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Priest of the Green outfit
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Just listen to the tree-hugers in Grahtwood and how they pick on a poor khajiit, who has eaten a couple of plants - they are freaks when it comes to nature, even there is no lifeform in nature which would not have to feed on other lifeforms to stay alive. It is just mindless fanaticism, what drives these people.0 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »I was really looking forward to this costume based on the initial art, but in game it's just weird. It expands the character model way too much, and the facemask looks like a tiny strip of fabric instead of a mask.
Oh well. 1000 crowns saved.
I agree. A veil of sorts hanging from the hood while covering the lower half of the face would look much nicer and give volume to costume, which is something most costume desperately need.
I think it's a gag
You know, like some Tongues needed to be gagged lest their Voice would destroy everything around them
Spinners can alter reality and even history/memory (Aranias) so I guess that's a prevention method for them too... for blabbermouth Spinners
Thanks for the lore explanation on this. I had forgotten all about spinners and don't even know what a Tongue is!
It still looks asthetically awful, as subjective as that may be.
Can we meet half way and say it is magically infused veil that casts silence on wearer?
A Tongue is a warrior (usually a Nord) who has learned how to use the Thu'um or the Voice. Dragons and Dragonborn can naturally understand the Dragon Language and Shout, but for regular mortals it is much more difficult to do that. They have to study and practice for years to learn even the simplest Words of Power
And there's the risk that their Voice could go out of control: that even a simple whisper can cause the ground to shake. That's why they are gagged (like Ulfric in Skyrim, who was gagged when he was on the prison transport to Helgen since he could Shout the Imperials to pieces) or they don't speak at all like the Greybeards.
Hence I think that for Spinners, who can change the Story even, there's a similar method to prevent them from doing harm.
And yes, it could be magical, like a lock or smth
To be fair, as I recall, Ulfric only knew Unrelenting Force, so the "shouted him to pieces" phrase was a little hyperbolic.
True, he did quit his studies with the Greybeards to return to politics and fight in the war, so his knowledge could be limited ti 1 or 2 shouts...
But as it was shown in Dragonborn, the Fus Ro Dah shout does have the potential to blast someone to an ash pile. And Ulfric knew that Shout much longer than the Dragonborn so he could've practiced with that to reach that lvl"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU0 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »I was really looking forward to this costume based on the initial art, but in game it's just weird. It expands the character model way too much, and the facemask looks like a tiny strip of fabric instead of a mask.
Oh well. 1000 crowns saved.
I agree. A veil of sorts hanging from the hood while covering the lower half of the face would look much nicer and give volume to costume, which is something most costume desperately need.
I think it's a gag
You know, like some Tongues needed to be gagged lest their Voice would destroy everything around them
Spinners can alter reality and even history/memory (Aranias) so I guess that's a prevention method for them too... for blabbermouth Spinners
Thanks for the lore explanation on this. I had forgotten all about spinners and don't even know what a Tongue is!
It still looks asthetically awful, as subjective as that may be.
Can we meet half way and say it is magically infused veil that casts silence on wearer?
A Tongue is a warrior (usually a Nord) who has learned how to use the Thu'um or the Voice. Dragons and Dragonborn can naturally understand the Dragon Language and Shout, but for regular mortals it is much more difficult to do that. They have to study and practice for years to learn even the simplest Words of Power
And there's the risk that their Voice could go out of control: that even a simple whisper can cause the ground to shake. That's why they are gagged (like Ulfric in Skyrim, who was gagged when he was on the prison transport to Helgen since he could Shout the Imperials to pieces) or they don't speak at all like the Greybeards.
Hence I think that for Spinners, who can change the Story even, there's a similar method to prevent them from doing harm.
And yes, it could be magical, like a lock or smth
To be fair, as I recall, Ulfric only knew Unrelenting Force, so the "shouted him to pieces" phrase was a little hyperbolic.
True, he did quit his studies with the Greybeards to return to politics and fight in the war, so his knowledge could be limited ti 1 or 2 shouts...
But as it was shown in Dragonborn, the Fus Ro Dah shout does have the potential to blast someone to an ash pile. And Ulfric knew that Shout much longer than the Dragonborn so he could've practiced with that to reach that lvl
True, just that the Greybeards do not teach Ro and Dah, they just teach Fus and the whirlwind shout to an apprentice.0 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »I was really looking forward to this costume based on the initial art, but in game it's just weird. It expands the character model way too much, and the facemask looks like a tiny strip of fabric instead of a mask.
Oh well. 1000 crowns saved.
I agree. A veil of sorts hanging from the hood while covering the lower half of the face would look much nicer and give volume to costume, which is something most costume desperately need.
I think it's a gag
You know, like some Tongues needed to be gagged lest their Voice would destroy everything around them
Spinners can alter reality and even history/memory (Aranias) so I guess that's a prevention method for them too... for blabbermouth Spinners
Thanks for the lore explanation on this. I had forgotten all about spinners and don't even know what a Tongue is!
It still looks asthetically awful, as subjective as that may be.
Can we meet half way and say it is magically infused veil that casts silence on wearer?
A Tongue is a warrior (usually a Nord) who has learned how to use the Thu'um or the Voice. Dragons and Dragonborn can naturally understand the Dragon Language and Shout, but for regular mortals it is much more difficult to do that. They have to study and practice for years to learn even the simplest Words of Power
And there's the risk that their Voice could go out of control: that even a simple whisper can cause the ground to shake. That's why they are gagged (like Ulfric in Skyrim, who was gagged when he was on the prison transport to Helgen since he could Shout the Imperials to pieces) or they don't speak at all like the Greybeards.
Hence I think that for Spinners, who can change the Story even, there's a similar method to prevent them from doing harm.
And yes, it could be magical, like a lock or smth
To be fair, as I recall, Ulfric only knew Unrelenting Force, so the "shouted him to pieces" phrase was a little hyperbolic.
True, he did quit his studies with the Greybeards to return to politics and fight in the war, so his knowledge could be limited ti 1 or 2 shouts...
But as it was shown in Dragonborn, the Fus Ro Dah shout does have the potential to blast someone to an ash pile. And Ulfric knew that Shout much longer than the Dragonborn so he could've practiced with that to reach that lvl
True, just that the Greybeards do not teach Ro and Dah, they just teach Fus and the whirlwind shout to an apprentice.
They taught Ro, Dah and Wuld"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU1 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I spy with my little eye...
Some plant in the pouch of that Priest of the Green costume. Wouldn't go so well with the Green Pact unless collected outside of Valenwood. But despite the description, that doesn't look like something a Spinner would wear in Valenwood anyway. It is a tropical forest after all, and those robes look way too heavy. But I can see a Vicar of Jephre wearing something like that in High Rock.
If it was alrdy a dead plant when the Spinner picked it up, the Green won't punish him for it.
Or as explained in Greenshade: if a plant can become a danger to the forest, it must be destroyed too. Bosmer look at the Green as a whole
It very much depends on the Bosmer and how traditional/fanatic they are, as we can see on all the Valenwood maps. Like the quest Pact Advocate in Grahtwood shows us, the Green will punish a Bosmer who ordered a plant to be cut, a Bosmer who used that plant although it was already dead when they picked it up or a non-Bosmer who cut the plant all the same. Meanwhile, there are Bosmer who are perfectly okay with asking someone else to remove trees if they need more space, and nothing happens to them for it. So in the end, it depends on how their peers judge them. That means that if it was already dead when the Spinner picked up but a more traditional Bosmer finds out about it, they can very much offer the Spinner to the Ooze and they will go to it all the same as any Oathbreaker. In fact, anyone can go to the Ooze if taken to the Ouze (the physical link to the Ooze as some Bosmer believe).
Indaenir sees the Green as a whole and believes that's how the Bosmer must see the Green. But that is not truth for a big number of Bosmer. In Reaper's March, when talking to a NPC, she mentions that her relatives would freak out if they knew she was burning trees, despite the dire need for it during the war (to protect the Dominion and, therefore, also Valenwood).
The only exception that seems to be pretty much a consensus is that it is alright to use plants that are from outside of Valenwood. That would be the only safe option for a Spinner on this case, and even that would be risky if they bump into a particularly radical group of Bosmer who do not believe that plant in particular is not from Valenwood (especially with how fresh it looks being bright green and all).
I find it very interesting to see all the different views that the Bosmer have of the Green Pact. They have drastically different beliefs and life styles depending on where in Valenwood they live.Just listen to the tree-hugers in Grahtwood and how they pick on a poor khajiit, who has eaten a couple of plants - they are freaks when it comes to nature, even there is no lifeform in nature which would not have to feed on other lifeforms to stay alive. It is just mindless fanaticism, what drives these people.
To be fair, that Bosmer in particularly was mostly giving that Khajiit a scare (the one who ate a flower, right?). And the Bosmer have good reason to be "fanatics". They don't want to go back to a state of ever-changing form like it was before the pact with Y'ffre, and protecting the forest from outsiders is part of the pact. I honestly can't blame them (also it is not all nature that they have to protect, just the plants). It is not mindless fanaticism when there is a very legitimate reason for acting that way, which is the case with the Bosmer.Edited by Abeille on July 7, 2016 10:17PMJust so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.2 -
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✭✭That costume is awful... especially the mask. I tried it on my char and it looked like this:Edited by Tyrion87 on July 7, 2016 10:17PM2 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »I was really looking forward to this costume based on the initial art, but in game it's just weird. It expands the character model way too much, and the facemask looks like a tiny strip of fabric instead of a mask.
Oh well. 1000 crowns saved.
I agree. A veil of sorts hanging from the hood while covering the lower half of the face would look much nicer and give volume to costume, which is something most costume desperately need.
I think it's a gag
You know, like some Tongues needed to be gagged lest their Voice would destroy everything around them
Spinners can alter reality and even history/memory (Aranias) so I guess that's a prevention method for them too... for blabbermouth Spinners
Thanks for the lore explanation on this. I had forgotten all about spinners and don't even know what a Tongue is!
It still looks asthetically awful, as subjective as that may be.
Can we meet half way and say it is magically infused veil that casts silence on wearer?
A Tongue is a warrior (usually a Nord) who has learned how to use the Thu'um or the Voice. Dragons and Dragonborn can naturally understand the Dragon Language and Shout, but for regular mortals it is much more difficult to do that. They have to study and practice for years to learn even the simplest Words of Power
And there's the risk that their Voice could go out of control: that even a simple whisper can cause the ground to shake. That's why they are gagged (like Ulfric in Skyrim, who was gagged when he was on the prison transport to Helgen since he could Shout the Imperials to pieces) or they don't speak at all like the Greybeards.
Hence I think that for Spinners, who can change the Story even, there's a similar method to prevent them from doing harm.
And yes, it could be magical, like a lock or smth
To be fair, as I recall, Ulfric only knew Unrelenting Force, so the "shouted him to pieces" phrase was a little hyperbolic.
True, he did quit his studies with the Greybeards to return to politics and fight in the war, so his knowledge could be limited ti 1 or 2 shouts...
But as it was shown in Dragonborn, the Fus Ro Dah shout does have the potential to blast someone to an ash pile. And Ulfric knew that Shout much longer than the Dragonborn so he could've practiced with that to reach that lvl
Unlikely. The Dragonborn have a supernatural affinity for the Shouts. Well, technically an Aedric affinity. It's unlikely that Ulfric could have reached the level of proficiency in Shouting that the player character had by the time they met the Graybeards.
Especially if Ulfric only knew three words, there is no way he could have reached Miraak's level of power.0 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »I was really looking forward to this costume based on the initial art, but in game it's just weird. It expands the character model way too much, and the facemask looks like a tiny strip of fabric instead of a mask.
Oh well. 1000 crowns saved.
I agree. A veil of sorts hanging from the hood while covering the lower half of the face would look much nicer and give volume to costume, which is something most costume desperately need.
I think it's a gag
You know, like some Tongues needed to be gagged lest their Voice would destroy everything around them
Spinners can alter reality and even history/memory (Aranias) so I guess that's a prevention method for them too... for blabbermouth Spinners
Thanks for the lore explanation on this. I had forgotten all about spinners and don't even know what a Tongue is!
It still looks asthetically awful, as subjective as that may be.
Can we meet half way and say it is magically infused veil that casts silence on wearer?
A Tongue is a warrior (usually a Nord) who has learned how to use the Thu'um or the Voice. Dragons and Dragonborn can naturally understand the Dragon Language and Shout, but for regular mortals it is much more difficult to do that. They have to study and practice for years to learn even the simplest Words of Power
And there's the risk that their Voice could go out of control: that even a simple whisper can cause the ground to shake. That's why they are gagged (like Ulfric in Skyrim, who was gagged when he was on the prison transport to Helgen since he could Shout the Imperials to pieces) or they don't speak at all like the Greybeards.
Hence I think that for Spinners, who can change the Story even, there's a similar method to prevent them from doing harm.
And yes, it could be magical, like a lock or smth
To be fair, as I recall, Ulfric only knew Unrelenting Force, so the "shouted him to pieces" phrase was a little hyperbolic.
True, he did quit his studies with the Greybeards to return to politics and fight in the war, so his knowledge could be limited ti 1 or 2 shouts...
But as it was shown in Dragonborn, the Fus Ro Dah shout does have the potential to blast someone to an ash pile. And Ulfric knew that Shout much longer than the Dragonborn so he could've practiced with that to reach that lvl
Unlikely. The Dragonborn have a supernatural affinity for the Shouts. Well, technically an Aedric affinity. It's unlikely that Ulfric could have reached the level of proficiency in Shouting that the player character had by the time they met the Graybeards.
Especially if Ulfric only knew three words, there is no way he could have reached Miraak's level of power.
Well I'm not saying that he reached the same level as a Dragonborn, just that he's had more time to practice with that one Shout (more than the Last Dragonborn) and that he became so proficient with it that he could actually Shout someone to pieces. And the Dragonborn took it a step further by actually disintegrating someone with Unrelenting Force"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU0 -
RAGUNAnoOne✭✭✭✭✭
✭FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »Is this out on PS4? I must have it :O
It's only on PTS right now
Nope it's out now
And massively overpriced
What else is new...PS4 NA
Argonian Master Race
PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
Support Tail armor and tail ribbons: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/236333/concept-tail-armor-for-beast-races#latest
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✭✭✭✭✭Well, at least you can tell your female character has breasts (unlike with many other costumes).
Silivren (Silly) Thalionwen | Altmer Templar | Magicka | 9-Trait Master Crafter/Jeweler | Master Angler | PVE Main - Killed by U35
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Swiftpaws-Moonshadow | Khajiit Nightblade | Stamina
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starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »I was really looking forward to this costume based on the initial art, but in game it's just weird. It expands the character model way too much, and the facemask looks like a tiny strip of fabric instead of a mask.
Oh well. 1000 crowns saved.
I agree. A veil of sorts hanging from the hood while covering the lower half of the face would look much nicer and give volume to costume, which is something most costume desperately need.
I think it's a gag
You know, like some Tongues needed to be gagged lest their Voice would destroy everything around them
Spinners can alter reality and even history/memory (Aranias) so I guess that's a prevention method for them too... for blabbermouth Spinners
Thanks for the lore explanation on this. I had forgotten all about spinners and don't even know what a Tongue is!
It still looks asthetically awful, as subjective as that may be.
Can we meet half way and say it is magically infused veil that casts silence on wearer?
A Tongue is a warrior (usually a Nord) who has learned how to use the Thu'um or the Voice. Dragons and Dragonborn can naturally understand the Dragon Language and Shout, but for regular mortals it is much more difficult to do that. They have to study and practice for years to learn even the simplest Words of Power
And there's the risk that their Voice could go out of control: that even a simple whisper can cause the ground to shake. That's why they are gagged (like Ulfric in Skyrim, who was gagged when he was on the prison transport to Helgen since he could Shout the Imperials to pieces) or they don't speak at all like the Greybeards.
Hence I think that for Spinners, who can change the Story even, there's a similar method to prevent them from doing harm.
And yes, it could be magical, like a lock or smth
To be fair, as I recall, Ulfric only knew Unrelenting Force, so the "shouted him to pieces" phrase was a little hyperbolic.
True, he did quit his studies with the Greybeards to return to politics and fight in the war, so his knowledge could be limited ti 1 or 2 shouts...
But as it was shown in Dragonborn, the Fus Ro Dah shout does have the potential to blast someone to an ash pile. And Ulfric knew that Shout much longer than the Dragonborn so he could've practiced with that to reach that lvl
Unlikely. The Dragonborn have a supernatural affinity for the Shouts. Well, technically an Aedric affinity. It's unlikely that Ulfric could have reached the level of proficiency in Shouting that the player character had by the time they met the Graybeards.
Especially if Ulfric only knew three words, there is no way he could have reached Miraak's level of power.
Well I'm not saying that he reached the same level as a Dragonborn, just that he's had more time to practice with that one Shout (more than the Last Dragonborn) and that he became so proficient with it that he could actually Shout someone to pieces. And the Dragonborn took it a step further by actually disintegrating someone with Unrelenting Force
The problem with this is: there's four tiers of Unrelenting Force. Fus. Ro. Dah. And vaporize that puppy.
For normal humans, it takes years of study and reflection to learn and internalize each word.
The vaporization version isn't conventionally available. The only source we're aware of is from one of the Black Books. So, unless Ulfric is secretly a devotee of Hermeus Mora...
You see the problem here?Edited by starkerealm on July 7, 2016 10:44PM1 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »I was really looking forward to this costume based on the initial art, but in game it's just weird. It expands the character model way too much, and the facemask looks like a tiny strip of fabric instead of a mask.
Oh well. 1000 crowns saved.
I agree. A veil of sorts hanging from the hood while covering the lower half of the face would look much nicer and give volume to costume, which is something most costume desperately need.
I think it's a gag
You know, like some Tongues needed to be gagged lest their Voice would destroy everything around them
Spinners can alter reality and even history/memory (Aranias) so I guess that's a prevention method for them too... for blabbermouth Spinners
Thanks for the lore explanation on this. I had forgotten all about spinners and don't even know what a Tongue is!
It still looks asthetically awful, as subjective as that may be.
Can we meet half way and say it is magically infused veil that casts silence on wearer?
A Tongue is a warrior (usually a Nord) who has learned how to use the Thu'um or the Voice. Dragons and Dragonborn can naturally understand the Dragon Language and Shout, but for regular mortals it is much more difficult to do that. They have to study and practice for years to learn even the simplest Words of Power
And there's the risk that their Voice could go out of control: that even a simple whisper can cause the ground to shake. That's why they are gagged (like Ulfric in Skyrim, who was gagged when he was on the prison transport to Helgen since he could Shout the Imperials to pieces) or they don't speak at all like the Greybeards.
Hence I think that for Spinners, who can change the Story even, there's a similar method to prevent them from doing harm.
And yes, it could be magical, like a lock or smth
To be fair, as I recall, Ulfric only knew Unrelenting Force, so the "shouted him to pieces" phrase was a little hyperbolic.
True, he did quit his studies with the Greybeards to return to politics and fight in the war, so his knowledge could be limited ti 1 or 2 shouts...
But as it was shown in Dragonborn, the Fus Ro Dah shout does have the potential to blast someone to an ash pile. And Ulfric knew that Shout much longer than the Dragonborn so he could've practiced with that to reach that lvl
Unlikely. The Dragonborn have a supernatural affinity for the Shouts. Well, technically an Aedric affinity. It's unlikely that Ulfric could have reached the level of proficiency in Shouting that the player character had by the time they met the Graybeards.
Especially if Ulfric only knew three words, there is no way he could have reached Miraak's level of power.
Well I'm not saying that he reached the same level as a Dragonborn, just that he's had more time to practice with that one Shout (more than the Last Dragonborn) and that he became so proficient with it that he could actually Shout someone to pieces. And the Dragonborn took it a step further by actually disintegrating someone with Unrelenting Force
Doesn't Ulfric himself says he didn't actually shout the poor High King apart, but actually cut his throat with his blade after throwing the kid back by shouting? Or something along these lines?Edited by Abeille on July 7, 2016 10:46PMJust so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »I was really looking forward to this costume based on the initial art, but in game it's just weird. It expands the character model way too much, and the facemask looks like a tiny strip of fabric instead of a mask.
Oh well. 1000 crowns saved.
I agree. A veil of sorts hanging from the hood while covering the lower half of the face would look much nicer and give volume to costume, which is something most costume desperately need.
I think it's a gag
You know, like some Tongues needed to be gagged lest their Voice would destroy everything around them
Spinners can alter reality and even history/memory (Aranias) so I guess that's a prevention method for them too... for blabbermouth Spinners
Thanks for the lore explanation on this. I had forgotten all about spinners and don't even know what a Tongue is!
It still looks asthetically awful, as subjective as that may be.
Can we meet half way and say it is magically infused veil that casts silence on wearer?
A Tongue is a warrior (usually a Nord) who has learned how to use the Thu'um or the Voice. Dragons and Dragonborn can naturally understand the Dragon Language and Shout, but for regular mortals it is much more difficult to do that. They have to study and practice for years to learn even the simplest Words of Power
And there's the risk that their Voice could go out of control: that even a simple whisper can cause the ground to shake. That's why they are gagged (like Ulfric in Skyrim, who was gagged when he was on the prison transport to Helgen since he could Shout the Imperials to pieces) or they don't speak at all like the Greybeards.
Hence I think that for Spinners, who can change the Story even, there's a similar method to prevent them from doing harm.
And yes, it could be magical, like a lock or smth
To be fair, as I recall, Ulfric only knew Unrelenting Force, so the "shouted him to pieces" phrase was a little hyperbolic.
True, he did quit his studies with the Greybeards to return to politics and fight in the war, so his knowledge could be limited ti 1 or 2 shouts...
But as it was shown in Dragonborn, the Fus Ro Dah shout does have the potential to blast someone to an ash pile. And Ulfric knew that Shout much longer than the Dragonborn so he could've practiced with that to reach that lvl
Unlikely. The Dragonborn have a supernatural affinity for the Shouts. Well, technically an Aedric affinity. It's unlikely that Ulfric could have reached the level of proficiency in Shouting that the player character had by the time they met the Graybeards.
Especially if Ulfric only knew three words, there is no way he could have reached Miraak's level of power.
Well I'm not saying that he reached the same level as a Dragonborn, just that he's had more time to practice with that one Shout (more than the Last Dragonborn) and that he became so proficient with it that he could actually Shout someone to pieces. And the Dragonborn took it a step further by actually disintegrating someone with Unrelenting Force
Doesn't Ulfric himself says he didn't actually shout the poor High King apart, but actually cut his throat with his blade after throwing the kid back by shouting? Or something along these lines?
Not that I recall, but that version makes a lot more sense.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »WolfingHour wrote: »I was really looking forward to this costume based on the initial art, but in game it's just weird. It expands the character model way too much, and the facemask looks like a tiny strip of fabric instead of a mask.
Oh well. 1000 crowns saved.
I agree. A veil of sorts hanging from the hood while covering the lower half of the face would look much nicer and give volume to costume, which is something most costume desperately need.
I think it's a gag
You know, like some Tongues needed to be gagged lest their Voice would destroy everything around them
Spinners can alter reality and even history/memory (Aranias) so I guess that's a prevention method for them too... for blabbermouth Spinners
Thanks for the lore explanation on this. I had forgotten all about spinners and don't even know what a Tongue is!
It still looks asthetically awful, as subjective as that may be.
Can we meet half way and say it is magically infused veil that casts silence on wearer?
A Tongue is a warrior (usually a Nord) who has learned how to use the Thu'um or the Voice. Dragons and Dragonborn can naturally understand the Dragon Language and Shout, but for regular mortals it is much more difficult to do that. They have to study and practice for years to learn even the simplest Words of Power
And there's the risk that their Voice could go out of control: that even a simple whisper can cause the ground to shake. That's why they are gagged (like Ulfric in Skyrim, who was gagged when he was on the prison transport to Helgen since he could Shout the Imperials to pieces) or they don't speak at all like the Greybeards.
Hence I think that for Spinners, who can change the Story even, there's a similar method to prevent them from doing harm.
And yes, it could be magical, like a lock or smth
To be fair, as I recall, Ulfric only knew Unrelenting Force, so the "shouted him to pieces" phrase was a little hyperbolic.
True, he did quit his studies with the Greybeards to return to politics and fight in the war, so his knowledge could be limited ti 1 or 2 shouts...
But as it was shown in Dragonborn, the Fus Ro Dah shout does have the potential to blast someone to an ash pile. And Ulfric knew that Shout much longer than the Dragonborn so he could've practiced with that to reach that lvl
Unlikely. The Dragonborn have a supernatural affinity for the Shouts. Well, technically an Aedric affinity. It's unlikely that Ulfric could have reached the level of proficiency in Shouting that the player character had by the time they met the Graybeards.
Especially if Ulfric only knew three words, there is no way he could have reached Miraak's level of power.
Well I'm not saying that he reached the same level as a Dragonborn, just that he's had more time to practice with that one Shout (more than the Last Dragonborn) and that he became so proficient with it that he could actually Shout someone to pieces. And the Dragonborn took it a step further by actually disintegrating someone with Unrelenting Force
Doesn't Ulfric himself says he didn't actually shout the poor High King apart, but actually cut his throat with his blade after throwing the kid back by shouting? Or something along these lines?
Not that I recall, but that version makes a lot more sense.
It's been a while, but I do remember something like that. Or was it Jarl Elisif who said that Ulfric's blade was what actually killed her husband? I really can't recall. No, it was definitely Ulfric. Elisif, like many pro-Empire, claim Torygg was shouted apart. The Civil War quest line damaged the image of the Nords too much for me (I recovered, though, and I love my Nord Cryomancer in ESO), so I didn't do it again after the first time back when the game was released. There is a lot I can't remember ~.~
UESP: "According to Ulfric, he challenged Torygg for the right to be High King, knocked him to the ground with the thu'um, then dispatched him with a sword."Edited by Abeille on July 7, 2016 11:07PMJust so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.0 -
greylox✭✭✭✭✭This such a great costume.. one of my favs
Is that dyed on pts? I'm gonna buy it to dye.PC EU
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✭✭✭✭✭The robes OK I guess,the face mask/chin strap looks unfinished. Might be good for bumfights rp2 -
KramUzibra✭✭✭✭Love it!! Not over priced either in my opinion. Between my account and my younger sister iv spent a couple grand on this game and plan on spending more!!! I love eso!!0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It doesn't look too bad on other people. Just looks awful on mine >.<
It happens. I have the same problem with the Treethane Ceremonial Dress. It looks just awful on my Bosmer.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.0 -
Ffastyl✭✭✭✭✭The costumes and armors of late have had actual volume to them. The old armors are for the most part a retexture of your character's skin, making them form fitting. The current works look like you are wearing something."A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."
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✭✭✭✭✭The covering over the mouth ruins it...along with adding 120 lbs to my character.
I don't mind that my characters do not look that skinny in it, but I really do not like the mask - it is terrible.
Well, when I think about it, my males cannot wear this robe, it makes them look like an obese monk.Edited by Lysette on July 10, 2016 11:52PM2
