Any attempts yet at new (Vet)dungeons?

Minute_Waltz · June 2016

Stuck at work for 4 more hours

can't wait to get on the PTS... Anyone tried them yet on PTS? Please report back on any progression etc

Inig0 · June 2016

finished shadows (vet). it was ok.

Ep1kMalware · June 2016

Inig0 wrote: »

finished shadows (vet). it was ok.

any heads up? console player here.

XaXa · June 2016

PLEASE tell me they are difficult. I'm hoping for something like ICP / WGT when they first dropped difficult

pretzl · June 2016

XaXa wrote: »

PLEASE tell me they are difficult. I'm hoping for something like ICP / WGT when they first dropped difficult

Never gonna happen.
ZOS' mentality nowadays is "dungeons are for casuals, trials are for hardcores".
I kinda like it that way too. If you want challenging 4man content, go do vDSA.

XaXa · June 2016

pretzl wrote: »

XaXa wrote: »

PLEASE tell me they are difficult. I'm hoping for something like ICP / WGT when they first dropped difficult

Never gonna happen.
ZOS' mentality nowadays is "dungeons are for casuals, trials are for hardcores".
I kinda like it that way too. If you want challenging 4man content, go do vDSA.

Fair enough. At least they are all getting scaled up.

I'm not into super insanely hardcore stuff (At least I'm starting to be sick of "Hardcore" on my vMA grind).

I Just wouldn't mind SOMETHING that my group wasn't facerolling through.

Eitherway. New dungeons. Yay.

Foxic · June 2016

Finished them both. They weren't that hard. Though I would say mazzatun is harder than vwgt and vicp

XaXa · June 2016

Damn double post

Minute_Waltz · June 2016

TotallyNotVos wrote: »

Finished them both. They weren't that hard. Though I would say mazzatun is harder than vwgt and vicp

Good to hear, zos mentioned in eso live they are gonna be around or abit harder than wgt/icp, glad they delivered

Kihamai · June 2016

My boyfriend and I finished normal Ruins of Mazzatun, then went to try out normal Cradle of Shadows. We couldn't progress any further after killing Dranos Velador since there was a switch/lever that we had to press and we were stuck in combat because his essence orbs were still up. We couldn't /stuck either, since we were stuck in combat... So we had to run out of the dungeon manually, haha.

Normal Ruins of Mazzatun is pretty difficult even if you do know the mechanics to it. Normal Cradle of Shadows was a lot easier (what we did finish of it), although the darkness mechanic in the spider caves where you can light braziers is annoying since the snare can't be removed with shuffle. Getting the achievement "Fear No Darkness" is going to be pretty annoying to get.

Ep1kMalware · June 2016

Calysis wrote: »

My boyfriend and I finished normal Ruins of Mazzatun, then went to try out normal Cradle of Shadows. We couldn't progress any further after killing Dranos Velador since there was a switch/lever that we had to press and we were stuck in combat because his essence orbs were still up. We couldn't /stuck either, since we were stuck in combat... So we had to run out of the dungeon manually, haha.

Normal Ruins of Mazzatun is pretty difficult even if you do know the mechanics to it. Normal Cradle of Shadows was a lot easier (what we did finish of it), although the darkness mechanic in the spider caves where you can light braziers is annoying since the snare can't be removed with shuffle. Getting the achievement "Fear No Darkness" is going to be pretty annoying to get.

Our group was doing some vwgt farms one day, amd completely glitched out the dragonguard fight so we were stuck in sa,e situation. teleporting to cyrodiil did the tridk.

cheers

Minute_Waltz · June 2016

Ok reporting back.. couldnt get a good team going so we end up duoing normal Cradle of shadow and completed it. Some very interesting mechanics and 4th & 5th boss can't be burned straight away like the first 3. (Encountered the same bug as @Calysis where one of us need to run out of dungeon to get out of combat for lever pull) Also note due to one of the bosses mechanics this dungeon cannot be soloed.

Interestingly final boss/chest drops the jewellery for the new sets, so I assume the drop patterns are similar to our current SO/Maw trials.

If anyone who is experienced Pve'er (PC NA) from aussie timezone and can get online 1-5am EDT (6-10pm AEST) and interested in running these dungeons in vet then please let me know

Mush55 · June 2016

pretzl wrote: »

XaXa wrote: »

PLEASE tell me they are difficult. I'm hoping for something like ICP / WGT when they first dropped difficult

Never gonna happen.
ZOS' mentality nowadays is "dungeons are for casuals, trials are for hardcores".
I kinda like it that way too. If you want challenging 4man content, go do vDSA.

Over and over and over and over , good way to keep players interested.

We need some hard 4 man dungeons that take a while to complete not be hard for the first run then face roll.

Or give the opportunity to run them with 6 man group and ramp up the difficulty every ones a winner then.

Paulington · June 2016

We finished Ruins of Mazzatun Veteran last night.

Very fun, unique mechanics, but not hard to complete by any stretch and this is using 300 CP characters with mostly bad gear, on live it won't be difficult at all.

However, ZOS said they wanted these dungeons to be "about the same difficulty as current vICP/vWGT" and I'd say they hit the nail on the head, that's exactly what it feels like.

Ep1kMalware · June 2016

Minute_Waltz wrote: »

Ok reporting back.. couldnt get a good team going so we end up duoing normal Cradle of shadow and completed it. Some very interesting mechanics and 4th & 5th boss can't be burned straight away like the first 3. (Encountered the same bug as @Calysis where one of us need to run out of dungeon to get out of combat for lever pull) Also note due to one of the bosses mechanics this dungeon cannot be soloed.

Interestingly final boss/chest drops the jewellery for the new sets, so I assume the drop patterns are similar to our current SO/Maw trials.

If anyone who is experienced Pve'er (PC NA) from aussie timezone and can get online 1-5am EDT (6-10pm AEST) and interested in running these dungeons in vet then please let me know

That's sooo exciting! I am definitelg grinding that jewelry. hell yeah zos, hell yeah.

Shadesofkin · June 2016

Finished Vet Ruins 20 minutes ago.

Ep1kMalware · June 2016

Shadesofkin wrote: »

Finished Vet Ruins 20 minutes ago.

what's the loot table like? guaranteed loot drops like in ic dungeons?

Destruent · June 2016

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Shadesofkin wrote: »

Finished Vet Ruins 20 minutes ago.

what's the loot table like? guaranteed loot drops like in ic dungeons?

Yes, you get setpieces from all bosses, jewelry from last boss. Does anyone know, if you get gold jewelry from hardmode? We did only nonHM.

But i agree....those dungeons are easy on PTS with templates and will be even easier when they go live. That's really disappointing imo

clocksstoppe · June 2016

I'd do it if people didn't just *** around with the new personalities and cosmetics. What a waste of hard drive space it was to install PTS.

Foxic · June 2016

clocksstoppe wrote: »

I'd do it if people didn't just *** around with the new personalities and cosmetics. What a waste of hard drive space it was to install PTS.

Someone sounds salty

Shadesofkin · June 2016

Destruent wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Shadesofkin wrote: »

Finished Vet Ruins 20 minutes ago.

what's the loot table like? guaranteed loot drops like in ic dungeons?

Yes, you get setpieces from all bosses, jewelry from last boss. Does anyone know, if you get gold jewelry from hardmode? We did only nonHM.

But i agree....those dungeons are easy on PTS with templates and will be even easier when they go live. That's really disappointing imo

They're easy for the players who think ahead, plan and have skills they can swap to and the foresight to realize they should swap to those skills.

For the average player (who is not part of the forums on a regular basis) these are not easy.

ZOS_Finn · June 2016

Calysis wrote: »

My boyfriend and I finished normal Ruins of Mazzatun, then went to try out normal Cradle of Shadows. We couldn't progress any further after killing Dranos Velador since there was a switch/lever that we had to press and we were stuck in combat because his essence orbs were still up. We couldn't /stuck either, since we were stuck in combat... So we had to run out of the dungeon manually, haha.

We were able to track this down and should have a fix in an upcoming PTS. Its related to Dranos dying with his Essence Orbs still up.

Destruent · June 2016

Shadesofkin wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Shadesofkin wrote: »

Finished Vet Ruins 20 minutes ago.

what's the loot table like? guaranteed loot drops like in ic dungeons?

Yes, you get setpieces from all bosses, jewelry from last boss. Does anyone know, if you get gold jewelry from hardmode? We did only nonHM.

But i agree....those dungeons are easy on PTS with templates and will be even easier when they go live. That's really disappointing imo

They're easy for the players who think ahead, plan and have skills they can swap to and the foresight to realize they should swap to those skills.

For the average player (who is not part of the forums on a regular basis) these are not easy.

We didn't need to swap any skills in a group of 3 with template characters. As soon as we figured out the mechanics it wasn't that hard at all. In a group of 4 it was really easy

What's the problem with dungeons, where you need to think about skills and such? atleast for the first weeks it would be nice if those dungeons would provide a challenge

Shadesofkin · June 2016

Destruent wrote: »

Shadesofkin wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Shadesofkin wrote: »

Finished Vet Ruins 20 minutes ago.

what's the loot table like? guaranteed loot drops like in ic dungeons?

Yes, you get setpieces from all bosses, jewelry from last boss. Does anyone know, if you get gold jewelry from hardmode? We did only nonHM.

But i agree....those dungeons are easy on PTS with templates and will be even easier when they go live. That's really disappointing imo

They're easy for the players who think ahead, plan and have skills they can swap to and the foresight to realize they should swap to those skills.

For the average player (who is not part of the forums on a regular basis) these are not easy.

We didn't need to swap any skills in a group of 3 with template characters. As soon as we figured out the mechanics it wasn't that hard at all. In a group of 4 it was really easy
What's the problem with dungeons, where you need to think about skills and such? atleast for the first weeks it would be nice if those dungeons would provide a challenge

I didn't say there was a problem, I'm only mentioning that these will in may ways become the new ICP And WGT as far as completion goes.

Ep1kMalware · June 2016

TotallyNotVos wrote: »

clocksstoppe wrote: »

I'd do it if people didn't just *** around with the new personalities and cosmetics. What a waste of hard drive space it was to install PTS.

Someone sounds salty

nah, not all of us have great internet. db took me 12hrs to download when it shouldve taken 3 for anything else that size. Downloading updates isn't alwayd fun

Ep1kMalware · June 2016

I kinda don't mind where zos is going, making trials more hardcore amd dungeons more middlecore. I think they took a decent approach to making them longer. esp on console lemme tell you, most players genuinely suck amd flat don't care. We can easilly run city of ash with our core group in like 8-10 minutes, where most group finder groups take 2-3hrs and you have to solo all the bosses because the tank/healer/dps die to their own shadows.

it works, even if it's still easy making it longer extends the comtent for those that can simplu blow up the bosses/adds.

idk, seems fair tbh. at least they're aknowledging us.

acw37162 · June 2016

clocksstoppe wrote: »

I'd do it if people didn't just *** around with the new personalities and cosmetics. What a waste of hard drive space it was to install PTS.

You mean actually try out and test all the new things to see if there are bugs or issues before it goes to live, you know test all the stuff on the test server.