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ZOS SHOULD BAN PEOPLE WHO USE NATION AS THEIR NAME
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Niastissa✭✭✭brandishsteel wrote: »ZOS SHOULD BAN PEOPLE WHO USE NATION AS THEIR NAME
I am not kidding
not many video games allow these name exist
if I make a character called "American" , and I do some crap in the game , people will say : "American is crap" when they talking about me
so what will the real American feel about ? Does every American in the game know what u actually talking about ?
ZOS should ban these people for using A NATION as their name , OR at least force them change to another name ( which is a better choice)
AND zos should not allow anyone who use a Country name as their character name when creating new character
this is potentially ASSAULT A NATION/COUNTRY by using these names in the game
Edited to remove profanity
SJW thinks it perfectly fine to go straight to banning a person. Whats next banning someone for using a word like "you" or a color as a name?
Edited by Niastissa on July 11, 2016 6:35PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭CapnPhoton wrote: »First of all, America is the continent. Also, you said nothing about continents, so America is still greenlit.
Btw, I remember in Dungeons Dragons Online, even the name of brazilian politics were banned lol xD, I wonder where did they get tha from.
FYI...
North America is a continent, as is South America both consisting of multiple countries. America is another word used for 'United States'. It is one country, not a continent.
Maybe inside the USA - but in the rest of the world America refers to both continents - we do not even use a plural to address both. And to say, that someone from South America would not be an american is just ignorant.3 -
DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭Molag_Crow wrote: »Molag_Crow wrote: »
I know that may not be your case but when you post things like this you ended up sounding like a person that complains that can't be racist, homophobic, machist anymore.
Btw political correctness is a good thing because it helps to defend minorities against bullying and other harrassments.
A good thing? In your opinion. Political correctness silences voices (usually the intelligent) because people get easily offended way too often these days. Can't say much else about that on these forums.
Yes, it does silence voices. It silences voices of the bullies and intolerant blatants that spread hate and intolerance everywhere. When you state that "because people get easily offended way too often these days" you are blamming the victim that feels offended , instead of the offender that is saying something that may offend a person or a group.
Yes. Yes we are. That is real life. You are not going to like what everybody says all the time. Get over it. At some point, banning anything that offends anyone is going to lead to utter silence, because, everything offends someone. Everything.
Where does it stop?
It's a similar argument to censorship? Where does it end? Obviously those things that are criminally liable should be censored, but, IMO nothing else.
We in the US live in a society where we have the freedom of speech and to say whatever we wish as long as it is not criminally liable. If we do say or write something that is offensive to a party then they always have the option to sue for liable and/or slander and let the courts sort it out.
Telling people that they cannot say something because it hurts your feelings is tantamount to telling people how to think and that is wrong.
Frankly, I am offended that the OP is so thin skinned that they cannot handle any sort of insult to "America", intentional or not.
Whatever. There was a time when I was called fat and a F******, because of who I was. I am now called old, irrelevant, and many various forms of racial slurs used about white people because of my appearance. I have been told that, because I am Norwegian, I must be violent and unintelligent. There are so many examples. You have to get over it. Life isn't always going to agree with you and you are going to hear, read and have people do things that hurt or feelings or offend you in some way.
We are all individuals with our own individual faults, strengths and foibles. We cannot expect everyone else to cater to our particular point of view or save our feelings. It is unrealistic.Edited by DenMoria on July 11, 2016 6:47PM6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭gamerguy757 wrote: »It's threads like this that make me get on Pokémon GO and walk around
And this is what I would do!
...If it was out in my country
Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.0 -
Niastissa✭✭✭CapnPhoton wrote: »First of all, America is the continent. Also, you said nothing about continents, so America is still greenlit.
Btw, I remember in Dungeons Dragons Online, even the name of brazilian politics were banned lol xD, I wonder where did they get tha from.
FYI...
North America is a continent, as is South America both consisting of multiple countries. America is another word used for 'United States'. It is one country, not a continent.
Maybe inside the USA - but in the rest of the world America refers to both continents - we do not even use a plural to address both. And to say, that someone from South America would not be an american is just ignorant.
Over here it is ignorant to call Mexicans or Canadians by the name Americans. These are three separate populations members to different countries. I understand what you mean because you have the term European to refer to citizens of countries on your continent but it is not like that on this side of the pond because especially on this side of the world there are less countries.
For you being French you are also European. For me I am a Californian living in Virginia. I have lived here the majority of my life to the point where identify more with Virginians more then the state where I was born. We are however all Americans. Mexicans and Canadians for example are not Americans because Americans refers universally to citizens of the coalition of states called the United States. It's easy for foreigners to forget this because externally since we are unified under one voice and one Army composed of citizens of all states we are seen as one country with the leader of the Federal Government being our primary representative. Maybe if you think of it in terms of how the European Union is trying to be formed it will be more clear.1 -
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✭✭Going to create a toon called eso. See if the same logic follows.PC Master Race
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Master Angler
Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
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✭✭✭✭✭gamerguy757 wrote: »It's threads like this that make me get on Pokémon GO and walk around
And this is what I would do!
...If it was out in my country
I still play Pokémon Red when I'm afk/browsing the forums
It's why I'm always so cheery and euphoric
"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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✭gamerguy757 wrote: »It's threads like this that make me get on Pokémon GO and walk around
Just don't get robbed lolPC NA
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Niastissa✭✭✭
or while drivingWreckfulAbandon wrote: »gamerguy757 wrote: »It's threads like this that make me get on Pokémon GO and walk around
Just don't get robbed lol
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or while drivingWreckfulAbandon wrote: »gamerguy757 wrote: »It's threads like this that make me get on Pokémon GO and walk around
Just don't get robbed lol
Look out for rivers!PC NA Rayya Blackheart pitiful DPS NB CP160
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Niastissa✭✭✭Rayya_Blackheart wrote: »
or while drivingWreckfulAbandon wrote: »gamerguy757 wrote: »It's threads like this that make me get on Pokémon GO and walk around
Just don't get robbed lol
Look out for rivers!
and other cars, pedestrians, trees, fences and worst of all police cars.
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Rayya_Blackheart✭✭✭Rayya_Blackheart wrote: »
or while drivingWreckfulAbandon wrote: »gamerguy757 wrote: »It's threads like this that make me get on Pokémon GO and walk around
Just don't get robbed lol
Look out for rivers!
and other cars, pedestrians, trees, fences and worst of all police cars.
And no, that Mew Two is -not- inside Area 51... or military bases.PC NA Rayya Blackheart pitiful DPS NB CP160
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DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭CapnPhoton wrote: »First of all, America is the continent. Also, you said nothing about continents, so America is still greenlit.
Btw, I remember in Dungeons Dragons Online, even the name of brazilian politics were banned lol xD, I wonder where did they get tha from.
FYI...
North America is a continent, as is South America both consisting of multiple countries. America is another word used for 'United States'. It is one country, not a continent.
Maybe inside the USA - but in the rest of the world America refers to both continents - we do not even use a plural to address both. And to say, that someone from South America would not be an american is just ignorant.
Over here it is ignorant to call Mexicans or Canadians by the name Americans. These are three separate populations members to different countries. I understand what you mean because you have the term European to refer to citizens of countries on your continent but it is not like that on this side of the pond because especially on this side of the world there are less countries.
For you being French you are also European. For me I am a Californian living in Virginia. I have lived here the majority of my life to the point where identify more with Virginians more then the state where I was born. We are however all Americans. Mexicans and Canadians for example are not Americans because Americans refers universally to citizens of the coalition of states called the United States. It's easy for foreigners to forget this because externally since we are unified under one voice and one Army composed of citizens of all states we are seen as one country with the leader of the Federal Government being our primary representative. Maybe if you think of it in terms of how the European Union is trying to be formed it will be more clear.
I have lived and was born in the US for most of my life (as well as all over the world) and I have never been ignorant enough to refer to myself as an "American". I am from the United States. Just as a European is from the continent of Europe, or an Asian is from the continent of Asia or an African is from the continent of Africa, etc...
It is the ultimate in hubris, arrogance and ignorance to refer to those who live in the United States as Americans. We are North Americans, as are Mexicans or Canadians as we live on the North American continent. Those from Brazil or Argentina or Chile (or any of so many other countries) on the South American continent are South American. And on and on and on.
The rest of the planet looks at people from the United States askance when we refer to ourselves as "American". We are not "American". We are US Citizens. That not only marginalizes, but is vaguely insulting to the other peoples that live on our continent.4 -
Niastissa✭✭✭CapnPhoton wrote: »First of all, America is the continent. Also, you said nothing about continents, so America is still greenlit.
Btw, I remember in Dungeons Dragons Online, even the name of brazilian politics were banned lol xD, I wonder where did they get tha from.
FYI...
North America is a continent, as is South America both consisting of multiple countries. America is another word used for 'United States'. It is one country, not a continent.
Maybe inside the USA - but in the rest of the world America refers to both continents - we do not even use a plural to address both. And to say, that someone from South America would not be an american is just ignorant.
Over here it is ignorant to call Mexicans or Canadians by the name Americans. These are three separate populations members to different countries. I understand what you mean because you have the term European to refer to citizens of countries on your continent but it is not like that on this side of the pond because especially on this side of the world there are less countries.
For you being French you are also European. For me I am a Californian living in Virginia. I have lived here the majority of my life to the point where identify more with Virginians more then the state where I was born. We are however all Americans. Mexicans and Canadians for example are not Americans because Americans refers universally to citizens of the coalition of states called the United States. It's easy for foreigners to forget this because externally since we are unified under one voice and one Army composed of citizens of all states we are seen as one country with the leader of the Federal Government being our primary representative. Maybe if you think of it in terms of how the European Union is trying to be formed it will be more clear.
I have lived and was born in the US for most of my life (as well as all over the world) and I have never been ignorant enough to refer to myself as an "American". I am from the United States. Just as a European is from the continent of Europe, or an Asian is from the continent of Asia or an African is from the continent of Africa, etc...
It is the ultimate in hubris, arrogance and ignorance to refer to those who live in the United States as Americans. We are North Americans, as are Mexicans or Canadians as we live on the North American continent. Those from Brazil or Argentina or Chile (or any of so many other countries) on the South American continent are South American. And on and on and on.
The rest of the planet looks at people from the United States askance when we refer to ourselves as "American". We are not "American". We are US Citizens. That not only marginalizes, but is vaguely insulting to the other peoples that live on our continent.
Nope. Americans are United States citizens. Canadians are citizens of Canada. Mexicans are citizens of Mexico.
It is improper to call the country America but it is not improper to call the citizens Americans. It isn't arrogance. It is simply a matter of that is the tag the country has picked for itself as a whole.
The rest of the planets outlook is irrelevant. The rest of the planet has no say in the governing of the United States government. Just as I will not dictate what any other country is called or what the countries citizens refer to themselves.2 -
DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭CapnPhoton wrote: »First of all, America is the continent. Also, you said nothing about continents, so America is still greenlit.
Btw, I remember in Dungeons Dragons Online, even the name of brazilian politics were banned lol xD, I wonder where did they get tha from.
FYI...
North America is a continent, as is South America both consisting of multiple countries. America is another word used for 'United States'. It is one country, not a continent.
Maybe inside the USA - but in the rest of the world America refers to both continents - we do not even use a plural to address both. And to say, that someone from South America would not be an american is just ignorant.
Over here it is ignorant to call Mexicans or Canadians by the name Americans. These are three separate populations members to different countries. I understand what you mean because you have the term European to refer to citizens of countries on your continent but it is not like that on this side of the pond because especially on this side of the world there are less countries.
For you being French you are also European. For me I am a Californian living in Virginia. I have lived here the majority of my life to the point where identify more with Virginians more then the state where I was born. We are however all Americans. Mexicans and Canadians for example are not Americans because Americans refers universally to citizens of the coalition of states called the United States. It's easy for foreigners to forget this because externally since we are unified under one voice and one Army composed of citizens of all states we are seen as one country with the leader of the Federal Government being our primary representative. Maybe if you think of it in terms of how the European Union is trying to be formed it will be more clear.
I have lived and was born in the US for most of my life (as well as all over the world) and I have never been ignorant enough to refer to myself as an "American". I am from the United States. Just as a European is from the continent of Europe, or an Asian is from the continent of Asia or an African is from the continent of Africa, etc...
It is the ultimate in hubris, arrogance and ignorance to refer to those who live in the United States as Americans. We are North Americans, as are Mexicans or Canadians as we live on the North American continent. Those from Brazil or Argentina or Chile (or any of so many other countries) on the South American continent are South American. And on and on and on.
The rest of the planet looks at people from the United States askance when we refer to ourselves as "American". We are not "American". We are US Citizens. That not only marginalizes, but is vaguely insulting to the other peoples that live on our continent.
Nope. Americans are United States citizens. Canadians are citizens of Canada. Mexicans are citizens of Mexico.
It is improper to call the country America but it is not improper to call the citizens Americans. It isn't arrogance. It is simply a matter of that is the tag the country has picked for itself as a whole.
The rest of the planets outlook is irrelevant. The rest of the planet has no say in the governing of the United States government. Just as I will not dictate what any other country is called or what the countries citizens refer to themselves.
1) It is the ultimate in hubris
2) Agree an disagree. The country is not "America" and it's citizens are not "Americans". It is arrogance and ignorance to think so.
3) "The rest of the plant's outlook is irrelevant"? Now that is perhaps the most arrogant thing I have ever heard. The United States is a relatively small country population-wise (around 450 million), not big at all. If you truly believe that the United States is the end all and be all of importance, I pity your future. This is a planet with 7 billion (give or take) people on it, of which the US is only 6% of the population. This is exactly the attitude that makes much of the civilized world despise the US in so many ways.
Honestly, you really need to travel the world and see how your attitude stands. You will be sadly disappointed.3 -
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Niastissa✭✭✭CapnPhoton wrote: »First of all, America is the continent. Also, you said nothing about continents, so America is still greenlit.
Btw, I remember in Dungeons Dragons Online, even the name of brazilian politics were banned lol xD, I wonder where did they get tha from.
FYI...
North America is a continent, as is South America both consisting of multiple countries. America is another word used for 'United States'. It is one country, not a continent.
Maybe inside the USA - but in the rest of the world America refers to both continents - we do not even use a plural to address both. And to say, that someone from South America would not be an american is just ignorant.
Over here it is ignorant to call Mexicans or Canadians by the name Americans. These are three separate populations members to different countries. I understand what you mean because you have the term European to refer to citizens of countries on your continent but it is not like that on this side of the pond because especially on this side of the world there are less countries.
For you being French you are also European. For me I am a Californian living in Virginia. I have lived here the majority of my life to the point where identify more with Virginians more then the state where I was born. We are however all Americans. Mexicans and Canadians for example are not Americans because Americans refers universally to citizens of the coalition of states called the United States. It's easy for foreigners to forget this because externally since we are unified under one voice and one Army composed of citizens of all states we are seen as one country with the leader of the Federal Government being our primary representative. Maybe if you think of it in terms of how the European Union is trying to be formed it will be more clear.
I have lived and was born in the US for most of my life (as well as all over the world) and I have never been ignorant enough to refer to myself as an "American". I am from the United States. Just as a European is from the continent of Europe, or an Asian is from the continent of Asia or an African is from the continent of Africa, etc...
It is the ultimate in hubris, arrogance and ignorance to refer to those who live in the United States as Americans. We are North Americans, as are Mexicans or Canadians as we live on the North American continent. Those from Brazil or Argentina or Chile (or any of so many other countries) on the South American continent are South American. And on and on and on.
The rest of the planet looks at people from the United States askance when we refer to ourselves as "American". We are not "American". We are US Citizens. That not only marginalizes, but is vaguely insulting to the other peoples that live on our continent.
Nope. Americans are United States citizens. Canadians are citizens of Canada. Mexicans are citizens of Mexico.
It is improper to call the country America but it is not improper to call the citizens Americans. It isn't arrogance. It is simply a matter of that is the tag the country has picked for itself as a whole.
The rest of the planets outlook is irrelevant. The rest of the planet has no say in the governing of the United States government. Just as I will not dictate what any other country is called or what the countries citizens refer to themselves.
1) It is the ultimate in hubris
2) Agree an disagree. The country is not "America" and it's citizens are not "Americans". It is arrogance and ignorance to think so.
3) "The rest of the plant's outlook is irrelevant"? Now that is perhaps the most arrogant thing I have ever heard. The United States is a relatively small country population-wise (around 450 million), not big at all. If you truly believe that the United States is the end all and be all of importance, I pity your future. This is a planet with 7 billion (give or take) people on it, of which the US is only 6% of the population. This is exactly the attitude that makes much of the civilized world despise the US in so many ways.
Honestly, you really need to travel the world and see how your attitude stands. You will be sadly disappointed.
You are confusing the difference between continents and countries.
Here is a link that explains it clearer on in someone else's voice if you don't want to listen to me.
http://www.answers.com/Q/Why_US_citizens_called_themselves_Americans_instead_of_only_North_Americans
Also don't presume to think I don't travel. I have been in England, Ireland, France, Germany, Italy, Spain and Australia for a mix of business and pleasure.
The difference is while I will respect other people's cultures. No one will dictate to me what my culture is or make me in any way feel bad or less because of it.
The physical size or population size is irrelevant to the sovereignty of a nation. You can choose to twist my words around but it is clear that I simply mean that our country will rule itself and the other countries will rule themselves.
It's the same thing when people in other countries like France and Germany presume to tell us who we should be voting for in our elections. Keep your nose out of our business.Edited by Niastissa on July 11, 2016 8:38PM1 -
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✭✭Back in the days of Planetside, I used to have a character named "The Entire Country of Chile". It wasn't meant to be disparaging, just a name with an amusing concept. At no point did anyone (to my knowledge) think I was knocking Chile. I ended up meeting a lot of really amusing Chileans while playing the game.
If you use the name in a disparaging or crude manner, then yes, I would agree that the name should be removed. But the person banned? No. That's ridiculous.0 -
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✭CapnPhoton wrote: »First of all, America is the continent. Also, you said nothing about continents, so America is still greenlit.
Btw, I remember in Dungeons Dragons Online, even the name of brazilian politics were banned lol xD, I wonder where did they get tha from.
FYI...
North America is a continent, as is South America both consisting of multiple countries. America is another word used for 'United States'. It is one country, not a continent.
Maybe inside the USA - but in the rest of the world America refers to both continents - we do not even use a plural to address both. And to say, that someone from South America would not be an american is just ignorant.
Over here it is ignorant to call Mexicans or Canadians by the name Americans. These are three separate populations members to different countries. I understand what you mean because you have the term European to refer to citizens of countries on your continent but it is not like that on this side of the pond because especially on this side of the world there are less countries.
For you being French you are also European. For me I am a Californian living in Virginia. I have lived here the majority of my life to the point where identify more with Virginians more then the state where I was born. We are however all Americans. Mexicans and Canadians for example are not Americans because Americans refers universally to citizens of the coalition of states called the United States. It's easy for foreigners to forget this because externally since we are unified under one voice and one Army composed of citizens of all states we are seen as one country with the leader of the Federal Government being our primary representative. Maybe if you think of it in terms of how the European Union is trying to be formed it will be more clear.
I have lived and was born in the US for most of my life (as well as all over the world) and I have never been ignorant enough to refer to myself as an "American". I am from the United States. Just as a European is from the continent of Europe, or an Asian is from the continent of Asia or an African is from the continent of Africa, etc...
It is the ultimate in hubris, arrogance and ignorance to refer to those who live in the United States as Americans. We are North Americans, as are Mexicans or Canadians as we live on the North American continent. Those from Brazil or Argentina or Chile (or any of so many other countries) on the South American continent are South American. And on and on and on.
The rest of the planet looks at people from the United States askance when we refer to ourselves as "American". We are not "American". We are US Citizens. That not only marginalizes, but is vaguely insulting to the other peoples that live on our continent.
Nope. Americans are United States citizens. Canadians are citizens of Canada. Mexicans are citizens of Mexico.
It is improper to call the country America but it is not improper to call the citizens Americans. It isn't arrogance. It is simply a matter of that is the tag the country has picked for itself as a whole.
The rest of the planets outlook is irrelevant. The rest of the planet has no say in the governing of the United States government. Just as I will not dictate what any other country is called or what the countries citizens refer to themselves.
1) It is the ultimate in hubris
2) Agree an disagree. The country is not "America" and it's citizens are not "Americans". It is arrogance and ignorance to think so.
3) "The rest of the plant's outlook is irrelevant"? Now that is perhaps the most arrogant thing I have ever heard. The United States is a relatively small country population-wise (around 450 million), not big at all. If you truly believe that the United States is the end all and be all of importance, I pity your future. This is a planet with 7 billion (give or take) people on it, of which the US is only 6% of the population. This is exactly the attitude that makes much of the civilized world despise the US in so many ways.
Honestly, you really need to travel the world and see how your attitude stands. You will be sadly disappointed.
You are confusing the difference between continents and countries.
Here is a link that explains it clearer on in someone else's voice if you don't want to listen to me.
http://www.answers.com/Q/Why_US_citizens_called_themselves_Americans_instead_of_only_North_Americans
Also don't presume to think I don't travel. I have been in England, Ireland, France, Germany, Italy, Spain and Australia for a mix of business and pleasure.
The difference is while I will respect other people's cultures. No one will dictate to me what my culture is or make me in any way feel bad or less because of it.
I am not confusing the difference between countries and continents. The US exists on the North American Continent as do Canada and Mexico. Brazil, Argentina, Chile (and many others) exist on the South American Continent. France, Germany, Italy and Spain exist on the European Continent. Australia exists on the continent of Australia and is the only country that also bears the name of the continent (Antarctica is not a country, only a continent).
There is no confusion. The United States of America is not America. It is the United States of America. The Americas are the North American and South American continents (and there are many countries included there - Central America is not a continent and is generally considered to be part of the North American continent although, sometimes it is split between North and South through the use of the Panama canal.
If you wish to refer to yourself as an American, fine, that is your right. If the rest of the planet considers you a fool for doing so, that is their right.
The only part I will not accept is that you directly refer to the rest of the planet as "irrelevant". That I take exception too. Obviously you do not respect other people's cultures as you directly dismiss their opinions and beliefs. We are a tiny fraction of the world's population and have no right to dismiss them.
I am, as much of, if not more so, a proud citizen of the United States and my families go back to a time period long before there even was a United States of America on the North American continent. I, however, accept that we do not have 1 "culture" in this country. We are a conglomeration of many cultures in the United States. The "culture" in Louisiana has very little to do with the "culture" in New York, or Portland Oregon or even in Alabama. We are a proud nation that is a "melting pot". We have Muslims, and Christians, and Jews, and Southerners and Mid-Westerners and West Coast and East Coast and Black and White and Native American and Latino and Cuban and so much, much, much more.
There is a massive difference between pride and hubris.0 -
Niastissa✭✭✭CapnPhoton wrote: »First of all, America is the continent. Also, you said nothing about continents, so America is still greenlit.
Btw, I remember in Dungeons Dragons Online, even the name of brazilian politics were banned lol xD, I wonder where did they get tha from.
FYI...
North America is a continent, as is South America both consisting of multiple countries. America is another word used for 'United States'. It is one country, not a continent.
Maybe inside the USA - but in the rest of the world America refers to both continents - we do not even use a plural to address both. And to say, that someone from South America would not be an american is just ignorant.
Over here it is ignorant to call Mexicans or Canadians by the name Americans. These are three separate populations members to different countries. I understand what you mean because you have the term European to refer to citizens of countries on your continent but it is not like that on this side of the pond because especially on this side of the world there are less countries.
For you being French you are also European. For me I am a Californian living in Virginia. I have lived here the majority of my life to the point where identify more with Virginians more then the state where I was born. We are however all Americans. Mexicans and Canadians for example are not Americans because Americans refers universally to citizens of the coalition of states called the United States. It's easy for foreigners to forget this because externally since we are unified under one voice and one Army composed of citizens of all states we are seen as one country with the leader of the Federal Government being our primary representative. Maybe if you think of it in terms of how the European Union is trying to be formed it will be more clear.
I have lived and was born in the US for most of my life (as well as all over the world) and I have never been ignorant enough to refer to myself as an "American". I am from the United States. Just as a European is from the continent of Europe, or an Asian is from the continent of Asia or an African is from the continent of Africa, etc...
It is the ultimate in hubris, arrogance and ignorance to refer to those who live in the United States as Americans. We are North Americans, as are Mexicans or Canadians as we live on the North American continent. Those from Brazil or Argentina or Chile (or any of so many other countries) on the South American continent are South American. And on and on and on.
The rest of the planet looks at people from the United States askance when we refer to ourselves as "American". We are not "American". We are US Citizens. That not only marginalizes, but is vaguely insulting to the other peoples that live on our continent.
Nope. Americans are United States citizens. Canadians are citizens of Canada. Mexicans are citizens of Mexico.
It is improper to call the country America but it is not improper to call the citizens Americans. It isn't arrogance. It is simply a matter of that is the tag the country has picked for itself as a whole.
The rest of the planets outlook is irrelevant. The rest of the planet has no say in the governing of the United States government. Just as I will not dictate what any other country is called or what the countries citizens refer to themselves.
1) It is the ultimate in hubris
2) Agree an disagree. The country is not "America" and it's citizens are not "Americans". It is arrogance and ignorance to think so.
3) "The rest of the plant's outlook is irrelevant"? Now that is perhaps the most arrogant thing I have ever heard. The United States is a relatively small country population-wise (around 450 million), not big at all. If you truly believe that the United States is the end all and be all of importance, I pity your future. This is a planet with 7 billion (give or take) people on it, of which the US is only 6% of the population. This is exactly the attitude that makes much of the civilized world despise the US in so many ways.
Honestly, you really need to travel the world and see how your attitude stands. You will be sadly disappointed.
You are confusing the difference between continents and countries.
Here is a link that explains it clearer on in someone else's voice if you don't want to listen to me.
http://www.answers.com/Q/Why_US_citizens_called_themselves_Americans_instead_of_only_North_Americans
Also don't presume to think I don't travel. I have been in England, Ireland, France, Germany, Italy, Spain and Australia for a mix of business and pleasure.
The difference is while I will respect other people's cultures. No one will dictate to me what my culture is or make me in any way feel bad or less because of it.
I am not confusing the difference between countries and continents. The US exists on the North American Continent as do Canada and Mexico. Brazil, Argentina, Chile (and many others) exist on the South American Continent. France, Germany, Italy and Spain exist on the European Continent. Australia exists on the continent of Australia and is the only country that also bears the name of the continent (Antarctica is not a country, only a continent).
There is no confusion. The United States of America is not America. It is the United States of America. The Americas are the North American and South American continents (and there are many countries included there - Central America is not a continent and is generally considered to be part of the North American continent although, sometimes it is split between North and South through the use of the Panama canal.
If you wish to refer to yourself as an American, fine, that is your right. If the rest of the planet considers you a fool for doing so, that is their right.
The only part I will not accept is that you directly refer to the rest of the planet as "irrelevant". That I take exception too. Obviously you do not respect other people's cultures as you directly dismiss their opinions and beliefs. We are a tiny fraction of the world's population and have no right to dismiss them.
I am, as much of, if not more so, a proud citizen of the United States and my families go back to a time period long before there even was a United States of America on the North American continent. I, however, accept that we do not have 1 "culture" in this country. We are a conglomeration of many cultures in the United States. The "culture" in Louisiana has very little to do with the "culture" in New York, or Portland Oregon or even in Alabama. We are a proud nation that is a "melting pot". We have Muslims, and Christians, and Jews, and Southerners and Mid-Westerners and West Coast and East Coast and Black and White and Native American and Latino and Cuban and so much, much, much more.
There is a massive difference between pride and hubris.
Go back and read my posts before you presume to lecture me. Where did I say that the country is America? I'm done talking to you until you stop twisting around my posts.
In the matters of state for the United States the rest of the world is irrelevant. We can make deals and have treaties but at the end of the day it is about looking out for number one just as each other country is doing for themselves. We have a responsibility to our people not the world.
I don't tell the other counties who to elect as leader. I don't put in a vote for if the British should leave the European Union or if the rest should stay. I'm not neutral I simply have no voice in their governments because I am not one of them. Just as all of them have no voice or say in the way the United States is run because they are not one of us. It is not a slant it is merely a fact. If you are offended that when I say as you poke your nose in business that doesn't pertain to you then I say simply, tough.Edited by Niastissa on July 11, 2016 8:49PM2 -
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