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Surge crit heals and pets

phaneub17_ESO
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Can you change Surge and its morphs to heal the sorc pets for the same amount when you get healed by it?
  • dsalter
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    Can you change Surge and its morphs to heal the sorc pets for the same amount when you get healed by it?

    GENIUS! why has nobody else mentioned this in the sorc thread?

    also increase the base heal amount to 5k.
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  • Dracane
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    A good start would be, to make it so that pets can proc surge :)
    They are our abilities and yet they have nothing to do with us. They are not affected by our CP and proc nothing for us.
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  • Birdovic
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    also increase the base heal amount to 5k.

    I'd go for 3.5k and leave it unaffected from Battle Spirit, like we had with PTS Patch 2.4.2
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  • Dracane
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    also increase the base heal amount to 5k.

    I'd go for 3.5k and leave it unaffected from Battle Spirit, like we had with PTS Patch 2.4.2

    Something that could help a liddle, is that Blood Magic heals should be able to critical heal.
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  • dsalter
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    also increase the base heal amount to 5k.

    I'd go for 3.5k and leave it unaffected from Battle Spirit, like we had with PTS Patch 2.4.2

    make it 4k and we have a deal :p
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  • phaneub17_ESO
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    One step at a time, guys. If we can get this to affect pets at least they can survive a little longer.
  • hrothbern
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    are we in this thread talking about pets in PVP ?
    or in general ?
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  • Jar_Ek
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    This would also help stamina builds to use pets and non conjured ward builds in general.

    BTW what is the heal difference between critical and power surge now? Is it less than 500hps now? If so, plz buff critical surge in some way to make the choice relevant.
  • Dracane
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    Jar_Ek wrote: »
    This would also help stamina builds to use pets and non conjured ward builds in general.

    BTW what is the heal difference between critical and power surge now? Is it less than 500hps now? If so, plz buff critical surge in some way to make the choice relevant.

    If something, then power surge is in need of a buff :D not critical surge. Look at the pitiful heal of power surge.
    Not saying that both couldn't use a buff.
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  • Birdovic
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    @Dracane

    Making Blood Magic crit sounds like a great idea!


    For Blood Magic I also posted a Suggestion some time ago, which could maybe help, too.
    How to improve Blood Magic:

    Old Tooltip: Restore 8% max Health when a dark magic ability is used against an enemy
    New Tooltip: Restore 12% max Health when a dark magic ability is used.

    - Even if it still doesnt proc multiple times, it atleast works on every single ability from Dark Magic and overall proc more often
    - Dark Exchange procs it now aswell and the heal + Blood Magic proc at same time is like a buff to Dark Exchange itslf (which is needed)
    - Defensive Rune now also grants the heal, even if the attacking Enemy is cc immune
    - (Obviously) more Healing
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  • Dracane
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    @Dracane

    Making Blood Magic crit sounds like a great idea!


    For Blood Magic I also posted a Suggestion some time ago, which could maybe help, too.
    How to improve Blood Magic:

    Old Tooltip: Restore 8% max Health when a dark magic ability is used against an enemy
    New Tooltip: Restore 12% max Health when a dark magic ability is used.

    - Even if it still doesnt proc multiple times, it atleast works on every single ability from Dark Magic and overall proc more often
    - Dark Exchange procs it now aswell and the heal + Blood Magic proc at same time is like a buff to Dark Exchange itslf (which is needed)
    - Defensive Rune now also grants the heal, even if the attacking Enemy is cc immune
    - (Obviously) more Healing

    This is a very nice idea. Proc on activation is always better than proc on hit, since things like crystal shard will most likely be dodged or reflected anyway.
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  • Jar_Ek
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    @Dracane Actually it was a question as I can't recall what the hps differences are between the two morphs, but my recollection was that it was so low that even stamina builds might go with Power Surge to buff some ultimates (ranged ones tbh).
  • Dracane
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    Jar_Ek wrote: »
    @Dracane Actually it was a question as I can't recall what the hps differences are between the two morphs, but my recollection was that it was so low that even stamina builds might go with Power Surge to buff some ultimates (ranged ones tbh).

    No, the opposite. Magicka builds go for crit surge because it heals for much more.
    Power Surge is not desireable. There is no reason to take it over entropy atm.
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  • Jar_Ek
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    @Dracane didn't Power Surge get a healing buff just as db went live and critical surge get nothing making Power Surge only about 500hps behind critical surge?
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    hrothbern wrote: »
    are we in this thread talking about pets in PVP ?
    or in general ?

    This is for all sorcs who want to use the pets, but can't keep them alive in meaningful ways. I use mine to farm Dolmens and if they face off a Daedroth then they die a couple times, the Twilight dies when they get swarmed by 2 mobs. If they can heal the same time I do, then their survival rate goes up based on how aggressively active I am.
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