10th Trait?

xerasia · July 2016

Anyone know if there are any plans to add a 10th trait to research?

Tevalaur · July 2016

I sure hope not... the notion of 4 months base research time to learn the final trait on each item is a bit beyond ridiculous in my opinion.

SolarCat02 · July 2016

Tevalaur wrote: »

I sure hope not... the notion of 4 months base research time to learn the final trait on each item is a bit beyond ridiculous in my opinion.

Agreed!
Not to mention, I would rather they made some of the less used traits more useful first. Like the recent improvement to Training for example.

SolarCat02 · July 2016

Double posted somehow. Ignore!

Blackbird_V · July 2016

SolarCat02 wrote: »

Tevalaur wrote: »

I sure hope not... the notion of 4 months base research time to learn the final trait on each item is a bit beyond ridiculous in my opinion.

Agreed!
Not to mention, I would rather they made some of the less used traits more useful first. Like the update to Training for example.

Or do a completely obliterate Citrine trait-style.

juhasman · July 2016

Adding a new trait creates a problem for all master crafters. They would need to wait like 2 or more months to finally craft something with this trait

Calidus1 · July 2016

juhasman wrote: »

Adding a new trait creates a problem for all master crafters. They would need to wait like 2 or more months to finally craft something with this trait

Yeah... but not necessarily. You could learn the trait on an crafter without any research done and as long as the toon had ten/ten (i do this on a lot of alts to get hireling goodies), could make the new trait in a few hours. My friend did this with nirnhoned and he was selling the stuff his unleveled crafter made while his leveled crafter learned the trait.

They just redid the traits with DB(and did a good job i think) so there won't be any adds or changes soon. But eventually i imagine they will add more traits.... so get ready!!

redspecter23 · July 2016

I'd prefer they make the current traits useful before adding another. They did a pass on trait improvements recently and we now have an age of prosperous and training that is a huge joke among my groups. Maybe they can do something about that. PvP is all about Impenetrable. PvE is all about Divines and the heavy armor users have a few more options mostly because their passives got shifted over to Sturdy.

Sorry if I come across a bit ragey but I'm still upset they spent manhours on an overhaul that didn't change the meta much at all and added a pile of frustration among those farming endgame gear.

bebynnag · July 2016

if a 10th trait were introduced, what would it be?

because imho 10th is the best,

Nestor · July 2016

Calidus1 wrote: »

Yeah... but not necessarily. You could learn the trait on an crafter without any research done and as long as the toon had ten/ten (i do this on a lot of alts to get hireling goodies), could make the new trait in a few hours. My friend did this with nirnhoned and he was selling the stuff his unleveled crafter made while his leveled crafter learned the trait.

Yes, you can learn the single trait on an item in 6 hours. But, what are you going to do with it? To make any kind of a crafted set is going to take months.

I think it needs to be 9 traits. It has symmetry with the 9 Divines. Also, we still only have 3 or 4 useful traits in the game, the other 5 or 6 are still pretty meh. So, do something with the existing traits to make them more useful (the last update was a good step in this direction, now we just need a giant leap for ESOKind)

disintegr8 · July 2016

I agree with what Nestor said, knowing one trait is next to useless and modifying the existing traits to be more useful would be far better than introducing new ones.

Calidus1 · July 2016

Nestor wrote: »

But, what are you going to do with it? To make any kind of a crafted set is going to take months.

sell it to people who need it while my real crafter learns the new trait over 2 months. Make loads of money.

Crafting sets will take a while, but its an mmo, sometimes stuff takes a while.

Nestor wrote: »

I think it needs to be 9 traits. It has symmetry with the 9 Divines.

No nine divines yet!! this argument is flawed!!

Really all i'm saying is that i bet we get a new trait within the year... regardless of how long it will take master crafters to learn.

ADarklore · July 2016

Calidus1 wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

But, what are you going to do with it? To make any kind of a crafted set is going to take months.

sell it to people who need it while my real crafter learns the new trait over 2 months. Make loads of money.

Crafting sets will take a while, but its an mmo, sometimes stuff takes a while.

Nestor wrote: »

I think it needs to be 9 traits. It has symmetry with the 9 Divines.

No nine divines yet!! this argument is flawed!!

Really all i'm saying is that i bet we get a new trait within the year... regardless of how long it will take master crafters to learn.

I am betting NO... right now there are very few sets to even craft using nine traits, I cannot see them adding a tenth especially since some of the nine trait sets are fairly useless anyway.

NBrookus · July 2016

If the 10th trait is "change traits," bring it on.

Rohamad_Ali · July 2016

By the Nines there shall be no 10th !

vamp_emily · July 2016

Yes please!

I would like them to add another trait. I have crafters sitting their doing nothing while they can be researching a new trait.

juhasman · July 2016

Calidus1 wrote: »

juhasman wrote: »

Adding a new trait creates a problem for all master crafters. They would need to wait like 2 or more months to finally craft something with this trait

Yeah... but not necessarily. You could learn the trait on an crafter without any research done and as long as the toon had ten/ten (i do this on a lot of alts to get hireling goodies), could make the new trait in a few hours. My friend did this with nirnhoned and he was selling the stuff his unleveled crafter made while his leveled crafter learned the trait.

They just redid the traits with DB(and did a good job i think) so there won't be any adds or changes soon. But eventually i imagine they will add more traits.... so get ready!!

Yes but if there would be new crafting setss requring 10 traits You would need to wait 4 motnths to be able to craft this sets. Having a trait just to have it is pointless. They cant add new traits at current system because that totally disqualifies master crafters doesnt matter You can learn it in few hours on other toon. Tell me how for example You would want to craft twice born star wih that new trait?

ajwest927 · July 2016

They could just use the existing trait and transform them until new traits that way they can introduce new traits and we don't have to research them.

Aemon_Isklexi · July 2016

I'd say no new traits until they introduce new ways to find nirnhorned gear (for research) and obtain nirncrux. Right now, the nirnhorned stuff is all tied to Craglorn, an obsolete end-game zone. The longer the game goes on, Craglorn will only get more obsolete, but crafters will still be forced to go back there time after time to get more nirncrux/research nirnhorned gear. The devs are going to have to let Craglorn go eventually.

bebynnag · July 2016

Aemon_Isklexi wrote: »

I'd say no new traits until they introduce new ways to find nirnhorned gear (for research) and obtain nirncrux. Right now, the nirnhorned stuff is all tied to Craglorn, an obsolete end-game zone. The longer the game goes on, Craglorn will only get more obsolete, but crafters will still be forced to go back there time after time to get more nirncrux/research nirnhorned gear. The devs are going to have to let Craglorn go eventually.

but when one tamriel comes out it will be increased to Cap, so it wont b a low level quest zone anymore

and since 4 of the trials are there i hope they dont just aboandon it!