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    On a side note, I would agree that adrenaline rush is a bit OP.

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    I've just made a dk redguard stamina let me play a little before asking for a nerf.



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  • juhasman
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    @MaxwellCrystal dont belive everything they write. And this post is 4 months old.
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    @juhasman
    This is from ZOS... lol I'm not sure what else to say it's intended to not be affected by battle spirit and even if it was 4 months ago or a year ago patch notes show nothing being changed prior from that statement.
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  • juhasman
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    This is from ZOS... lol I'm not sure what else to say it's intended to not be affected by battle spirit and even if it was 4 months ago or a year ago patch notes show nothing being changed prior from that statement.

    @MaxwellCrystal I know that it has been said by ZoS but that does mean nothing. I tested it for You today look. http://imgur.com/a/oc4Yy
    It should deal dmg equal to 25% of dmg stored so over 2k.
    Edited by juhasman on July 7, 2016 8:23PM
  • KingDuncanVII
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    KaiVox22 wrote: »
    Magicka based characters need dodge roll based off their max magicka then everything would be fine.

    I disagree. When playing a magicka build you generally have more access to good class survivability skills anyway.

    Sorc has Streak
    Nightblade can spam cloak indefinitely
    Templar has BoL
    Dragonknight can... do dragon stuff

    I disagree. Not all magicka based classes get major evasion.

    And not all classes gets its own shield (Sorcs also get to have TWO all damage shields up). Or it's own one-shot heal. Every class has something the others don't have - that's called balance.
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  • MaxwellC
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    @juhasman no matter how you calculate it that doesn't equate to battle spirit. Multiply the 50% with the wrecking blow then factor in 25% of that out come as your undeniable damage output and it would still equal no where to 780. Message Jessica Folsom or Gina and see what's wrong but the fact is its not affected by battle spirit no psych notes suggest that it is.
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  • juhasman
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    @juhasman no matter how you calculate it that doesn't equate to battle spirit. Multiply the 50% with the wrecking blow then factor in 25% of that out come as your undeniable damage output and it would still equal no where to 780. Message Jessica Folsom or Gina and see what's wrong but the fact is its not affected by battle spirit no psych notes suggest that it is.

    My calculation is that. Lets say You hit target with 0 armor. On PvE Your wrecking blow hits 10k with crit 15k on PvP hits 5k on crit 7,5k (i dont count cp's , mundus and class passives). With 3,3k impenetrable it'll hit for 5k with or without crit but cps, and class passives still can increase this value. Now add resists and other things to this calculations snd You'll see it seems to work right.
  • deepseamk20b14_ESO
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    I have 2600 stamina regen and 33 points into tumbling with one well fitted piece at the moment. I have 27k stamina. I can roll dodge back to back 6 times before being completely out of stamina. If I use a pot 7 times.....roll dodge has been merged enough. I feel as if you didn't play during 1.6 update when there was no increased penalty to dodge roll. Now THAT was truly infinite dodge roll. Can somone build to dodge roll more than 6 times? Possibly, but they lack greatly in other departments.
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  • Ep1kMalware
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    Birdovic wrote: »
    Magicka based characters need dodge roll based off their max magicka then everything would be fine.

    they have this, it's called shields -_-

    infact, you cant even crit on shields. you want roll dodge + shields? stam gets shields too.

    Without a underperforming set, they dont have a Dodge. Also, you got a Shield availaible, it just happens nobody needs to use it, guess why?

    Right, a Dodge Roll is better than a Shield.

    yeh, but it's an option we don't have available. also they're releasing the new maxhealth/s]magica/stam regen (and similar) foods, Inw]= wonder of that was intended partially as a solution to this.
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    On a side note, I would agree that adrenaline rush is a bit OP.

    No no no no bad troll..bad
    I've just made a dk redguard stamina let me play a little before asking for a nerf.



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    Like you need to be a Redguard for good resource management as a DK. Lol my stam Nord DK goes through VMSA like a breeze with no resource management issues, and that's without using the serpent stone. The only class that I believe has better resource management that DKS are stam sorcs. Cost reduction + 20% more stam regen AND +8% more max stamina. Lol if only other classes had it so good.
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    Sallington wrote: »
    KaiVox22 wrote: »
    Magicka based characters need dodge roll based off their max magicka then everything would be fine.

    I disagree. When playing a magicka build you generally have more access to good class survivability skills anyway.

    Sorc has Streak
    Nightblade can spam cloak indefinitely/shadow image
    Templar has BoL
    Dragonknight can... do dragon stuff

    I'd give up a BoL for a Templar escape in a heartbeat.

    ZOS can you please give templars the Nightblade's cloak in exchange for their major mending? Pretty please? Call it blinding light or something lol ;-)
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