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For console ppl here is how text chat works! For those not on PTS. now with pictures!
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Rhazmuz✭✭✭hamburgerler76 wrote: »Wait what?
Navigate a menu to access?
Full screen overlay for typing?
What the hell ZOS? If this really this the case, you've taken a great idea and you've made it....not even mediocre. It sound so horrible that I may not even bother....and I've been waiting for text chat since launch.
Agree, on consoles we should simply be able to hit enter (if we have a keyboard connected) and then be able to enter text. This having to go in via the menu is silly...
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any chance you can comment on exactly how the final functionality for the console text chat will be?
Both when you have a keyboard connected, and if you want to use on screen keyboard/smartphone.
if you take time to read comments its fully explained in this thread
You explain that we have to go into start menu, and then press a button in order to bring up the chat window and be able to chat. That is fine.
However I would like it where I can simply press enter at any time, on a connected keyboard, and be able to type, without having to go through start menu etc.
I see no one saying that the latter is possible, which is why I ask if it might be possible when it is released, or if the current state is working as intended.
Or did I miss something?Edited by Rhazmuz on July 12, 2016 8:48AMRhazmuz - Nord DK tank
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hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭hamburgerler76 wrote: »Wait what?
Navigate a menu to access?
Full screen overlay for typing?
What the hell ZOS? If this really this the case, you've taken a great idea and you've made it....not even mediocre. It sound so horrible that I may not even bother....and I've been waiting for text chat since launch.
Agree, on consoles we should simply be able to hit enter (if we have a keyboard connected) and then be able to enter text. This having to go in via the menu is silly...
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any chance you can comment on exactly how the final functionality for the console text chat will be?
Both when you have a keyboard connected, and if you want to use on screen keyboard/smartphone.
if you take time to read comments its fully explained in this thread
You explain that we have to go into start menu, and then press a button in order to bring up the chat window and be able to chat. That is fine.
However I would like it where I can simply press enter at any time, on a connected keyboard, and be able to type, without having to go through start menu etc.
I see no one saying that the latter is possible, which is why I ask if it might be possible when it is released, or if the current state is working as intended.
Or did I miss something?
i did state that doing so on the pc while i was in the controller UI when hitting enter on the keyboard did allow me to type directly into the chat box and forgo the start,x,type route0 -
Rhazmuz✭✭✭hamburgerler76 wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »Wait what?
Navigate a menu to access?
Full screen overlay for typing?
What the hell ZOS? If this really this the case, you've taken a great idea and you've made it....not even mediocre. It sound so horrible that I may not even bother....and I've been waiting for text chat since launch.
Agree, on consoles we should simply be able to hit enter (if we have a keyboard connected) and then be able to enter text. This having to go in via the menu is silly...
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any chance you can comment on exactly how the final functionality for the console text chat will be?
Both when you have a keyboard connected, and if you want to use on screen keyboard/smartphone.
if you take time to read comments its fully explained in this thread
You explain that we have to go into start menu, and then press a button in order to bring up the chat window and be able to chat. That is fine.
However I would like it where I can simply press enter at any time, on a connected keyboard, and be able to type, without having to go through start menu etc.
I see no one saying that the latter is possible, which is why I ask if it might be possible when it is released, or if the current state is working as intended.
Or did I miss something?
i did state that doing so on the pc while i was in the controller UI when hitting enter on the keyboard did allow me to type directly into the chat box and forgo the start,x,type route
Ahh ok, sorry, I must have missed that part..
Well thank you for clarifying, glad that functionality is in there.
And lastly thank you for taking the time to enlighten us about this feature
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hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭Clerics1985 wrote: »
DCUO.Clerics1985 wrote: »Wait what?
Navigate a menu to access?
Full screen overlay for typing?
What the hell ZOS? If this really this the case, you've taken a great idea and you've made it....not even mediocre. It sound so horrible that I may not even bother....and I've been waiting for text chat since launch.
you had to see this coming, when you text on your Phone it does the same thing, consoles are not designed with Keyboards in mind initially so how would the Controller users navigate Texting just using the chat windowpane and their Controller??
Text chat is functional, easily accessible, window is resizeable (definitely does not default to full screen). Granted, using the virtual keyboard does cause a bigger overlay to appear....but really, if you're going to make use of text chat who wouldn't get the chat pad or a keyboard?
With all due respect, it's not about what you "expect" other people to do. For example, they added Voice chat to consoles which we (PC) have to use a third party program to get in the first place. You guys got that off the bat because they "expected" that to be what most players would use, but instead most began wailing about Text chat.
Your move.
Don't even try to sit in the victim seat here. You PC players have all the bells and whistles at your disposal. You know it!
Add ons, third party voice programs(MANY ARE FREE and work far better than this in game voip stuff), customisable UI, better graphics, etc etc... and you're going to sit there and basically put the shame game on us for requesting a standard format that you use on a regular basis? The hell? lol
Don't sit there acting like you are lacking options when clearly we have the lesser here. We get what ever they give to us. That's it.
At least make it viable. Start,go to menu, scroll to this , click that. Really?
Just put an option to display on screen or not!
Done! How hard is that?
Apparently too hard.
If they're going to give us what we actually requested, at least give us what we ACTUALLY requested. And I don't mean some ridiculous and inefficient method to type with. How hard is it to mimic the pc versions text box? Instead they brainstorm for another way. Why?
It makes no sense.
like i said from the start you can read and enter the chat box from the screen without going threw the start menu if you have keyboard hooked up to it to hit enter on you also make the other way seem like a ridicules and long adventure its 2 steps to get there without just hitting enter you hit start then hit X or square depending on console and boom your ready to start typing it takes 2 secs and really is no different then what pc has it actually works very well. the only place it might be a prob is mid battle as you would have to stop and open menu but you shouldnt be typing at that point anyway. and like i said you can just hit enter and pull up the mini chat box like pc has if you have a keyboard and that gets rid of the mid battle problem right there.0 -
Riga_Mortis✭✭✭✭✭hamburgerler76 wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »Wait what?
Navigate a menu to access?
Full screen overlay for typing?
What the hell ZOS? If this really this the case, you've taken a great idea and you've made it....not even mediocre. It sound so horrible that I may not even bother....and I've been waiting for text chat since launch.
Agree, on consoles we should simply be able to hit enter (if we have a keyboard connected) and then be able to enter text. This having to go in via the menu is silly...
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any chance you can comment on exactly how the final functionality for the console text chat will be?
Both when you have a keyboard connected, and if you want to use on screen keyboard/smartphone.
if you take time to read comments its fully explained in this thread
You explain that we have to go into start menu, and then press a button in order to bring up the chat window and be able to chat. That is fine.
However I would like it where I can simply press enter at any time, on a connected keyboard, and be able to type, without having to go through start menu etc.
I see no one saying that the latter is possible, which is why I ask if it might be possible when it is released, or if the current state is working as intended.
Or did I miss something?
i did state that doing so on the pc while i was in the controller UI when hitting enter on the keyboard did allow me to type directly into the chat box and forgo the start,x,type route
Hopefully this is the route they have taken with console UI and keyboard.
And thanks hamburgler for taking the time to answer our questions.XBOX 1X
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Rhazmuz✭✭✭hamburgerler76 wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »Wait what?
Navigate a menu to access?
Full screen overlay for typing?
What the hell ZOS? If this really this the case, you've taken a great idea and you've made it....not even mediocre. It sound so horrible that I may not even bother....and I've been waiting for text chat since launch.
Agree, on consoles we should simply be able to hit enter (if we have a keyboard connected) and then be able to enter text. This having to go in via the menu is silly...
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any chance you can comment on exactly how the final functionality for the console text chat will be?
Both when you have a keyboard connected, and if you want to use on screen keyboard/smartphone.
if you take time to read comments its fully explained in this thread
You explain that we have to go into start menu, and then press a button in order to bring up the chat window and be able to chat. That is fine.
However I would like it where I can simply press enter at any time, on a connected keyboard, and be able to type, without having to go through start menu etc.
I see no one saying that the latter is possible, which is why I ask if it might be possible when it is released, or if the current state is working as intended.
Or did I miss something?
i did state that doing so on the pc while i was in the controller UI when hitting enter on the keyboard did allow me to type directly into the chat box and forgo the start,x,type route
Hopefully this is the route they have taken with console UI and keyboard.
And thanks hamburgler for taking the time to answer our questions.
Guess it might soon be time for you to sub again?
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Riga_Mortis✭✭✭✭✭hamburgerler76 wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »Wait what?
Navigate a menu to access?
Full screen overlay for typing?
What the hell ZOS? If this really this the case, you've taken a great idea and you've made it....not even mediocre. It sound so horrible that I may not even bother....and I've been waiting for text chat since launch.
Agree, on consoles we should simply be able to hit enter (if we have a keyboard connected) and then be able to enter text. This having to go in via the menu is silly...
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any chance you can comment on exactly how the final functionality for the console text chat will be?
Both when you have a keyboard connected, and if you want to use on screen keyboard/smartphone.
if you take time to read comments its fully explained in this thread
You explain that we have to go into start menu, and then press a button in order to bring up the chat window and be able to chat. That is fine.
However I would like it where I can simply press enter at any time, on a connected keyboard, and be able to type, without having to go through start menu etc.
I see no one saying that the latter is possible, which is why I ask if it might be possible when it is released, or if the current state is working as intended.
Or did I miss something?
i did state that doing so on the pc while i was in the controller UI when hitting enter on the keyboard did allow me to type directly into the chat box and forgo the start,x,type route
Hopefully this is the route they have taken with console UI and keyboard.
And thanks hamburgler for taking the time to answer our questions.
Guess it might soon be time for you to sub again?
Lol guess so XBOX 1X
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hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭hamburgerler76 wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »Wait what?
Navigate a menu to access?
Full screen overlay for typing?
What the hell ZOS? If this really this the case, you've taken a great idea and you've made it....not even mediocre. It sound so horrible that I may not even bother....and I've been waiting for text chat since launch.
Agree, on consoles we should simply be able to hit enter (if we have a keyboard connected) and then be able to enter text. This having to go in via the menu is silly...
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any chance you can comment on exactly how the final functionality for the console text chat will be?
Both when you have a keyboard connected, and if you want to use on screen keyboard/smartphone.
if you take time to read comments its fully explained in this thread
You explain that we have to go into start menu, and then press a button in order to bring up the chat window and be able to chat. That is fine.
However I would like it where I can simply press enter at any time, on a connected keyboard, and be able to type, without having to go through start menu etc.
I see no one saying that the latter is possible, which is why I ask if it might be possible when it is released, or if the current state is working as intended.
Or did I miss something?
i did state that doing so on the pc while i was in the controller UI when hitting enter on the keyboard did allow me to type directly into the chat box and forgo the start,x,type route
Hopefully this is the route they have taken with console UI and keyboard.
And thanks hamburgler for taking the time to answer our questions.
no problem guys i used to play on console i know how it is playing with out text chat and when i saw it on PTS finally i was like well i know most console players are not gonna buy a gaming pc and rebuy eso for pc just to test out text chat so figured i might as well try XD2 -
hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭Snowstrider wrote: »I really hope its on by default otherwise People wont know they can use it.
it is on from the start! it doesnt tell you hit enter to type in text chat or anything though but when you hit start and open the UI it does say hit x to open text chat in place of where it says press x to open quick chat emotes now at the bottom.0 -
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✭Hopefully the final version is vastly different from the first look on PTS, we need it to be simple and like on PC or it will be next to useless.
This confirms that this isn't the final version though
ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »
Are you referring to what the gamepad mode text chat currently looks like on the PTS? If so, it's not a good representation of what it will look like when fully in the game on consoles. We'll see if we can get you a screenshot of what it actually looks like.
I'll leave this here. Can't wait to see how it will look on consoles on August 16th~ Gryphon Heart ~
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hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭Hopefully the final version is vastly different from the first look on PTS, we need it to be simple and like on PC or it will be next to useless.
This confirms that this isn't the final version though
ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »
Are you referring to what the gamepad mode text chat currently looks like on the PTS? If so, it's not a good representation of what it will look like when fully in the game on consoles. We'll see if we can get you a screenshot of what it actually looks like.
I'll leave this here. Can't wait to see how it will look on consoles on August 16th
glad to hear as the current version isnt bad just a bit different guess will have to wait for final version0 -
GreenhaloX✭✭✭✭✭
✭Haaa.. it's still not that easy to type using a controller than on a keyboard or even on an onscreen keyboard. I'm not making any complaint, since I'm on a console and probably not use the text chat anyways.. just throwing it out there. Unless, Sony comes out with an option to be able to plug in a physical keyboard into the PS4 console. Yeah, right..0 -
IwakuraLain42✭✭✭✭✭You know that you can actually plug in any USB keyboard or use most Bluetooth keyboards with your PS4 already?3 -
DPG76✭✭✭Clerics1985 wrote: »Wait what?
Navigate a menu to access?
Full screen overlay for typing?
What the hell ZOS? If this really this the case, you've taken a great idea and you've made it....not even mediocre. It sound so horrible that I may not even bother....and I've been waiting for text chat since launch.
you had to see this coming, when you text on your Phone it does the same thing, consoles are not designed with Keyboards in mind initially so how would the Controller users navigate Texting just using the chat windowpane and their Controller??
not true about the console keyboard thing , an other mmo exists since ps3 and still there with a normal pc like text chat ..
But gotta say it's a SONY entertainment game so its easy for them to do this on their own system0 -
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✭IwakuraLain42 wrote: »You know that you can actually plug in any USB keyboard or use most Bluetooth keyboards with your PS4 already?
Get out.. really?! I did not know that. I'm still technologically challenged. I guess I will be scrubbing Amazon for a PS4-compatible keyboard then. Heck, this is my first MMORPG, if this is consider such or similar in variance, and I just bought a headset for the PS4 so I can be able to chat, but I'm still trying to figure out how to get the headset to work. Not sure if it's plugged into the right slot of not.. definitely not a tech geek here. Lol!0 -
devilsTear wrote: »Is it possible to to type using the psn app on my phone or do have to use a controller or keyboard?
I don't see why not. I can use it when editing my guild message and anything that uses the ps4 keyboard.Be strong, be patient, and most importantly, don't trust that fart.0 -
Bonzodog01✭✭✭✭✭GreenhaloX wrote: »IwakuraLain42 wrote: »You know that you can actually plug in any USB keyboard or use most Bluetooth keyboards with your PS4 already?
Get out.. really?! I did not know that. I'm still technologically challenged. I guess I will be scrubbing Amazon for a PS4-compatible keyboard then. Heck, this is my first MMORPG, if this is consider such or similar in variance, and I just bought a headset for the PS4 so I can be able to chat, but I'm still trying to figure out how to get the headset to work. Not sure if it's plugged into the right slot of not.. definitely not a tech geek here. Lol!
Any standard USB wireless keyboard will work. There is a USB dongle that plugs into one of the USB ports on the console, then put batteries in the keyboard and you are good to go.Xbox One - EU - EP/DCTrying and failing to hold the walls of his Templar house up since 20150 -
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✭Bonzodog01 wrote: »GreenhaloX wrote: »IwakuraLain42 wrote: »You know that you can actually plug in any USB keyboard or use most Bluetooth keyboards with your PS4 already?
Get out.. really?! I did not know that. I'm still technologically challenged. I guess I will be scrubbing Amazon for a PS4-compatible keyboard then. Heck, this is my first MMORPG, if this is consider such or similar in variance, and I just bought a headset for the PS4 so I can be able to chat, but I'm still trying to figure out how to get the headset to work. Not sure if it's plugged into the right slot of not.. definitely not a tech geek here. Lol!
Any standard USB wireless keyboard will work. There is a USB dongle that plugs into one of the USB ports on the console, then put batteries in the keyboard and you are good to go.
Ok.. sounds good. Thanks! Now, I'm just still trying to figure how to get this headset/talking thing to work. Lol!0 -
terrordactyl1971✭✭✭✭GreenhaloX wrote: »Bonzodog01 wrote: »GreenhaloX wrote: »IwakuraLain42 wrote: »You know that you can actually plug in any USB keyboard or use most Bluetooth keyboards with your PS4 already?
Get out.. really?! I did not know that. I'm still technologically challenged. I guess I will be scrubbing Amazon for a PS4-compatible keyboard then. Heck, this is my first MMORPG, if this is consider such or similar in variance, and I just bought a headset for the PS4 so I can be able to chat, but I'm still trying to figure out how to get the headset to work. Not sure if it's plugged into the right slot of not.. definitely not a tech geek here. Lol!
Any standard USB wireless keyboard will work. There is a USB dongle that plugs into one of the USB ports on the console, then put batteries in the keyboard and you are good to go.
Ok.. sounds good. Thanks! Now, I'm just still trying to figure how to get this headset/talking thing to work. Lol!
Or just use the keyboard on your iPhone1 -
hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭yea companion apps will work in place of a keyboard if you have them linked with your console0
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✭✭The last thing I need is a keyboard balancing on the arm of my recliner while I use the PS4 controller. Will wait to see a bit more about good it works and what feedback it is given before I discount using text chat though.Australian on PS4 NA server.
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hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭disintegr8 wrote: »The last thing I need is a keyboard balancing on the arm of my recliner while I use the PS4 controller. Will wait to see a bit more about good it works and what feedback it is given before I discount using text chat though.
well the keyboard is just an option you also use the ps4 companion app on your phone or the on screen keyboard that comes up when sending msg's and such. the keyboard would be just for if you want to start typing right in game without going to the start menu and then the text chat tab0 -
hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno any chance of getting you to post that pic of what the full release of console text chat will look like in here would be very helpful? 0
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✭✭hamburgerler76 wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »GivvumBoane wrote: »hamburgerler76 wrote: »so its not like pc where you hit a button and enter a little chat box on the bottom left. You have to hit start go into the social tab and in there is a text chat option or after update 11 you can hit start then X to go directly to text chat as right now hitting start then X takes you to quick emotes after update 11 it takes you to console text chat. Once in there you hit A to start typing then when your done hit X to send. now when playing in the world chat does just pop up in a little chat box in the bottom left but to answer or respond you do have to hit start and go to that text chat tab. Just making this i have not seen any description of how text chat work for console. Also wanted to note i think its funny how the console text chat is on the PC PTS for them to test. XD
Yeah that's funny as hell.
Well not really, the two are not different whatsoever. The console version is a copy-paste of PC version without addons and controller UI enabled... This generation of consoles are on x64 platform like PC's are, heck even the latest android devices are for much easier multiplatform development. All that differs is the amount of hardware and the operating system.
not saying their different saying its funny they put it on PC pts and asked console player to take a look on there and give feed back like 99% of console players cant get on pts lol i tested this out using a control on my pc sitting like 2 feet from my monitor i assume it works great but i dont play on console so i have no feed back here nor do i play with a living room scenario
Might need to do it then, i often plug my PC into my TV and sit on the sofa, however i can only tolerate it for about 30 minutes before needing to go back to the desk, just doesn't feel right. I will do it though to test it and get the "console experience" right.
this is why i assume they went with the full screen text when actually typing i imagine that small little text box can be hard to read from across the room
Late to the party, but i wanted to mention, i have my PC hooked up to my tv. never had an issue with the text box.GreenhaloX wrote: »IwakuraLain42 wrote: »You know that you can actually plug in any USB keyboard or use most Bluetooth keyboards with your PS4 already?
Get out.. really?! I did not know that. I'm still technologically challenged. I guess I will be scrubbing Amazon for a PS4-compatible keyboard then. Heck, this is my first MMORPG, if this is consider such or similar in variance, and I just bought a headset for the PS4 so I can be able to chat, but I'm still trying to figure out how to get the headset to work. Not sure if it's plugged into the right slot of not.. definitely not a tech geek here. Lol!
A bluetooth enabled phone can also work as a keyboard.... again late, but yea....Edited by Shunravi on July 13, 2016 7:33AMThis one has an eloquent and well thought out response to tha... Ooh sweetroll!0 -
BackFreckle✭✭✭BackFreckle wrote: »
This is screenshotted straight from ESO Live last week. there will be 3 different sizes of text in the text box (small med and large, i can post if u guys want to see them) but Jessica said that there will be features for textchat they they havent talked about yet (i'll try to go back and find exact words)
Edit: this is medium sizeEdited by BackFreckle on July 13, 2016 6:55AMLara Dorren - Breton Templar
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Orik - Nord Dragonknight
Oromis - High Elf Sorcerer
Ellaria Sand - Redguard Sorcerer
Solara - Dark Elf Dragonknight
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hamburgerler76✭✭✭✭BackFreckle wrote: »BackFreckle wrote: »
This is screenshotted straight from ESO Live last week. there will be 3 different sizes of text in the text box (small med and large, i can post if u guys want to see them) but Jessica said that there will be features for textchat they they havent talked about yet (i'll try to go back and find exact words)
awsm thanks so much any photos are welcome!0 -
BackFreckle✭✭✭This is large:
This is small:
(I think having a 'large' option invalidates any argument about not being able to see it clearly enough. Also with the text box having that little bar at the bottom tells me that there might be a quick option to type with a keyboard. also x2, they were in 'say' which might mean we could potentially see something like 'say' 'zone' and maybe dedicated 'lfg' and 'trade' chat channels <- that would make me love this game wayyyy more)Edited by BackFreckle on July 13, 2016 7:09AMLara Dorren - Breton Templar
Morzann - High Elf Nightblade
Orik - Nord Dragonknight
Oromis - High Elf Sorcerer
Ellaria Sand - Redguard Sorcerer
Solara - Dark Elf Dragonknight
N'guvu Mojeda - Khajiit Sorcerer
Lady Pakura - Dark Elf Dragonknight
Solembum - Khajiit Drafonknight
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GreenhaloX wrote: »IwakuraLain42 wrote: »You know that you can actually plug in any USB keyboard or use most Bluetooth keyboards with your PS4 already?
Get out.. really?! I did not know that. I'm still technologically challenged. I guess I will be scrubbing Amazon for a PS4-compatible keyboard then. Heck, this is my first MMORPG, if this is consider such or similar in variance, and I just bought a headset for the PS4 so I can be able to chat, but I'm still trying to figure out how to get the headset to work. Not sure if it's plugged into the right slot of not.. definitely not a tech geek here. Lol!
there is also this,wich i just learned it exist
https://www.google.com.pr/search?q=ps4+chat+pad&rlz=1C1AVNG_enPR674PR674&espv=2&biw=1024&bih=643&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiUosyg-u_NAhUH7B4KHcGnB9AQsAQIJw1