxy bomb groups hard to kill. Most of these groups just avoid the open field and use woodpiles, walls, crates, etc to boost their damage mitigation. I need to do more testing but I've run across at least one that had some type of immunity to bombard. But all in all you simply can't stack 100% magicka like you can in PvE.