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Breton Need Damage Buff

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Yes this race need damage buff, as they have lower DPS comparing Altemrs or Dunmer.

Altemrs and Dunmers are still best magicka DPS choice. Though Altemrs are very sustained as well.

Dunmer shock and frost damage buff are useless, still fire damage will be preferred instead bretons should get some damage buff.

Developers can reduce spell resistance or spell cost reduction and add 2-3-4% damage buff. This race deserves serious changes in racial passives.

Breton Spell cost reduction to 3% is a big jolk comparing Light Armor offers 3% per piece. Even champion system offers descent reduction to 16%..seducer set offers 8%..

Altmers recovery passives gives 9% and two peiece light armor offers 8% recovery and breton reduce spell cost passive 3% is offered by 1 piece light armor. Seems like totally unbalanced pasive b/w race. In longer PVP fights I am consuming lot of mag pots (having 1700 recovery, 40% spell reduction (5 piece light armor + 3% breton reduction pasive + 12% CP Reduction) + 42k Magicka). Bretons are not sustained at all (In PVE running out of Magicka and using siphoning Strikes + Pots), even running wih recovery mundus.

Now argonians are getting Healing buff so what bretons are left best at?

Currently there are three magicka focused races and breton are in last place, argonian may be 4th once receive magicka base talent with upcoming update. There are 6 stamina focused races.

Breton is beautiful human race, there are lot of bretons around. People love them and looking forward for some good racial changes.
Edited by Lord_Eomer on July 16, 2016 8:25AM
  • Minalan
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    Let's make this happen...
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Sounds good . Breton are conquers after all . Offence not defense .
  • Lord_Eomer
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    Sounds good . Breton are conquers after all . Offence not defense .

    Yes they need to have offencive passives..

    No to defence, resistance, spell reduction can get easily via lot of ways..
  • Birdovic
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    Could give them 6% Magic Damage
    and Argonians 6% Spellcrit?
    Edited by Birdovic on July 11, 2016 11:01PM
  • Lord_Eomer
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    Birdovic wrote: »
    Could give them 6% Magic Damage
    and Argonians 6% Spellcrit?

    6% damage is awesome but I doubt they will cross Altemrs. Although this will be justice with this race..

    6% spell critical is very good if they can give to argonian or breton to balance weapon crit with stamina race.

  • Lord_Eomer
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_TristanK , @ZOS_GaryA

    What bretons are left best at? This is least preferred magicka DPS race. Your response is awaited.

    Thank you,
  • Minalan
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    I imagine their thinking must be trying to balance race by alliance? So DC gets the best Stam races, and a mediocre Magicka race.

    In reality, people run whatever race they want in alliances.

    That being said, I Would be fine with 2% spell damage OR 6% cost reduction total.

    The AP bonus is just making people angry, especially the guys gunning for emperor...
    Edited by Minalan on July 11, 2016 11:26PM
  • Nifty2g
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    Good to see more threads on this issue
    #MOREORBS
  • Destruent
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    Maybe change bretons last passive so it gives 1.5k Spellresist and spellpenetration instead of 3k spellresist. This would make them a really viable choice without making them overpowered. Numbers could be changed around for balancing ofc, but i guess this could be a good point to start.
    Especially considering they don't want to give a flat magic-dmg bonus to any race.
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  • Van_0S
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    Give breton, 3% spell critical damage or 2% chance to negate a magicka cost of a spell, and remove 1% AP gain.
  • Nifty2g
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    MAKE IT HAPPEN, ZOS NEED TO UNDERSTAND @WROBEL stamina right now is so much stronger in dps
    #MOREORBS
  • Rex-Umbra
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    Rather they increase cost reduction to 9% :)
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  • Leandor
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    Fingers off my breton passives! If any, increase cost reduction a bit, maybe to 5% at 3/3.
  • Reykice
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    4% magic damage bonus on top of what they have. Would make sense while keeping altmer and dunmer best for some dps builds with bretons best for other builds. Would make all 3 viable.
  • Eejit1331
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    5% spell crit is my hope.
    Edited by Eejit1331 on July 12, 2016 4:03PM
  • Khaos_Bane
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    Give this damage bonus to the Altmer.
  • Master_Kas
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    Buff bretons! 8% spellcrit would be nice (like khajiits) or some spell penetration :)

    Atm there isn't any real reason to pick breton over dunmer/altmer.

    Edit: But let bretons keep the AP bonus please :trollface:@Nafirian
    Edited by Master_Kas on July 12, 2016 5:22PM
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  • Lord_Eomer
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    Van_0S wrote: »
    Give breton, 3% spell critical damage or 2% chance to negate a magicka cost of a spell, and remove 1% AP gain.

    Yes 1% AP gain has nothing to do with damage or have no affect on build, this race need better changes.
    Edited by Lord_Eomer on July 12, 2016 6:43PM
  • Pallio
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    7% Magic dmg. Like the Dumner fire dmg would be perfect... we don't have a "Magic" bonus for any race.
  • Lord_Eomer
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    Pallio wrote: »
    7% Magic dmg. Like the Dumner fire dmg would be perfect... we don't have a "Magic" bonus for any race.

    I wish developers take serious note on Breton changes with next patch on PTS.

    This race is underpowered comparing other Magicka DPS race.
    Edited by Lord_Eomer on July 12, 2016 6:51PM
  • luen79rwb17_ESO
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    Yes, I completely agree that Bretons need another buff. Magicka mastery by itself does not equal what other magicka-based races have, not even close.
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  • OrphanHelgen
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    when at any point, did zos give the impression even in character creation, that breton is a damage dealer?
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  • Destruent
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    when at any point, did zos give the impression even in character creation, that breton is a damage dealer?

    When at any point, did ZOS give the impression even in character creation, that bretons are useless? :wink:
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  • OrphanHelgen
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    Destruent wrote: »
    when at any point, did zos give the impression even in character creation, that breton is a damage dealer?

    When at any point, did ZOS give the impression even in character creation, that bretons are useless? :wink:

    They was good before soft cap and champion points, when 3% reduce cost actually was an attractive stat hehe :)
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  • Destruent
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    Destruent wrote: »
    when at any point, did zos give the impression even in character creation, that breton is a damage dealer?

    When at any point, did ZOS give the impression even in character creation, that bretons are useless? :wink:

    They was good before soft cap and champion points, when 3% reduce cost actually was an attractive stat hehe :)

    That's true :smiley:
    But now, they don't offer anything over an altmer. :disappointed:
    I don't mind if they increase their sustain, give them more dmg or anything usefull as long as they give us a reason to play breton by choice. And not only bc we have them or they look good or whatever :/
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  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    No. I could live with them getting better raw magic damage, but honestly Bretons are best known for being the 'resilient mage' race. Elves are generally 'fragile' and humans are generally 'tough'. Bretons are the elf-mer mix so it stands to reason they've got the tough magic, and that's just the way their theme is. To take that away would gut their theme altogether. I personally like my 4k magic resist on my Breton, and I'm of the view it is appropriate. I do think the cost reduction could be higher for them, or they could also get a little magic regeneration, or possibly a small chance to absorb magic.
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    Funny because in the last ESO Live, Eric Wrobel talked about how Bretons were top Magicka choice because the 3% cost reduction was "HUGE". So I think people have a very long way to go if you expect any changes to Breton while Eric is making the decisions.
    Edited by ADarklore on July 13, 2016 2:35AM
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  • Minalan
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    Funny because in the last ESO Live, Eric Wrobel talked about how Bretons were top Magicka choice because the 3% cost reduction was "HUGE". So I think people have a very long way to go if you expect any changes to Breton while Eric is making the decisions.

    This is the same guy who said that he wanted 'Dark Exchange' to feel 'awesome' if you manage to pull one off.

    For the love of all MMO, please can that useless guy.
  • Lord_Eomer
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    Funny because in the last ESO Live, Eric Wrobel talked about how Bretons were top Magicka choice because the 3% cost reduction was "HUGE". So I think people have a very long way to go if you expect any changes to Breton while Eric is making the decisions.

    Well 3% reduction is a plain jolk over light armor offers 2% per peiece, Champion System offers upto 12%, Seducer set to offers 8%..

    Developers should take notes seriously instead examining themselves, concluding their own and ignoring player concerns.

    Spell Cost reduction and Spell resistance are not unique bonus and can be acquired in a lot of ways.

    I have like 4 bretons and if no change happened for sure I will switch to Altemrs instead of losing DPS..

    Developers should release statistics I.e. Total Bretons, Altemrs, Dunmer etc.. I am sure only bretons are good by looks in this game.

    People like me created bretons while started this game and now gonna revert this mistake by changing race?
    Edited by Lord_Eomer on July 13, 2016 4:39AM
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