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Did a quick Ctrl + F to search for Dragon Knight and couldn't even find it mentioned once.
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    Working as designed.
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    I was sure that you were looking for dragonknights :smile:
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  • Navitas
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    Don't worry Magicka DK will have the Sun set and Syrabane returning to help them...oh wait what's this...would you look at that those sets are utterly useless now, awesome!
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    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom and @ZOS_GinaBruno how about a developer response?
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    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.

    DK IS NOT JUST A TANK CLASS. #PLAYTHEWAYYOUWANT
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    Navitas wrote: »
    Don't worry Magicka DK will have the Sun set and Syrabane returning to help them...oh wait what's this...would you look at that those sets are utterly useless now, awesome!

    Syrabane still looks like it'll be good if they add weapons/shield/necklace like they've been doing with other sets when upgraded to CP160. Depending on the flat value, I don't think the sun set will be that useful.
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    There don't seem to be really any class balancing, so I'm holding out that they are still working on them.
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    ebethke_ESO wrote: »
    There don't seem to be really any class balancing, so I'm holding out that they are still working on them.

    PTS patch notes rarely change very much. It seems "balancing" is set in stone and the purpose of the PTS is just to to check for bugs.
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    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.

    DK IS NOT JUST A TANK CLASS. #PLAYTHEWAYYOUWANT
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    Kilandros wrote: »
    ebethke_ESO wrote: »
    There don't seem to be really any class balancing, so I'm holding out that they are still working on them.

    PTS patch notes rarely change very much. It seems "balancing" is set in stone and the purpose of the PTS is just to to check for bugs.

    Bugs that still make it to live :'(
    Edited by vortexman11 on June 27, 2016 6:36PM
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  • Kilandros
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    vortexman11 wrote: »
    Kilandros wrote: »
    ebethke_ESO wrote: »
    There don't seem to be really any class balancing, so I'm holding out that they are still working on them.

    PTS patch notes rarely change very much. It seems "balancing" is set in stone and the purpose of the PTS is just to to check for bugs.

    Bugs that still make it to live :'(

    I was careful not to say "the purpose of the PTS is just to fix bugs" !
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    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.

    DK IS NOT JUST A TANK CLASS. #PLAYTHEWAYYOUWANT
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    This PTS was just for a dungeon pack... not a whole class re-balance they said that
    #MOREORBS
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    This PTS was just for a dungeon pack... not a whole class re-balance they said that

    Where did they say that? Because I clearly remember them saying at DB release that the next DLC would focus on magicka.
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    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.

    DK IS NOT JUST A TANK CLASS. #PLAYTHEWAYYOUWANT
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    Kilandros wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    This PTS was just for a dungeon pack... not a whole class re-balance they said that

    Where did they say that? Because I clearly remember them saying at DB release that the next DLC would focus on magicka.

    This was said.
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    DragonKnight:

    We have given Magic DK's the silks of the sun vr16 sets, but because % based increases are broken, we have reverted to a flat scale increase, which is balance able.
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    Kilandros wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    This PTS was just for a dungeon pack... not a whole class re-balance they said that

    Where did they say that? Because I clearly remember them saying at DB release that the next DLC would focus on magicka.
    I wouldn't call this a massive DLC pack really, didn't you watch last ESOLive? It's just a dungeon pack and a small racial change because of the race change feature.
    #MOREORBS
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Kilandros wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    This PTS was just for a dungeon pack... not a whole class re-balance they said that

    Where did they say that? Because I clearly remember them saying at DB release that the next DLC would focus on magicka.
    I wouldn't call this a massive DLC pack really, didn't you watch last ESOLive? It's just a dungeon pack and a small racial change because of the race change feature.

    I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make. There are 4 DLCs a year, one each quarter, approximately every 3 months. They are sure to vary in size just like every DLC we've had to date. Size notwithstanding, each is considered a DLC. And at the release of the last DLC--DB--we were told that this next DLC would contain major magicka rebalancing.
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    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.

    DK IS NOT JUST A TANK CLASS. #PLAYTHEWAYYOUWANT
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    Bet drastical class skill changes and class change option in next dlc.
    Edited by Cinbri on June 27, 2016 8:04PM
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    Navitas wrote: »
    Don't worry Magicka DK will have the Sun set and Syrabane returning to help them...oh wait what's this...would you look at that those sets are utterly useless now, awesome!

    We don't know that they're useless only that they don't provide the same value as they did before. I believe they will still benefit. At least until I find out for sure on the PTS tonight.
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    Kilandros wrote: »
    ebethke_ESO wrote: »
    There don't seem to be really any class balancing, so I'm holding out that they are still working on them.

    PTS patch notes rarely change very much. It seems "balancing" is set in stone and the purpose of the PTS is just to to check for bugs.

    lololololol funniest thing I've read all day
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    Kilandros wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    This PTS was just for a dungeon pack... not a whole class re-balance they said that

    Where did they say that? Because I clearly remember them saying at DB release that the next DLC would focus on magicka.

    Where? Can you quote it or point to it? Because I'm pretty close to absolutely positive this was never said. Why would you want it to anyways? The perpetual list between Magicka being the best then 3 months later stamina is the best is tiring. They're both in a very good place right now.

    Dragons blood needs work, but aside from that they are still tops for PVE DPS.
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    SwaminoNowlino wrote: »
    Kilandros wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    This PTS was just for a dungeon pack... not a whole class re-balance they said that

    Where did they say that? Because I clearly remember them saying at DB release that the next DLC would focus on magicka.

    Where? Can you quote it or point to it? Because I'm pretty close to absolutely positive this was never said. Why would you want it to anyways? The perpetual list between Magicka being the best then 3 months later stamina is the best is tiring. They're both in a very good place right now.

    Dragons blood needs work, but aside from that they are still tops for PVE DPS.

    Yup both in a good place… if you call struggling to get the same dps as other classes can get without trying a good place. Not to mention the total lack of group utility :unamused:

    For those of you that haven't been paying attention I'm referring to sorcs.
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    I think what he meant is :

    -chains not working
    -dragon blood is a joke
    -stonefist still useless
    -battle roar tooltip still not updated
    -dragon scales not working
    -dragon leap bugging and character gets stuck
    -magma armor letting much more than 3% of your max health in
    Etc.
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    Oh I just checked they forgot another page. The Sorcerer help changes are missing, the Sorc notes ended after the bound armor visible change.
    I'm sure you'll add it next monday :) alright, no problem, mistakes happen.
    Edited by Dracane on June 29, 2016 8:33PM
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    What is it going to take ZOS?
    Edited by Armitas on June 29, 2016 8:47PM
    Retired.
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    I am still looking for the thaumaturge fix on consoles.
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    ebethke_ESO wrote: »
    There don't seem to be really any class balancing, so I'm holding out that they are still working on them.

    Well, yeah, wouldn't want to interrupt them being as the last time they did something like that was February 2015.
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    Liofa wrote: »
    I think what he meant is :

    -chains not working
    -dragon blood is a joke
    -stonefist still useless
    -battle roar tooltip still not updated
    -dragon scales not working
    -dragon leap bugging and character gets stuck
    -magma armor letting much more than 3% of your max health in
    Etc.

    Best post on forum and right on point.
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    Liofa wrote: »
    I think what he meant is :

    -chains not working
    -dragon blood is a joke
    -stonefist still useless
    -battle roar tooltip still not updated
    -dragon scales not working
    -dragon leap bugging and character gets stuck
    -magma armor letting much more than 3% of your max health in
    Etc.

    But still an amazing class, with some of the best racial passives and suitability, self heals and damage output. GG
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  • Evil_Rurouni
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    Justice31st wrote: »
    I am still looking for the thaumaturge fix on consoles.

    This.

    For a known bug to be fixed on PC but left unfixed on console during one patch cycle is bad enough, to leave it unfixed over two cycles would be taking the ****.
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