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For console ppl here is how text chat works! For those not on PTS. now with pictures!

  • disintegr8
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    I don't think PS4 needs text chat but if people wish to use it, so be it - I'll just leave it turned off. The first thing that I turned off in the game was area chat as there is already more rubbish being spoken out there than I can handle, text chat might just be more of the same - o n l y _ a r r i v i n g _ s l o w e r _ b e c a u s e _ p e o p l e _ h a v e _ t o _ t y p e _ i t .

    All consoles (PS4 and Xbox) come with a mic so in game we can use area/group chat and mail, outside of this there is console messaging and party chat. Not currently needing a keyboard, it would be just as annoying to have one as it would be to use the on screen typing tools so unless there were real benefits I am currently not aware of, I'd prefer not to use it.
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  • DragonSamurai360
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    Are you able to message individual players with console text chat meaning a private message or as it's called on PC "Whisper"? Also is there a character limit on console text chat, meaning can I type more than 255 characters? The Xbox OS private message limits you to 255 letters, numbers etc, which is very frustrating, as I usually can't even finish what I am trying to say which ends up leading to 2 or maybe 3 of those messages sent to someone.
  • Funkopotamus
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    Yeuhhaaaaaa!!!

    All the text chat warriors that are still here rejoice! My brothers and sisters we finally survived long enough to see text chat on consoles!
    And people said it would never happen..

    Text chat was already written in the code on the console release it just was not enabled.

    This will solve so many problems that a good portion of the people that left ESO had with this game. To name a few are.

    Grouping will be so much easier.
    People will actually be able to be a part of the ESO economy without all of the Guild Trader drama!



    This is absolutely

    .........................................SMURFTASTIC! ..........................



    /Dance!!!!!
    Edited by Funkopotamus on July 14, 2016 1:11AM
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  • RebornV3x
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    its good that it can be toggled off don't really wanna see all the spam from the 11 year olds in Mournhold might be cool for PVP tho I mean I'm pretty sure you can send messages on console so was this feature really necessary could have probably gotten a 3rd dungeon instead next month.
    Edited by RebornV3x on July 14, 2016 1:37AM
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    I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.
  • bareheiny
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    RebornV3x wrote: »
    its good that it can be toggled off don't really wanna see all the spam from the 11 year olds in Mournhold might be cool for PVP tho I mean I'm pretty sure you can send messages on console so was this feature really necessary could have probably gotten a 3rd dungeon instead next month.
    Console messaging isn't even remotely suitable for chatting with guild mates, others in-game or looking for groups.

    For various reasons, I'm not a user of voice chat...it'll be fan freaking tactic to finally be able to chat with my guild mates. And I'll be able to properly apologize when I cause a dungeon wipe. Whether or not my group mates have chat turned on or not won't be my concern.
  • menedhyn
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    disintegr8 wrote: »
    Not currently needing a keyboard, it would be just as annoying to have one as it would be to use the on screen typing tools so unless there were real benefits I am currently not aware of, I'd prefer not to use it
    I gather that there are a good number of role-players who have been waiting patiently for text chat (me included) and I read that there are quite a few more who don't wish to use headsets and mics for a variety of reasons. Of course text chat won't appeal or have benefits for everyone. But personally, i'm delighted. Area chat was just too 'revealing' for me!
  • EZgoin76
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    For those of you not wanting text chat, just a guess, but this is your first mmorpg isn't it? Because the pros of text chat far outweigh the cons.

    I won't get into it because they have already been discussed many times over. Do yourself a favour though and search "console text chat" here on the forums.
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  • Kalante
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    disintegr8 wrote: »
    I don't think PS4 needs text chat but if people wish to use it, so be it - I'll just leave it turned off. The first thing that I turned off in the game was area chat as there is already more rubbish being spoken out there than I can handle, text chat might just be more of the same - o n l y _ a r r i v i n g _ s l o w e r _ b e c a u s e _ p e o p l e _ h a v e _ t o _ t y p e _ i t .

    All consoles (PS4 and Xbox) come with a mic so in game we can use area/group chat and mail, outside of this there is console messaging and party chat. Not currently needing a keyboard, it would be just as annoying to have one as it would be to use the on screen typing tools so unless there were real benefits I am currently not aware of, I'd prefer not to use it.

    Ps4 messaging chat HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Nobody uses that.
    Edited by Kalante on July 14, 2016 10:04AM
  • BackFreckle
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    This is absolutely

    .........................................SMURFTASTIC! ..........................

    Lol i agree xD
    Edited by BackFreckle on July 14, 2016 1:30PM
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    Morzann - High Elf Nightblade
    Orik - Nord Dragonknight
    Oromis - High Elf Sorcerer
    Ellaria Sand - Redguard Sorcerer
    Solara - Dark Elf Dragonknight
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    Lady Pakura - Dark Elf Dragonknight
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    AD//PS4//NA
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  • BackFreckle
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    Wolfsong wrote: »
    Can anyone confirm or deny if typing in the commands for emotes will work? I am on console and that would make my life a lot easier in regards to finding and using emotes not on my quick wheel.
    Yes, you will be able to just type in an emote command into the text chat window.
    MarcoPolo wrote: »
    Can it be switched off so the chat box doesnt show even if people are talking/typing whatever? Because for me this is just usless junk to cover parts of my screen
    Yep, you'll be able to turn it off if you'd like. It's not mandatory to use.
    I really hope its on by default otherwise People wont know they can use it.
    It will actually be off by default. We understand your concern, though, and will likely at least mention it on the Message of the Day when you begin the game.
    Any word on if you'll be able to type without going into the menu and typing through there?
    (ie presssing enter on a keyboard or something on controller)
    Edited by BackFreckle on July 14, 2016 1:33PM
    Lara Dorren - Breton Templar
    Morzann - High Elf Nightblade
    Orik - Nord Dragonknight
    Oromis - High Elf Sorcerer
    Ellaria Sand - Redguard Sorcerer
    Solara - Dark Elf Dragonknight
    N'guvu Mojeda - Khajiit Sorcerer
    Lady Pakura - Dark Elf Dragonknight
    Solembum - Khajiit Drafonknight
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  • Hammy01
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    bareheiny wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    bareheiny wrote: »
    bareheiny wrote: »
    Wait what?

    Navigate a menu to access?
    Full screen overlay for typing?


    What the hell ZOS? If this really this the case, you've taken a great idea and you've made it....not even mediocre. It sound so horrible that I may not even bother....and I've been waiting for text chat since launch.

    :(

    you had to see this coming, when you text on your Phone it does the same thing, consoles are not designed with Keyboards in mind initially so how would the Controller users navigate Texting just using the chat windowpane and their Controller??
    DCUO.

    Text chat is functional, easily accessible, window is resizeable (definitely does not default to full screen). Granted, using the virtual keyboard does cause a bigger overlay to appear....but really, if you're going to make use of text chat who wouldn't get the chat pad or a keyboard?

    With all due respect, it's not about what you "expect" other people to do. For example, they added Voice chat to consoles which we (PC) have to use a third party program to get in the first place. You guys got that off the bat because they "expected" that to be what most players would use, but instead most began wailing about Text chat.

    Your move.

    No, no no...

    most did not complain, there were a few vocal crybabies that just...couldnt...live....without .....text.
    I seem to recall a fair few vocal anti-text folk. You know, the kind of people who just cannot live with text chat being an option.

    Those people are probable the ones making a killing of the current Guild Trader system and they absolutely do not want any competition.... which text chat will be.

    Hammy!!
  • Hammy01
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    disintegr8 wrote: »
    I don't think PS4 needs text chat but if people wish to use it, so be it - I'll just leave it turned off. The first thing that I turned off in the game was area chat as there is already more rubbish being spoken out there than I can handle, text chat might just be more of the same - o n l y _ a r r i v i n g _ s l o w e r _ b e c a u s e _ p e o p l e _ h a v e _ t o _ t y p e _ i t .

    All consoles (PS4 and Xbox) come with a mic so in game we can use area/group chat and mail, outside of this there is console messaging and party chat. Not currently needing a keyboard, it would be just as annoying to have one as it would be to use the on screen typing tools so unless there were real benefits I am currently not aware of, I'd prefer not to use it.

    No offense but when people like you just turn off area chat and soon to come text chat... you make the game feel more like a single player than a MMORPG and it is for that reason that spontaneous PUG's are much harder to get going because asking in area chat or soon to be text chat falls on deaf ears because nobody has them turned on!!

    I really hope people leave the text chat on as you can miss out on a lot of fun stuff and not to mention some really good deals on gear/crafting supplies.... (IE - /say "Selling Kutas for 5k a pop").


    Hammy!!

  • BackFreckle
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    Hammy01 wrote: »
    disintegr8 wrote: »
    I don't think PS4 needs text chat but if people wish to use it, so be it - I'll just leave it turned off. The first thing that I turned off in the game was area chat as there is already more rubbish being spoken out there than I can handle, text chat might just be more of the same - o n l y _ a r r i v i n g _ s l o w e r _ b e c a u s e _ p e o p l e _ h a v e _ t o _ t y p e _ i t .

    All consoles (PS4 and Xbox) come with a mic so in game we can use area/group chat and mail, outside of this there is console messaging and party chat. Not currently needing a keyboard, it would be just as annoying to have one as it would be to use the on screen typing tools so unless there were real benefits I am currently not aware of, I'd prefer not to use it.

    No offense but when people like you just turn off area chat and soon to come text chat... you make the game feel more like a single player than a MMORPG and it is for that reason that spontaneous PUG's are much harder to get going because asking in area chat or soon to be text chat falls on deaf ears because nobody has them turned on!!

    I really hope people leave the text chat on as you can miss out on a lot of fun stuff and not to mention some really good deals on gear/crafting supplies.... (IE - /say "Selling Kutas for 5k a pop").


    Hammy!!
    they wont (gina just said theyll have it off as default) she did say that theyll make it known that there is text chat but i hope that people give it a try or at least turn it on during dungeons or other group content. there would be nothing more annoying than a pug who doesnt have text chat on and isnt in group chat because "immersion" or whatever

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    Morzann - High Elf Nightblade
    Orik - Nord Dragonknight
    Oromis - High Elf Sorcerer
    Ellaria Sand - Redguard Sorcerer
    Solara - Dark Elf Dragonknight
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    Lady Pakura - Dark Elf Dragonknight
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    First ....
    Glad that the feature is coming as there was a bunch of threads for and against the idea.
    From PTS concepts, and dev comments, this seems to be the best way to offer the feature.


    Now as far as its impact...
    Everyone has to remind themselves that these communication options are only "options."

    Reality is this:
    -Some will never chat in game via text or voice
    -some will always chat in game via text and voice
    -some will only do one or the other
    -some will prompt interactions with emotes, but fall into one or no other categories
    -some will continue to use social media for guild and trade (Xbox has Facebook friend look )up and seemingly a Twitter option that's not the same as well as incoming Xbox Communities.


    I do know that you'll want to make sure initially that you're not expecting PC-like experiences from the incoming text chat. This is going to be a console-like text chat experience diluted as its turned off by default (which it should be) and hopefully this doesn't bring upon ram issues.

    Another game were testing has a ram component tied to text chat in a game that offers both

    I'm more interested in how the linking of items and zone-wide or non-zone wide text chat will work.
    How are the recent interactions for voice merged with text and what not to expect.

    This begs for a few dev videos on this specific topic of possible @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    I'm more interested in how the linking of items and zone-wide or non-zone wide text chat will work.
    How are the recent interactions for voice merged with text and what not to expect.

    This begs for a few dev videos on this specific topic of possible
    We plan on publishing an article on the website prior to Update 11 on console that will (hopefully) answer everyone's questions. ;)
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  • EZgoin76
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    First ....
    Glad that the feature is coming as there was a bunch of threads for and against the idea.
    From PTS concepts, and dev comments, this seems to be the best way to offer the feature.


    Now as far as its impact...
    Everyone has to remind themselves that these communication options are only "options."

    Reality is this:
    -Some will never chat in game via text or voice
    -some will always chat in game via text and voice
    -some will only do one or the other
    -some will prompt interactions with emotes, but fall into one or no other categories
    -some will continue to use social media for guild and trade (Xbox has Facebook friend look )up and seemingly a Twitter option that's not the same as well as incoming Xbox Communities.


    I do know that you'll want to make sure initially that you're not expecting PC-like experiences from the incoming text chat. This is going to be a console-like text chat experience diluted as its turned off by default (which it should be) and hopefully this doesn't bring upon ram issues.

    Another game were testing has a ram component tied to text chat in a game that offers both

    I'm more interested in how the linking of items and zone-wide or non-zone wide text chat will work.
    How are the recent interactions for voice merged with text and what not to expect.

    This begs for a few dev videos on this specific topic of possible @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    This is all a bunch of conjecture because as usual you have no idea and speak on things your only guessing about.

    Until zos post the video with all the details, then none of us know anything. Even what's on PTS right now isn't a finalized version. So keep on guessing. We all know how you feel about this subject.

    Edit: Btw.... how does having it off by default dilute the actual feature. The short answer is.... it doesn't.
    And NO IT SHOULDN'T be turned off by default. Is voice chat turned off by default? I honestly think this is an ignorant decision.
    @MissBizz thread on this subject answers a few of these questions.
    Edited by EZgoin76 on July 14, 2016 3:22PM
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  • bebynnag
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    i honestly cant see how text chat can benefit us as a community in ways that area chat doesnt already.

    trading was mentioned, trading happens in area chat all the time, how will getting text chat suddenly allow that? it already happens

    forming groups, again this can happen in area chat. admittedly a lot of people turn of area chat, myself included, maybe this is because im into heavy metal & im sick of listening to drum & bass being pounded into my ears. admittedly it will be difficult for someone to do this over text chat,

    of couse text chat will benefit those who are shy, have social anxiety, dont own mic's, hate the sound of their own voice. and i appriciate that, and genuinley feel they have a valid argument.
    that said as someone with severe social anxiety IRL. being forced to use voice chat so i can do the content i want, in the game i love has helped me. and hiding behind a wall of text chat (like i used to in other games) only perpetuated my condition.

    but ignoring the social & community aspects of text chat and lets focus on the practicality of it.

    PC players 'typically' sit much closer to their monitors - so text chat is a small un-intrusive thing in the corner of their screen.

    console players 'typically' sit further away from their TV's - so text chat needs to be larger or no one will be able to read it,

    and if we look at the OP's photo thats exactly what it is, which if you are stood around trading, or RPing, or socialising is fine. if your in PvP, or vet dungeon, or a trial, that big wall of text can block a visual cue you may otherwise have that something is about to happen.

    as i have said i am happy that the people who wanted it got it, i am also happy that it can be switched off,

    because when i have an opinion i like to share it with people. not force it on them.
  • Molag_Crow
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno Good call on (hopefully) putting a message up about the text chat on console, rather than the forums, since I'm aware that most console players do not have a forum account/visit the forums.

    Even a little message about Combat Text/Nameplates/Healthbars would also make them more aware, as they were switched off by default as well. :p
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  • qrichou
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    Can or is it used as a pvp tool to ,coördinate players not in a group ?
    if so how is it working?
    Will this chat be modded , because then if have to type as if im texting to my Dear granny .
    because its possible
  • menedhyn
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    i honestly cant see how text chat can benefit us as a community in ways that area chat doesnt already
    I see it as an additional benefit, and one that compliments area chat for those who wish to use that function. If it means players who had previously chosen not to communicate vocally in-game now have an opportunity to converse through text, that seems like a positive additional outcome to me.
    console players 'typically' sit further away from their TV's
    This only dawned on me yesterday! I feel such an idiot...

  • EZgoin76
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    Why are you guys rehashing the exact same questions that have been asked and answered about a hundred times or better on these forums?

    I'm at work and on my phone so I don't have the time or the thumb dexterity to answer them. If someone doesn't beat me to it, I'll do it as soon as I get home.
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  • bebynnag
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    paganach wrote: »
    i honestly cant see how text chat can benefit us as a community in ways that area chat doesnt already
    I see it as an additional benefit, and one that compliments area chat for those who wish to use that function. If it means players who had previously chosen not to communicate vocally in-game now have an opportunity to converse through text, that seems like a positive additional outcome to me.
    console players 'typically' sit further away from their TV's
    This only dawned on me yesterday! I feel such an idiot...

    what i meant by 'benefit us in ways that chat doesnt already'

    was i have seen in other threads how people feel chat is limiting communication, where as as text encourages communication, and they offen list examples of things you can do with text. and im always dumbfounded because they are things that can also be done with chat.

    i do agree that increasing the ways we can communicate with one another is only a good thing,
    as you say it an additional way of communicating, its not as if text chat is suddenly going to allow us to communicate in ways we couldnt before. i am unaware of any words/phrases that can be typed but cannot be spoken.
    and i am aware there are many & varying reasons why chat is not an option for some players, and as i have said i am happy for those players.

    re: console players sitting further away, when my monitor broke a few years ago i decided to set up my PC to my TV. and for solo games it was great, my sofa always was more comfrtable than my desk chair.
    but when i started playing a co op game (forget what it was) which used text chat, i could not read the writting i was so far away.
    so i knew that text chat on console would need to be larger than PC for it to function correctly.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    EZgoin76 wrote: »
    First ....
    Glad that the feature is coming as there was a bunch of threads for and against the idea.
    From PTS concepts, and dev comments, this seems to be the best way to offer the feature.


    Now as far as its impact...
    Everyone has to remind themselves that these communication options are only "options."

    Reality is this:
    -Some will never chat in game via text or voice
    -some will always chat in game via text and voice
    -some will only do one or the other
    -some will prompt interactions with emotes, but fall into one or no other categories
    -some will continue to use social media for guild and trade (Xbox has Facebook friend look )up and seemingly a Twitter option that's not the same as well as incoming Xbox Communities.


    I do know that you'll want to make sure initially that you're not expecting PC-like experiences from the incoming text chat. This is going to be a console-like text chat experience diluted as its turned off by default (which it should be) and hopefully this doesn't bring upon ram issues.

    Another game were testing has a ram component tied to text chat in a game that offers both

    I'm more interested in how the linking of items and zone-wide or non-zone wide text chat will work.
    How are the recent interactions for voice merged with text and what not to expect.

    This begs for a few dev videos on this specific topic of possible @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    This is all a bunch of conjecture because as usual you have no idea and speak on things your only guessing about.

    Until zos post the video with all the details, then none of us know anything. Even what's on PTS right now isn't a finalized version. So keep on guessing. We all know how you feel about this subject.

    Edit: Btw.... how does having it off by default dilute the actual feature. The short answer is.... it doesn't.
    And NO IT SHOULDN'T be turned off by default. Is voice chat turned off by default? I honestly think this is an ignorant decision.
    @MissBizz thread on this subject answers a few of these questions.

    @EZgoin76

    Respect your opinion but it's not conjecture. Also, please don't keep applying your assumptions to my opinions cause in your comments, it's comes off as arggressive when you prob don't intend it to be.


    Having it off by default dilutes this because communication only works when its occurring between two or more. Just as in voice chat being off dilutes the actual effectiveness of voice chat, the same applies to text chat.

    Voice chat is on by default until turned off while text chat is off until turned on by default. Tow conversations at the same time at different rates is chaotic.

    When we port or travel today the voice chat kicks us out of group chat and guild chat usually and places us into proximity chat. Then it requires us to go back in. That takes away from the feature too and this isn't fixed.

    Not having text chat on by default is similar.
    While your opinion is that text chat should be on by default my opinion is that it should be off by default because I personally don't want to see it which is why my proximity voice chat is also off until I choose to turn it on.

    ZOS isn't going to please everyone with any mix and match of on or off by default so less frictions is best. This feature didn't exist so when it's added it'll prob notify us that we can turn it on kinda like SCT is off by default or name plates, etc.

    It makes perfect sense. Ppl who want these things will change their settings and be happy while those who didn't want these can continue without interruptions.



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  • EZgoin76
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    EZgoin76 wrote: »
    First ....
    Glad that the feature is coming as there was a bunch of threads for and against the idea.
    From PTS concepts, and dev comments, this seems to be the best way to offer the feature.


    Now as far as its impact...
    Everyone has to remind themselves that these communication options are only "options."

    Reality is this:
    -Some will never chat in game via text or voice
    -some will always chat in game via text and voice
    -some will only do one or the other
    -some will prompt interactions with emotes, but fall into one or no other categories
    -some will continue to use social media for guild and trade (Xbox has Facebook friend look )up and seemingly a Twitter option that's not the same as well as incoming Xbox Communities.


    I do know that you'll want to make sure initially that you're not expecting PC-like experiences from the incoming text chat. This is going to be a console-like text chat experience diluted as its turned off by default (which it should be) and hopefully this doesn't bring upon ram issues.

    Another game were testing has a ram component tied to text chat in a game that offers both

    I'm more interested in how the linking of items and zone-wide or non-zone wide text chat will work.
    How are the recent interactions for voice merged with text and what not to expect.

    This begs for a few dev videos on this specific topic of possible @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    This is all a bunch of conjecture because as usual you have no idea and speak on things your only guessing about.

    Until zos post the video with all the details, then none of us know anything. Even what's on PTS right now isn't a finalized version. So keep on guessing. We all know how you feel about this subject.

    Edit: Btw.... how does having it off by default dilute the actual feature. The short answer is.... it doesn't.
    And NO IT SHOULDN'T be turned off by default. Is voice chat turned off by default? I honestly think this is an ignorant decision.
    @MissBizz thread on this subject answers a few of these questions.

    @EZgoin76

    Respect your opinion but it's not conjecture. Also, please don't keep applying your assumptions to my opinions cause in your comments, it's comes off as arggressive when you prob don't intend it to be.


    Having it off by default dilutes this because communication only works when its occurring between two or more. Just as in voice chat being off dilutes the actual effectiveness of voice chat, the same applies to text chat.

    Voice chat is on by default until turned off while text chat is off until turned on by default. Tow conversations at the same time at different rates is chaotic.

    When we port or travel today the voice chat kicks us out of group chat and guild chat usually and places us into proximity chat. Then it requires us to go back in. That takes away from the feature too and this isn't fixed.

    Not having text chat on by default is similar.
    While your opinion is that text chat should be on by default my opinion is that it should be off by default because I personally don't want to see it which is why my proximity voice chat is also off until I choose to turn it on.

    ZOS isn't going to please everyone with any mix and match of on or off by default so less frictions is best. This feature didn't exist so when it's added it'll prob notify us that we can turn it on kinda like SCT is off by default or name plates, etc.

    It makes perfect sense. Ppl who want these things will change their settings and be happy while those who didn't want these can continue without interruptions.



    @NewBlacksmurf

    Lol I'm not assuming. Have you seen and used the final version of console text chat? That answer would be no. So yes it is conjecture on your part.

    It's also conjecture on your part by assuming what people will do and how the feature will be used.

    Guess we'll agree to disagree yet again.


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    Edited by ZOS_DaryaK on July 14, 2016 6:57PM
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  • DragonSamurai360
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    EZgoin76 wrote: »
    EZgoin76 wrote: »
    First ....
    Glad that the feature is coming as there was a bunch of threads for and against the idea.
    From PTS concepts, and dev comments, this seems to be the best way to offer the feature.


    Now as far as its impact...
    Everyone has to remind themselves that these communication options are only "options."

    Reality is this:
    -Some will never chat in game via text or voice
    -some will always chat in game via text and voice
    -some will only do one or the other
    -some will prompt interactions with emotes, but fall into one or no other categories
    -some will continue to use social media for guild and trade (Xbox has Facebook friend look )up and seemingly a Twitter option that's not the same as well as incoming Xbox Communities.


    I do know that you'll want to make sure initially that you're not expecting PC-like experiences from the incoming text chat. This is going to be a console-like text chat experience diluted as its turned off by default (which it should be) and hopefully this doesn't bring upon ram issues.

    Another game were testing has a ram component tied to text chat in a game that offers both

    I'm more interested in how the linking of items and zone-wide or non-zone wide text chat will work.
    How are the recent interactions for voice merged with text and what not to expect.

    This begs for a few dev videos on this specific topic of possible @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    This is all a bunch of conjecture because as usual you have no idea and speak on things your only guessing about.

    Until zos post the video with all the details, then none of us know anything. Even what's on PTS right now isn't a finalized version. So keep on guessing. We all know how you feel about this subject.

    Edit: Btw.... how does having it off by default dilute the actual feature. The short answer is.... it doesn't.
    And NO IT SHOULDN'T be turned off by default. Is voice chat turned off by default? I honestly think this is an ignorant decision.
    @MissBizz thread on this subject answers a few of these questions.

    @EZgoin76

    Respect your opinion but it's not conjecture. Also, please don't keep applying your assumptions to my opinions cause in your comments, it's comes off as arggressive when you prob don't intend it to be.


    Having it off by default dilutes this because communication only works when its occurring between two or more. Just as in voice chat being off dilutes the actual effectiveness of voice chat, the same applies to text chat.

    Voice chat is on by default until turned off while text chat is off until turned on by default. Tow conversations at the same time at different rates is chaotic.

    When we port or travel today the voice chat kicks us out of group chat and guild chat usually and places us into proximity chat. Then it requires us to go back in. That takes away from the feature too and this isn't fixed.

    Not having text chat on by default is similar.
    While your opinion is that text chat should be on by default my opinion is that it should be off by default because I personally don't want to see it which is why my proximity voice chat is also off until I choose to turn it on.

    ZOS isn't going to please everyone with any mix and match of on or off by default so less frictions is best. This feature didn't exist so when it's added it'll prob notify us that we can turn it on kinda like SCT is off by default or name plates, etc.

    It makes perfect sense. Ppl who want these things will change their settings and be happy while those who didn't want these can continue without interruptions.



    @NewBlacksmurf

    Lol I'm not assuming. Have you seen and used the final version of console text chat? That answer would be no. So yes it is conjecture on your part.

    It's also conjecture on your part by assuming what people will do and how the feature will be used.

    Guess we'll agree to disagree yet again.

    Well I know what I am going to do with console text chat, and that's going to be to communicate with the game's community, as I am 99.9% of the time I can play games unable to use a microphone so in a sense console text will be my only way to communicate with other players in game. I do have a fancy premium headset and that's the Astro A50 Limited Edition Halo MCC Dolby Digital 7.1 Surround Sound, which is so much immersive, seductive, and even scares the c**p out of me sometimes because of the 7.1 surround sound that makes enemies popping out of nowhere really noticeable and well in ESO's case re-spawning and I didn't see them re-spawn. Reason why I say seductive as a term for the headset is NOT in any sort of sexual matter, but the fact it really lures you into the game and before you know it it's 8 and a half hours later and you realize you are getting the low battery notification and half to get some sleep for the next day. In my opinion the Astro brand of headsets is the way games were meant to sound like, they are constructed very well and sound like the most amazing thing ever. Well on the point of why I brought up the headset part and that's, because I was able to use my Microphone once, so I go into area chat in Stonefalls one time on Xbox One NA to try and see if someone would negotiate on a deal for some Rawhide and somebody(don't ask me who it was, I don't remember, as this was like a year ago) is blowing a bunch of Rap music into the darned voice chat, I haven't touched area chat since. Yes the music came in so strong into my headset not volume wise, but in a more all around EQ setting way that I felt like I was going to be sick to my stomach. Now before anyone bashes me for being against Rap music, I don't have anything against people who listen to Rap, but I myself can't stand it and will refuse to listen to it. I did use my Microphone once again recently with a friend I met in game as a test for it, as there seems to be quite a few complaints on how the A50's Microphone sounds to other people, but he said I sounded crystal clear and good, so I don't know, but text chat will be very nice since I am able to rarely use my Mic, and in this case since I can type very fast with a keyboard and with two fingers, it will come in handy with content like the 2-4 player dungeons and so forth, which I can't play right now due to my inability to use a Mic.

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  • EZgoin76
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    I actually use my mic from the time I turn eso on, until I turn it off. I don't mind one bit talking to other people except that fact that 90% of the people in chat could use a larger vocabulary. F this, f that isn't much of a conversation imo. If a person is to ignorant to carry on a conversation without cussing every other word, I don't want to talk to them.

    Voice chat is limited though. People can only hear you within a certain radius and if you get to many people talking within that radius, then it becomes chaotic at best.

    Text chat works beyond those limitations. I'll be able to communicate with people on the other side of the zone and no matter how many people are talking, I can easily decipher who it is I'm talking to.

    Those of you that don't use both forms of communication are only limiting yourselves.
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  • bareheiny
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    I'd rather have on by default at launch....make it obvious that it's available, then players can disable it if they want.

    It shouldn't be obtrusive, as I would expect that it fades quickly...and only appears when there are messages.


    And I've been able to successfully hold conversations with mic users in that other game...they talk, I type. Occasionally they miss my response, and that's all good.


    I do wonder if those of us on the EU server will use it more than our NA brethren.
  • hamburgerler76
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    I'm more interested in how the linking of items and zone-wide or non-zone wide text chat will work.
    How are the recent interactions for voice merged with text and what not to expect.

    This begs for a few dev videos on this specific topic of possible
    We plan on publishing an article on the website prior to Update 11 on console that will (hopefully) answer everyone's questions. ;)

    thanks so much for the answers Gina! cant wait to see more about it as i play with controller on pc and i <3 it so far!
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