Still no fixes for sorcs

TheHsN · July 2016

it is SORC for God Sick

- it is based on magic and that leads to it MAGICKA...
- so it should be the best of the MAGICKA CLASS...

BUT,

-as Skills , Magicka sustains , Magicka Pool and now as DPS Based on MAGIC it is the worst MAGICKA CLASS!!!
i cant stand the idea and THE FACT that STAMSORC is better than the ACTUAL MAGICKA BASED SORC... that is SAD... BUT TRUE ALSO

- And the other thing is that it is like bound to DestroStaff like it has no magic power:)...thats SAD ALSO even tho it can reach it is highest spell damage with Dual SWORDS that is another SAD..:)...

- LATELY no one is prefers to play or play togeter with MAGICKA SORC not in Dungeons not in Trials everybodys Says that it is DPS and Time LOST for a higher SCORES to achive...They are right tho Sorcs have No DPS no Support as SORCERER... even they need others to support it to achive it is avarage DPS:)...

- One other thing is that HOW IS THE LORE I CANT UNDERSTAND!!! A Tank and Heal Classes are making MORE DPS than the ACTUAL DPS Classes!!!

so pls noone says that magicka sorc is awesome NO!!! it is liker a kid who need supports everywhere in game to be able to make somethings...

Thank you...

ParaNostram · July 2016

To everyone complaining about Sorcs being weak, allow me to offer unto you how I made my sorc so strong that, honestly, I get bored in PvP.

Gear - Maw of the Inferno, 5 piece HEAVY Julianos, with a Frost staff and a resto Staff.

Stats - 100% magicka, nothing else.

CP allocation - Warrior - 50/50 reduce physical/reduce magical damage.
Thief - Magicka regen, reduce spell cost.
Mage - 100% elemental, then drop the remainder in buffing your heals. This coupled with the heavy armor and the damage reduction will leave you in a state of just not dying if you use your pet heals right.

Bar 1 - Crystal Frag, Daedric Prey, Destructive Reach, Volatile Familiar (I want with this for some extra damage and CC) and Healer Winged Twilight with the Storm Atronach.
Bar 2 - Surge, Streak, Daedric Minefield, and the pets again. For your ult, anything's good but I would recommend something for survival or utility, such as Negate or Bats. It is fun to go Overload spamming still though.

Caza99 · July 2016

Zaryc wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

I don't see any magicka Sorcerers anywhere. The only Sorcs are stam Sorcs (which are good now) and some of these Magicka Sorcs that you can just one shot because hardened ward is underpowered as hell and the only way for a Sorc to survive is shield stacking.

Magicka Sorcerer has no identity and no strenghts over other classes. It's a shame that nothing was changed or fixed.

I remember telling people a while ago that Stam Sorcs are super good now right before the new patch was coming out; and a bunch of Bad Sorcs telling me no they are super *** and I had no idea what i'm talking about.

Low and behold....now everyone is saying Magicka Sorcs are *** and Stam Sorcs are good (By the way...both are good)

Stam Sorcs are, Mag Sorcs not at all went all the way from best Magicka class to the worst in just 1 year.

Well from a pvp perspective, Worst Magicka Class title still belongs to magicka DK. Magicka sorcs are still good guys jeez

Magicka DKs are only that bad in solo play, in duels, small groups and zergs they are viable and pretty good imo (well, which class isn't viable in zergs...). The only usefull thing a magicka sorc brings for groupplay is negate tho. And stam sorcs can also use negate and they have higher dmg output and better sustain. So even then stam sorc > magicka sorc this patch.

When you are talking from a purely solo perspective, then you're right.

Magdks are good small group and zerg, I give you that. And yes, Stam sorc can use negate but in an organised group you wouldn't have a Stam sorcs immense damage potential wasted on negate duty, so in that way magsorc provides more support in a group situation.
As for solo and small group magsorc, they are most definitely not the 'worst' magicka class. Their mobility and burst damage capabilites make them great, admittedly not as good as other classes as they lack the damage shields they once had but if you play it to its strengths you can do just fine. It's not dead, it's just weaker and significantly so compared to previous patches. You don't see many mag sorcs around now because when the PTS patch notes came out with that damage shield nerf, all the sorc rerolls quit and went to something more OP.

ToRelax · July 2016

ParaNostram wrote: »

To everyone complaining about Sorcs being weak, allow me to offer unto you how I made my sorc so strong that, honestly, I get bored in PvP.

Gear - Maw of the Inferno, 5 piece HEAVY Julianos, with a Frost staff and a resto Staff.

Stats - 100% magicka, nothing else.

CP allocation - Warrior - 50/50 reduce physical/reduce magical damage.
Thief - Magicka regen, reduce spell cost.
Mage - 100% elemental, then drop the remainder in buffing your heals. This coupled with the heavy armor and the damage reduction will leave you in a state of just not dying if you use your pet heals right.

Bar 1 - Crystal Frag, Daedric Prey, Destructive Reach, Volatile Familiar (I want with this for some extra damage and CC) and Healer Winged Twilight with the Storm Atronach.
Bar 2 - Surge, Streak, Daedric Minefield, and the pets again. For your ult, anything's good but I would recommend something for survival or utility, such as Negate or Bats. It is fun to go Overload spamming still though.

You have neither a ward nor heal once i kill your twilight... whereas you couldn't even scratch me with destructive reach, much less kill without the light armor penetration.

tinythinker · July 2016

TheHsN wrote: »

they never listen feedbacks even tho they make thread about it:(:(:(

Naw, they do.

tinythinker · July 2016

TheHsN wrote: »

no one wants them in trials or dungeon that they are dps lose or time lose...

Sounds like Templars a couple of years ago.

Birdovic wrote: »

A class' Balance Should not be depending on 1-2 Sets.

Sounds like Templars a couple of years ago ("Soulshine").

Dracane · July 2016

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

I don't see any magicka Sorcerers anywhere. The only Sorcs are stam Sorcs (which are good now) and some of these Magicka Sorcs that you can just one shot because hardened ward is underpowered as hell and the only way for a Sorc to survive is shield stacking.

Magicka Sorcerer has no identity and no strenghts over other classes. It's a shame that nothing was changed or fixed.

So have you played a stam sorc ? They are good now, are they ? Well... I guess. They are still one of the worst stamina classes but I guess if you say they are good enough then you're right. They've got mobility and good sustain. Damage dealing on the other hand is pretty limited. You see they've got no Poisonous Claw/Noxious Breath/Dragon Leap, they got no Biting Jabs/Javelin, they've got no Surprise Attack/Ambush/Incapacitating Strike/Relentless Focus/all the other stamina morphs for nightblades. So yeah tell me that stam sorc is good enough and doesn't need serious improvements.

Magicka sorcs have always lacked utility. Thats the only problem with the class. They can do crazy damage : my C-Frags when fully buffed can hit for around 35k on a crit with self buffs only, Meteor can hit for over 50k with a War Horn and TBS (aka in Trials). In PvP Frags would reach around 15k on the lucky hits and the average would still be around 12k. I'm not even at cappped CP.

Why would you want to get untied from a Destro Staff ? Are you gonna swing those swords when Dual Wielding or Spin-To-Win ? Obviously no, so why do you hate your inferno staff that much ? Crushing Shock/Force Pulse are good skills and if people won't use it then what's the point of that skill's existance ?

The Execute does start functioning a bit late though, 20% health is too low to be really useful. I like the explosion though because you can set up very nice bursts with it.

Surge heals are different, but still good. In PvE when you place your Liquid Lightning and your Elemental Blockade you will not have too much trouble staying at full health. In PvP your frags won't heal you to full health anymore, which does kinda suck but hey we gotta adapt right ?

Shields. Yeah 6 sec is very annoying. But then I got used to it. You can still shield stack if you absolutely need to. You can still take a 20k hit from Voriak Solkyn's skull attack and be at full health. Now tell me how often have your shields lasted in PvP. You used to be able to tank out 1 Wrecking Blow and still be untouched. Has that changed ? NO ! Shields are just as strong as they used to be. The duration is a pain but you get used to it.

Stop whining about insignificant stuff and adress real problems in the sorc class, aka toggles, pets, lack of utility. And maybe make a couple of threads for magicka DK's, they need a buff more than us sorcs do.

Don't be so rude.

I am not one of these Sorcs who wants to be untied of destruction staves. To me, a Sorcerer is a staff wielder.
But destruction staff is an underwhelming weapon line. The passives are very weak and the abilities aren't much better. force shock is the weakest spammable ability in the game and even though they are 2 handed weapons, they still have the lowest base damage of all weapons. Range is not an argument here

Dracane · July 2016

ToRelax wrote: »

ParaNostram wrote: »

To everyone complaining about Sorcs being weak, allow me to offer unto you how I made my sorc so strong that, honestly, I get bored in PvP.

Gear - Maw of the Inferno, 5 piece HEAVY Julianos, with a Frost staff and a resto Staff.

Stats - 100% magicka, nothing else.

CP allocation - Warrior - 50/50 reduce physical/reduce magical damage.
Thief - Magicka regen, reduce spell cost.
Mage - 100% elemental, then drop the remainder in buffing your heals. This coupled with the heavy armor and the damage reduction will leave you in a state of just not dying if you use your pet heals right.

Bar 1 - Crystal Frag, Daedric Prey, Destructive Reach, Volatile Familiar (I want with this for some extra damage and CC) and Healer Winged Twilight with the Storm Atronach.
Bar 2 - Surge, Streak, Daedric Minefield, and the pets again. For your ult, anything's good but I would recommend something for survival or utility, such as Negate or Bats. It is fun to go Overload spamming still though.

You have neither a ward nor heal once i kill your twilight... whereas you couldn't even scratch me with destructive reach, much less kill without the light armor penetration.

Honey, because his build is not reality, it's only theorycrafted.
Magicka Sorcerer without shields does not work and maw of the infernal is super bad, no sane person would use this-

Minalan · July 2016

Turelus wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Sorcs are finally balanced. I honestly think them, magica NB and magica Dk are where everything else should be.

Yeah, they're so balanced that noone plays them anymore. Definition of balanced when noone plays the class, right? :P

Confirming I don't see any sorcs at all in the game any more. Those negates in PvP were all coming from the Nightblades.

FYI Stam sorcs are throwing the negates.

Magicka sorc isn't dead, but it does have a couple of quality of life issues that need to be addressed.

* Two seconds added to hardened ward would make it a great class defense instead of 'meh'. Right now you can get a higher shield with nullify Magicka and seven light armor pieces. And cast it from stealth.

* Tweak a few class passives, add more Magicka cost reduction to help combat the dark brotherhood skill cost increases. Add a slight increase to either max Magicka or magicka recovery in another. We have some seriously bad class passives compared to nightblades. Not much, but 2-3% each would make spell damage builds usable again.

* Fix the class heal, make 'Dark Deal' an Instant or a heal over time for Magicka classes. Why? That'll let most of us drop the resto staff for self healing. We can sword and board or dual wield on the backbar. Open up some build diversity.

* FFS. Make force pulse non reflectable please? It's a beam, not a projectile. Not a class change, but a quality of life thing.

Done. That would probably be enough to bring back most of the players that abandoned our class. At least the good ones. After a Malubeth nerf I think many of the Templars will re-roll.

Grao · July 2016

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

When will you make sorcs good again, ZoS? They've been murdered ever since the dark brotherhood came and went on a killing spree against them.

They will rework Magika Sorcerers whenever they make tokens for class changes.

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO · July 2016

Grao wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

When will you make sorcs good again, ZoS? They've been murdered ever since the dark brotherhood came and went on a killing spree against them.

They will rework Magika Sorcerers whenever they make tokens for class changes.

Unfortunately I think so too, the way they're going with the game is exactly the way so many other promising games have gone before them. Starting off with an amazing game and then falling into the hell hole of B2P/F2P that just kills the game when 90% of their efforts shifts to the crown store and everything else suffers for it as long as they get to push out the next shiny reskin of a mount/costume/pet.

Birdovic · July 2016

when 90% of their efforts shifts to the crown sore and everything else suffers

No Idea if that "crown sore" was intended, but hey I laughed

americansteel · July 2016

L2P

your class has rocket mobility, stupid OP DPS, incredible defense which still brings ubalanced gameplay to pvp btw updates need to be split for pvp and pve. the sorc class has its cake and eats it too unlike my templar and DK.

shield duration was reduced so you assume the class is bad, yeah ok dude.

l2p adapt.

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO · July 2016

americansteel wrote: »

L2P

your class has rocket mobility, stupid OP DPS, incredible defense which still brings ubalanced gameplay to pvp btw updates need to be split for pvp and pve. the sorc class has its cake and eats it too unlike my templar and DK.

shield duration was reduced so you assume the class is bad, yeah ok dude.

l2p adapt.

LOL, you've been bitching about your templar and DK forever when they're among the best in the game, DK's are by far the best dps and tanks in the game atm while templars are the best healers, stop whining if you can't do well with that. Sorcs need a buff, it's not their fault if you're a baddie that can't use a gap closer.

Dracane · July 2016

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

L2P

your class has rocket mobility, stupid OP DPS, incredible defense which still brings ubalanced gameplay to pvp btw updates need to be split for pvp and pve. the sorc class has its cake and eats it too unlike my templar and DK.

shield duration was reduced so you assume the class is bad, yeah ok dude.

l2p adapt.

LOL, you've been bitching about your templar and DK forever when they're among the best in the game, DK's are by far the best dps and tanks in the game atm while templars are the best healers, stop whining if you can't do well with that. Sorcs need a buff, it's not their fault if you're a baddie that can't use a gap closer.

True. DKs are the best DPS and Templars are pretty much the dominating race in pvp at the moment.

Baragorath · July 2016

Dracane wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

L2P

your class has rocket mobility, stupid OP DPS, incredible defense which still brings ubalanced gameplay to pvp btw updates need to be split for pvp and pve. the sorc class has its cake and eats it too unlike my templar and DK.

shield duration was reduced so you assume the class is bad, yeah ok dude.

l2p adapt.

LOL, you've been bitching about your templar and DK forever when they're among the best in the game, DK's are by far the best dps and tanks in the game atm while templars are the best healers, stop whining if you can't do well with that. Sorcs need a buff, it's not their fault if you're a baddie that can't use a gap closer.

True. DKs are the best DPS and Templars are pretty much the dominating race in pvp at the moment.

Said someone who is pi**ed off because not dps, tank and healer in one anymore.

Sorc is now most inline class in the game - not 3 in 1 as used to be year ago.

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO · July 2016

Baragorath wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

L2P

your class has rocket mobility, stupid OP DPS, incredible defense which still brings ubalanced gameplay to pvp btw updates need to be split for pvp and pve. the sorc class has its cake and eats it too unlike my templar and DK.

shield duration was reduced so you assume the class is bad, yeah ok dude.

l2p adapt.

LOL, you've been bitching about your templar and DK forever when they're among the best in the game, DK's are by far the best dps and tanks in the game atm while templars are the best healers, stop whining if you can't do well with that. Sorcs need a buff, it's not their fault if you're a baddie that can't use a gap closer.

True. DKs are the best DPS and Templars are pretty much the dominating race in pvp at the moment.

Said someone who is pi**ed off because not dps, tank and healer in one anymore.

Sorc is now most inline class in the game - not 3 in 1 as used to be year ago.

Templars and DK's are all the things you mentioned, even NB's if built correctly. How come it's only a bad thing if sorcs can be but it's ok if all the other classes can? I smell a L2P against sorcs because they're a baddie issue here

Birdovic · July 2016

@americansteel

Cool Signature.

Derra · July 2016

Sorc DPS got improved in pvp imo. It´s just problematic for the class in general when specced magica it does not have strong synergy with either poisons or the new potions.

Major Vitality + Lingering Health potions are the bread and butter of any selfheal build. Combined with the Malubeth and heavy armor changes survivability for any build relying on selfheals skyrocketed with the DB update while sorc received a slight nerf.
Why not give the option of a major warding buff increasing strengh of all dmg shields on self by 30% with a potion

Shields just feel awkward to use as a sorc. Imo conjure ward and both morphs could use a 2s duration increase to make usage not as tedious as it currently is.

Minalan · July 2016

americansteel wrote: »

L2P

your class has rocket mobility, stupid OP DPS, incredible defense which still brings ubalanced gameplay to pvp btw updates need to be split for pvp and pve. the sorc class has its cake and eats it too unlike my templar and DK.

shield duration was reduced so you assume the class is bad, yeah ok dude.

l2p adapt.

We need to L2P? And You can't kill a sorc with a TEMPLAR?

Why do you haunt every sorc thread to cry about your TEMPLAR getting killed by one? One of two things is going on here:

1. You're confusing a Magicka sorc with a Nightblade. Here's a hint. We're not the class with combat cloak, one shot kills, and Incap strike

2. You're so bad at this game you can't take out a sorc with a Templar. Why are you still playing? And we need to L2P? OMG. Hahahahaha.

Grao · July 2016

*@Grao lights a candle for @cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO , apparently banned from the forums for being an unhappy sorcerer*

Rex-Umbra · July 2016

ParaNostram wrote: »

To everyone complaining about Sorcs being weak, allow me to offer unto you how I made my sorc so strong that, honestly, I get bored in PvP.

Gear - Maw of the Inferno, 5 piece HEAVY Julianos, with a Frost staff and a resto Staff.

Stats - 100% magicka, nothing else.

CP allocation - Warrior - 50/50 reduce physical/reduce magical damage.
Thief - Magicka regen, reduce spell cost.
Mage - 100% elemental, then drop the remainder in buffing your heals. This coupled with the heavy armor and the damage reduction will leave you in a state of just not dying if you use your pet heals right.

Bar 1 - Crystal Frag, Daedric Prey, Destructive Reach, Volatile Familiar (I want with this for some extra damage and CC) and Healer Winged Twilight with the Storm Atronach.
Bar 2 - Surge, Streak, Daedric Minefield, and the pets again. For your ult, anything's good but I would recommend something for survival or utility, such as Negate or Bats. It is fun to go Overload spamming still though.

My Sorc build is the same only i use overload for third bar and put shield pn all three bars.

Kammakazi · July 2016

Meanwhile Stamina Sorcs...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIF5eKVgVM8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI2iTLCZKJQ

Hashtag_ · July 2016

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Sorcs are finally balanced. I honestly think them, magica NB and magica Dk are where everything else should be.

Yeah, they're so balanced that noone plays them anymore. Definition of balanced when noone plays the class, right? :P

They're not an easy button anymore. All the bad sorcs went magplar since it's the new easy button class. Sorcs are just as strong, if not stronger this patch. Quit QQ'ing.

Neowit · July 2016

Heavy, Malubeth sporting tanks have come in abundance since DB. There's no bursting through that. Especially when you're up against a DK popping wings. Sorcs need a buff to allow them to survive the current meta.

psychotic13 · July 2016

In PvP sorcs are fine stop whining, and L2P your build.
In PvE I can't comment on that, as I rarely play it.

ParaNostram · July 2016

ToRelax wrote: »

ParaNostram wrote: »

To everyone complaining about Sorcs being weak, allow me to offer unto you how I made my sorc so strong that, honestly, I get bored in PvP.

Gear - Maw of the Inferno, 5 piece HEAVY Julianos, with a Frost staff and a resto Staff.

Stats - 100% magicka, nothing else.

CP allocation - Warrior - 50/50 reduce physical/reduce magical damage.
Thief - Magicka regen, reduce spell cost.
Mage - 100% elemental, then drop the remainder in buffing your heals. This coupled with the heavy armor and the damage reduction will leave you in a state of just not dying if you use your pet heals right.

Bar 1 - Crystal Frag, Daedric Prey, Destructive Reach, Volatile Familiar (I want with this for some extra damage and CC) and Healer Winged Twilight with the Storm Atronach.
Bar 2 - Surge, Streak, Daedric Minefield, and the pets again. For your ult, anything's good but I would recommend something for survival or utility, such as Negate or Bats. It is fun to go Overload spamming still though.

You have neither a ward nor heal once i kill your twilight... whereas you couldn't even scratch me with destructive reach, much less kill without the light armor penetration.

Wards are pretty well worthless mana dumps anymore. Destructive Reach isn't meant to damage you, it's meant to snare and proc Crystal Frags. Let's not forget, unless you're up close when the Twilight dies, rather difficult kind of stand at different locations and with all of the snares and mobility I have, well you get the point, I'll have another one up before you can close the gap.

I wish it was that easy, honestly, I do, it would make PvP challenging but like I said, it's grown boring to me. Outside of an exceptional gank build with CC break being unresponsive or large numbers swarming over me, I don't die. Outside of very tanky builds, enemies don't survive (just becomes a sort of dull nobody dies moment if they are very tanky). It's usually not until at least 3 players show up to fight just me that it gets challenging and even then I win more than I lose.

tinythinker · July 2016

ParaNostram wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

ParaNostram wrote: »

To everyone complaining about Sorcs being weak, allow me to offer unto you how I made my sorc so strong that, honestly, I get bored in PvP.

Gear - Maw of the Inferno, 5 piece HEAVY Julianos, with a Frost staff and a resto Staff.

Stats - 100% magicka, nothing else.

CP allocation - Warrior - 50/50 reduce physical/reduce magical damage.
Thief - Magicka regen, reduce spell cost.
Mage - 100% elemental, then drop the remainder in buffing your heals. This coupled with the heavy armor and the damage reduction will leave you in a state of just not dying if you use your pet heals right.

Bar 1 - Crystal Frag, Daedric Prey, Destructive Reach, Volatile Familiar (I want with this for some extra damage and CC) and Healer Winged Twilight with the Storm Atronach.
Bar 2 - Surge, Streak, Daedric Minefield, and the pets again. For your ult, anything's good but I would recommend something for survival or utility, such as Negate or Bats. It is fun to go Overload spamming still though.

You have neither a ward nor heal once i kill your twilight... whereas you couldn't even scratch me with destructive reach, much less kill without the light armor penetration.

Wards are pretty well worthless mana dumps anymore. Destructive Reach isn't meant to damage you, it's meant to snare and proc Crystal Frags. Let's not forget, unless you're up close when the Twilight dies, rather difficult kind of stand at different locations and with all of the snares and mobility I have, well you get the point, I'll have another one up before you can close the gap.

I wish it was that easy, honestly, I do, it would make PvP challenging but like I said, it's grown boring to me. Outside of an exceptional gank build with CC break being unresponsive or large numbers swarming over me, I don't die. Outside of very tanky builds, enemies don't survive (just becomes a sort of dull nobody dies moment if they are very tanky). It's usually not until at least 3 players show up to fight just me that it gets challenging and even then I win more than I lose.

Would be interesting to see in action. Vids? Stream? I like off the wall ideas and am trying to update one of my Sorcs.

ParaNostram · July 2016

tinythinker wrote: »

ParaNostram wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

ParaNostram wrote: »

To everyone complaining about Sorcs being weak, allow me to offer unto you how I made my sorc so strong that, honestly, I get bored in PvP.

Gear - Maw of the Inferno, 5 piece HEAVY Julianos, with a Frost staff and a resto Staff.

Stats - 100% magicka, nothing else.

CP allocation - Warrior - 50/50 reduce physical/reduce magical damage.
Thief - Magicka regen, reduce spell cost.
Mage - 100% elemental, then drop the remainder in buffing your heals. This coupled with the heavy armor and the damage reduction will leave you in a state of just not dying if you use your pet heals right.

Bar 1 - Crystal Frag, Daedric Prey, Destructive Reach, Volatile Familiar (I want with this for some extra damage and CC) and Healer Winged Twilight with the Storm Atronach.
Bar 2 - Surge, Streak, Daedric Minefield, and the pets again. For your ult, anything's good but I would recommend something for survival or utility, such as Negate or Bats. It is fun to go Overload spamming still though.

You have neither a ward nor heal once i kill your twilight... whereas you couldn't even scratch me with destructive reach, much less kill without the light armor penetration.

Wards are pretty well worthless mana dumps anymore. Destructive Reach isn't meant to damage you, it's meant to snare and proc Crystal Frags. Let's not forget, unless you're up close when the Twilight dies, rather difficult kind of stand at different locations and with all of the snares and mobility I have, well you get the point, I'll have another one up before you can close the gap.

I wish it was that easy, honestly, I do, it would make PvP challenging but like I said, it's grown boring to me. Outside of an exceptional gank build with CC break being unresponsive or large numbers swarming over me, I don't die. Outside of very tanky builds, enemies don't survive (just becomes a sort of dull nobody dies moment if they are very tanky). It's usually not until at least 3 players show up to fight just me that it gets challenging and even then I win more than I lose.

Would be interesting to see in action. Vids? Stream? I like off the wall ideas and am trying to update one of my Sorcs.

I don't have the internet strength to stream effectively and doesn't recording gameplay slow down your computer? Cuz my computer is a $500 laptop from like two years ago :P

Minalan · July 2016

Hashtag_ wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Sorcs are finally balanced. I honestly think them, magica NB and magica Dk are where everything else should be.

Yeah, they're so balanced that noone plays them anymore. Definition of balanced when noone plays the class, right? :P

They're not an easy button anymore. All the bad sorcs went magplar since it's the new easy button class. Sorcs are just as strong, if not stronger this patch. Quit QQ'ing.

Not stronger by a mile, losing inevitable det, trapping webs, and dawn breaker is enough proof of that.

psychotic13 wrote: »

In PvP sorcs are fine stop whining, and L2P your build.
In PvE I can't comment on that, as I rarely play it.

I'm glad you have a build that works, I'd love to fight it sometime. With a Stam Nightblade or a Stam DK.

We do have a skill floor issue with this class that needs to be addressed, damage builds don't really work anymore, and everyone is running seducer (one set) nowadays to compete. You don't see a problem here?

I want a class everyone can play with a more diverse set of really good builds. Not a class where an elite few do really good, and not one build in twelve runs it.