UPDATE: Zenimax official statment of gap closers being an exploit in here

Trublz · July 2016

I don't see any difference between this and animation canceling... It wasnt originally intended but, yet, nothing will be done about it.. Use it to your advantage or find another game if it bothers you that much...

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

Trublz wrote: »

I don't see any difference between this and animation canceling... It wasnt originally intended but, yet, nothing will be done about it.. Use it to your advantage or find another game if it bothers you that much...

The difference is animation cancelling has been labeled as an official game mechanic and is therefore legit. Wall jumping has not and is not. Until the day Zenimax says otherwise that is the difference.

TheDarkShadow · July 2016

Gap closer only work like this now because the devs cannot find a way for gap closers to work properly. Or they cannot work at all, or it work far better than intended. Before TG (or is it DB?) all gap closers except ambush/lotus fan were buggy and made you stuck like half of the time. Even take flight was buggy. They "fixed" that bug, yet created another problem: keep jump.

Dracane · July 2016

TheDarkShadow wrote: »

Gap closer only work like this now because the devs cannot find a way for gap closers to work properly. Or they cannot work at all, or it work far better than intended. Before TG (or is it DB?) all gap closers except ambush/lotus fan were buggy and made you stuck like half of the time. Even take flight was buggy. They "fixed" that bug, yet created another problem: keep jump.

They should nerf the range. They are too strong anyway.^^

UltimaJoe777 · July 2016

TheDarkShadow wrote: »

Gap closer only work like this now because the devs cannot find a way for gap closers to work properly. Or they cannot work at all, or it work far better than intended. Before TG (or is it DB?) all gap closers except ambush/lotus fan were buggy and made you stuck like half of the time. Even take flight was buggy. They "fixed" that bug, yet created another problem: keep jump.

Because the problem is elevation checking. By removing the limits there they have made it so jumping keep walls is possible like it was before so we would not get stopped by minor bumps in the ground, which was a big problem for everyone and constantly complained about. Basically Zenimax cannot win for losing.

Tonnopesce · July 2016

TheDarkShadow wrote: »

Gap closer only work like this now because the devs cannot find a way for gap closers to work properly. Or they cannot work at all, or it work far better than intended. Before TG (or is it DB?) all gap closers except ambush/lotus fan were buggy and made you stuck like half of the time. Even take flight was buggy. They "fixed" that bug, yet created another problem: keep jump.

Take Flight is still buggy,crit charge is still buggy and templars charge is buggy.
I dont see how they can fix it now...

@UltimaJoe777
I somehow missed an entire page of this thread...
Now i get the rage behind this, emperor have already a "cheat mode" activated and jumping into keeps as an emperor is really lame.
When i jump into keeps i usually do it for the fun and in ten seconds i'm dead without causing real issues to the players defending and probably i do it once or twice a week when i'm bored...
Exploiting and come here in the forums claming that since is there you can use it is stupid.

Horker · July 2016

yodased wrote: »

All day today, all day yesterday. Literally right now.

Blue emp clearly exploiting gap into both levels of keep.

Has pocket healer with him, obviously has yellow friend helping him.

I had a conversation with this person and they said, it has been in the game so long that it may as well be intended. Also they said, it's not like this helps me take keeps.

He then proceeded to exploit into BloodMayne and take it with his healer, so I have a question @ZOS_BrianWheeler, why is this ok?

What do you plan on doing about the fact that the emperor of a campaign is clearly cheating this blatantly?

Yes, reported and I begged everyone else to report as well but, what the actual ***?

@zos_JessicaFolsom please don't bury this, i mean come on

everyone can get into keeps, not just an emperror, i can shield charge from outer wall stairs into keep once ppl show up at the edge of the wall, aswell for take flight/critrush u can gap close inside outposts/inner keeps trough the oiling frame roof part.

dashima · July 2016

IT GETS WORSE!

Needless to say, got called a cheater. Zos fix pls.

If it makes you guys feel any better, AD was once having a naked /danceredguard party on Alessia's walls and these very same DC decided to join us up there.... and wiped to a group of NAKED pugs. NOTHING EQUIPPED! There was like 5 of them, 10 naked AD and they couldn't even kill anyone. It gave me severe secondhand embarrassment.

The main point is: these guys are very bad dancers. They shouldn't be allowed to party if they never learned to cha-cha slide.

Benawaw89 · July 2016

it is an exploit if:

1. the skill (gap closer) work as intended, and still can jump or fly into the air, then it is an exploit

but but but , look at this gap closer. this skill doenst even work on flat ground where we suppose to use it to gap closer, the only thing that work from this skill is jump or fly into the keep. so it is not an exploit, it is a fair trade.

Cherryblossom · July 2016

Maxima333 wrote: »

Is not his fault if he shows up tomorrow. Is Zenimax 's fault for allowing a player to disrespect so much effort and passion their Company invested on this game.

This comment sums up everything wrong with this thread.

It's actually Zenimax's fault for allowing a broken mechanic into the live game, this was know on the PTS, yet it was still introduced into the game.

you can attack people like @Azurethe as much as you want, but it still does not remove Zenimax's responsibility, they were aware of the issue, they know it would be used, they still added it to the game.

I think everyone should use it, only when something becomes a huge issue do Zenimax ever do anything.

Can someone link where Zenimax have actually said this is an exploit, not just that its not intended, because I can't find it, if they have I would like to rip them a new one.

Nifty2g · July 2016

didn't they refer to this several times as a "bug" rather than an "exploit", i doubt any action will be taken because of a broken mechanic, it's their issue not really the players.

DRXHarbinger · July 2016

yodased wrote: »

All day today, all day yesterday. Literally right now.

Blue emp clearly exploiting gap into both levels of keep.

Has pocket healer with him, obviously has yellow friend helping him.

I had a conversation with this person and they said, it has been in the game so long that it may as well be intended. Also they said, it's not like this helps me take keeps.

He then proceeded to exploit into BloodMayne and take it with his healer, so I have a question @ZOS_BrianWheeler, why is this ok?

What do you plan on doing about the fact that the emperor of a campaign is clearly cheating this blatantly?

Yes, reported and I begged everyone else to report as well but, what the actual ***?

@zos_JessicaFolsom please don't bury this, i mean come on

Slot the bow ability or a knock back and blast them back down.

NinjaApacHe · July 2016

Azurethe wrote: »

But I mean, its like, I look at the ground and there are like 30-40 AD dead, and I think like, this is pretty sad

Then I look at my AP per hour and it shows 160K and then I feel better about myself

Its wrong ofc, and its our issue, but its also ZOS' for breaking something so important to the game's structure

Hope they will ban you. Really shameful. And you are even Bullying around. Kids should not be allowed to play games.

Vyshan · July 2016

It's PvP. Not a significant part of the game. Dev resources are better spent elsewhere, fixing things that actually matter.

Grao · July 2016

Azurethe wrote: »

But I mean, its like, I look at the ground and there are like 30-40 AD dead, and I think like, this is pretty sad

Then I look at my AP per hour and it shows 160K and then I feel better about myself

Its wrong ofc, and its our issue, but its also ZOS' for breaking something so important to the game's structure

Well, here it is Zenimax, an emperor, self confessed exploiter and thus in obvious violation of your TOS. I don't care if you close this thread for shaming, I will reopen it every day with a quote of a few of the posts in this thread until we hear from you that this player was disciplined properly or that Zenimax is fine with people using this broken gap closers.

Haquor · July 2016

Azurethe wrote: »

We did not use any friends to gap close in, all were idiots just standing on the edge over and over and over and over again

People literally admitting to exploiting. And clearly proud of it.

Those people standing on the edge may be 'idiots' for NOT adjusting thier play to prevent exploiters. But they are playing in accordance within intended game mechanics. Not exloiting identified and broken ones.

Boasting about AP gain as a justification just shows the immaturity and desperation of this type of player. Do anything to get any kind of advantage and gain as opposed to being satisfied with the gain they would clealry get regardless.

Its never enough i guess.

yodased · July 2016

Guys it really ia not about gap closers.

It's the mentality of these people that needs to stop. The idea that using broken and unfair things because they are there is wrong, in games or in life.

I made this thread because someone is clearly and openly breaking known rules to enjoy an unfair advantage.

This on top of the completely fair advantage of being emperor and an extremely good player simply makes for a very bad experience for just about everyone else in the campaign.

So you are saying that this guy and his lackies get to terrorize the people who just wandered into PvP like they did last night?

Do the people learning how to defend a keep not have a say in an emperor jumping into the castle and melting them all?

There are rules. Follow them.

Nifty2g · July 2016

yodased wrote: »

There are rules. Follow them.

Welcome to the internet, people reveal their true intentions with the help of anonymity to a degree

Crystelle · July 2016

Vyshan wrote: »

It's PvP. Not a significant part of the game. Dev resources are better spent elsewhere, fixing things that actually matter.

Like PvE matters anymore than PvP? The PvE in this game is so faceroll garbage anyone could do it blind and deaf. At least PvP actually requires you to pay attention to what's going on. I'd rather they fixed PvP than do anything more with PvE by a longshot, and so would many others.
Tl;dr how to PvE in ESO

vyndral13preub18_ESO · July 2016

yodased wrote: »

So you are saying that this guy and his lackies get to terrorize the people who just wandered into PvP like they did last night?

this made me laugh out loud. Well done. Terrorize people who just wandered into pvp, comedy gold.

Grao · July 2016

Crystelle wrote: »

Vyshan wrote: »

It's PvP. Not a significant part of the game. Dev resources are better spent elsewhere, fixing things that actually matter.

Like PvE matters anymore than PvP? The PvE in this game is so faceroll garbage anyone could do it blind and deaf. At least PvP actually requires you to pay attention to what's going on. I'd rather they fixed PvP than do anything more with PvE by a longshot, and so would many others.
Tl;dr how to PvE in ESO

I'd prefer if they fixed both... We paid for both after all and both are important for the game.

Voxicity · July 2016

Just an fyi, reporting this exploit results in literally nothing happening, unfortunately.

OGLezard · July 2016

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Just an fyi, reporting this exploit results in literally nothing happening, unfortunately.

everyone who is not new is aware of this

Mortehl · July 2016

Casterial wrote: »

Even your own faction takes advantage of the issue going on right now, every faction does. This is why most of us took a break.

It really sucks a lot. I suppose I'm in the minority but we treb. All the factions are doing it. It's complete bs, and the worst bs of all is the game maker letting it into the game like this in the first place.

I like pvp in elder scrolls online, it's why I keep going despite this and the myriads of other bugs like the sorc implosion bug or the constant load screens. The gap closer situation is testing my patience though.

Duiwel · July 2016

Move the NPCs and don't stand near the edges of the walls - problem solved!

Voxicity · July 2016

OGLezard wrote: »

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Just an fyi, reporting this exploit results in literally nothing happening, unfortunately.

everyone who is not new is aware of this

Then the new people can now be aware of it

mb10 · July 2016

daggerfall is full of exploiters

its like a faction of all the annoying people who play eso in one

Azurethe · July 2016

One thing that I have seen constantly this entire thread is people taking my jokes and forum joke RP so f*cking seriously that I wish the OP had put it in the alliance war section so I didn't have people like this commenting on me. Maybe I would still in PvP section, but it seems everyone here takes what they say very seriously

ku5h wrote: »

Azurethe wrote: »

@UltimaJoe777

Seriously, just stop while you still have any dignity left. You have made yourself out to be a complete tool / fool who keeps responding, cause literally no one wants to hear all about your opinion on me gap closing into a keep, and clearly has a lack of situational awareness to see when someone is joking around. Thanks for your opinion about some loser (SIKE)

"But Lord Master King Azurethe, why are you even taking the time to comment on someone like me?" Because maybe then you can see the error of your ways just like you have very poorly shown me mine (Only been told by like everyone ever, tons of whispers, forum threads thanks)

Though your comments may be in vain to Lord Master Azurethe who literally does not care what you have to think about his highness, but it is nice to hear anyway

You talk to someone about keeping his dignity ..... cheater, when you obviously have none. And btw, you sound like someone who hasn't seen a sun for a really long time, and talked to a real person in a longer. Go out, soak some fresh air, it will do you good.

yodased · July 2016

Azurethe wrote: »

One thing that I have seen constantly this entire thread is people taking my jokes and forum joke RP so f*cking seriously that I wish the OP had put it in the alliance war section so I didn't have people like this commenting on me. Maybe I would still in PvP section, but it seems everyone here takes what they say very seriously

ku5h wrote: »

Azurethe wrote: »

@UltimaJoe777

Seriously, just stop while you still have any dignity left. You have made yourself out to be a complete tool / fool who keeps responding, cause literally no one wants to hear all about your opinion on me gap closing into a keep, and clearly has a lack of situational awareness to see when someone is joking around. Thanks for your opinion about some loser (SIKE)

"But Lord Master King Azurethe, why are you even taking the time to comment on someone like me?" Because maybe then you can see the error of your ways just like you have very poorly shown me mine (Only been told by like everyone ever, tons of whispers, forum threads thanks)

Though your comments may be in vain to Lord Master Azurethe who literally does not care what you have to think about his highness, but it is nice to hear anyway

You talk to someone about keeping his dignity ..... cheater, when you obviously have none. And btw, you sound like someone who hasn't seen a sun for a really long time, and talked to a real person in a longer. Go out, soak some fresh air, it will do you good.

Well, people take cheating and griefing (which this mostly is really) seriously, and you obviously don't because you come to the thread about you cheating and you role play and troll people,

The attitude you have towards other humans is deplorable.

Cuyler · July 2016

I was under the assumption that most the really good PvP guilds (and most the really good PvP players respectively) had left the game due to people cheating, exploiting, lag, etc. and it's like being emperor of the toilet bowl?

I don't usually follow the wack ass PvP in this game however....so maybe I'm wrong and people came back.