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With new Racial Passives to Argonian, are you creating a healer or changing your existing Templar?
Robbmrp
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I really like the changes that they made for Agonians. I had a Sorc that I never played but these make me want to create a new ArgonianTemplar and make a straight healer of them. The healing done by 9% combined with The Ritual Mundus(all 7 divines) and new CP160 Healers Habit is going to be really hard to beat on any other class. And with only having to get to level 50 now, there's going to be a ton of these running around.
Argonian Skills
Amphibious: This passive ability has been renamed to “Resourceful.” Also, it no longer increases your swimming speed by 50%. It now increases your Max Magicka by 1/2/3%, and continues to restore 4/8/12% of your Max Health, Magicka, and Stamina whenever you drink a potion.
Quick to Mend: This passive ability now increases your healing done by 3/6/9%, instead of increasing your healing received by 3/6/9%.
Restoration Expertise: This passive ability has been renamed to “Amphibian.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now increases your swimming speed by 50%.
Edited by Robbmrp on June 28, 2016 3:59PM Argonian Skills
Amphibious: This passive ability has been renamed to “Resourceful.” Also, it no longer increases your swimming speed by 50%. It now increases your Max Magicka by 1/2/3%, and continues to restore 4/8/12% of your Max Health, Magicka, and Stamina whenever you drink a potion.
Quick to Mend: This passive ability now increases your healing done by 3/6/9%, instead of increasing your healing received by 3/6/9%.
Restoration Expertise: This passive ability has been renamed to “Amphibian.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now increases your swimming speed by 50%.
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wayfarerx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Have mained an Argonian Templar healer since launch. Had no plans to change his race before, certainly not going to now.
Welcome to all our new Saxhleel Aedric warriors, may the Hist embrace you!@wayfarerx - PC / North America / Aldmeri Dominion3 -
Robbmrp✭✭✭✭✭
✭@wayfarerx no more getting left out of groups, if that ever happened to you. Now you'll be in demand!NA Server - Kildair0 -
wayfarerx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭@wayfarerx no more getting left out of groups, if that ever happened to you. Now you'll be in demand!
It's never really been a problem, there's no content in this game that you can't take on because you're missing a racial passive. Heals-with-Song was a bada** healer before update 11 and he'll be a bada** one after. Honestly the I'm more exited about the max magicka passive than the boost to healing done, I spend more than half my time DPSing with a halfway decent group as it is.@wayfarerx - PC / North America / Aldmeri Dominion1 -
Robbmrp✭✭✭✭✭
✭@wayfarerx that's cool, I recall seeing other posts about people mentioning not getting in groups because of it so you never know. I would hope that people wouldn't judge based on a specific ESO Race but since that's a daily occurrence IRL it's going to happen to some for sure. Hopefully things just don't go the opposite way now and every other race is excluded for healing....NA Server - Kildair0 -
nine9six✭✭✭✭✭
✭I would delete my Toons before I made them into an Argonian.
Yuck!
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mb10✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Going to be sad that there will be a huge influx of fake Argonians now!
Us real Argonian (and Argonian healers) were here for the lore before the passive change!
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me_ming✭✭✭✭✭I don't think I will be changing my Healer. She's a Breton-Templar. I like it though that they have made the changes to Argonian passives (about damn time). At least, now there is more I can do with my Argonian than just regulating her as my chef. lol.
Playing as a healer though, I have realized that no matter how strong you can heal (especially in PvE), there will be one-shot mechanics and unless you know how the mechanics work and avoid the damage, there is no amount of healing that can save you or your group members."We're heroes, my boon companion, and heroes always win! Let that be a lesson to you."
-Caldwell, "The Final Assault"
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Miszou✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm going to keep going with my Argonian squad. None of them are healers, and all of them make use of the healing received passive.
This change will hurt every single one of them, but I won't change race. If it sucks balls too hard after this, then maybe I'll take a break and get my real life back for a while. Maybe I won't even really notice the change. Who knows...
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Robbmrp✭✭✭✭✭
✭@me_ming if I had my Orc Templar just as a healer I wouldn't change them either. I have him specc'd for PVP now and currently turn down a ton of group requests because of that. With CP and the costs related, it's too expensive to switch back and forth between PVP and PVE. This way I could create a new character and make them straight healing/backup dps without having to adjust any stats on my Orc.NA Server - Kildair1 -
xblackroxe✭✭✭✭✭Everybody that changes his/her pve healer to argonian because he/she thinks thats the new best race has no idea. No need for even more overhealing when you can have 7% more magicka to better support DD´s with Drain/Siphon/Repentance.Member of HODOR
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me_ming✭✭✭✭✭@Robbmrp personally, I really had no plans on changing races. What I did was play every race. I thought it would be less expensive if I just buy 2 more character slots than changing my already existing characters. It is quite a pain having to respec from PvP to PvE. That's why I am glad that some of my alts are in AZ, that way I don't have to respec their CP. lol."We're heroes, my boon companion, and heroes always win! Let that be a lesson to you."
-Caldwell, "The Final Assault"
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✭✭I think there a specific point where more healing isn't worth it, after that you need more damage and sustain.
So I still think argonians lack a lot of max magika and regen/reduced cost for them to be better than bretons or altmers as healers even with the 9% increased healing.1 -
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✭@xblackroxe it's all a trade off for sure. Also with more healing per cast you save magicka as you don't have to cast as many. Hopefully this will help leave more for backup DPS. I've always wanted to create an Argonian but hadn't because of the botched passives. Now I may at least give them a try.NA Server - Kildair0 -
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✭✭✭I heal with my Magblade, although my Trial Group usually have me DPS with him for the off heals more than anything else.
So now, with the 3% extra magic as well as the 9% extra healing done, I do my job as off healer even better cause now my Funnel Health/Refreshing Path/Sap Essence will now not only hit harder but also heal for a whole lot more meaning that I'm going to be even more useful than I was before.
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ReaX✭✭✭do you really need that much healing? either your group is very bad or you heal trials solo?1
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Averya_Teira✭✭✭✭✭Honestly, 9% increased healing isn't worth it when my BoL already heals a player to 100% ...Edited by Averya_Teira on June 28, 2016 4:46PM0 -
wayfarerx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Edited by wayfarerx on June 28, 2016 4:46PM@wayfarerx - PC / North America / Aldmeri Dominion3 -
xblackroxe✭✭✭✭✭@xblackroxe it's all a trade off for sure. Also with more healing per cast you save magicka as you don't have to cast as many. Hopefully this will help leave more for backup DPS. I've always wanted to create an Argonian but hadn't because of the botched passives. Now I may at least give them a try.
The thing is though its not a tradeoff. You already heal people for 16-18k crits of bol. Argonian will be the best healer for pvp hands down but for pve Altmer/Breton will still be top.Member of HODOR
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SolarCat02✭✭✭✭✭So, I have a magicka Khajiit Kightblade I wanted to turn into a saptank, and plans for an Argonian Dragonknight tank.
Now I will have a stamina Khajiit Nightblade dps and an Argonian Nightblade saptank. On the plus side, the names I was considering will still work for my future Argonian.
Still leveling the khajiit as magicka until she unlocks Vigor, though.
Also still waiting on the Argonian until I feel it's the right time to get the Any Race Any Alliance upgrade.
I did make a Bosmer Sorcerer last night. That fall damage reduction will be very useful paired with Streak.
Why be normal when you can be better?
Elissandra Ravenwing, Magicka Dragonknight Healer
Lady Kalila, Stamina Templar DPS
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✭✭✭My healer is an Argonian Sorcerer actually. Twilight Matriarch and Absorption Field yo Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 28, 2016 4:54PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Silver_Strider✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭do you really need that much healing? either your group is very bad or you heal trials solo?
@ReaX
Sadly, my group has issues getting our healers online at the same time due to different schedules and time zones, so I just usually step in as an off healer and we just 1 Templar heal the trials, which isn't all that difficult since most trials are easy enough now to just stack and heal thru for the most part, vMoL being the lone exception.Argonian forever0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It's a buff, but I still wouldnt call them the obvious choice for healers. At least they did something I suppose.1 -
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✭The thing is, even without the healing buff, any race can easily overheal in this game. That 9% might come in handy in PVP, but it's not even necessary if you are running Transmutation. In PVE, that 9% is just overkill. I will admit that it's a good passive, but it's not needed for any of the content in this game, even VMOL and Vet Sanctum.Edited by s7732425ub17_ESO on June 28, 2016 5:10PM1 -
The_Lex✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don't think I will be changing my Healer. She's a Breton-Templar. I like it though that they have made the changes to Argonian passives (about damn time). At least, now there is more I can do with my Argonian than just regulating her as my chef. lol.
Playing as a healer though, I have realized that no matter how strong you can heal (especially in PvE), there will be one-shot mechanics and unless you know how the mechanics work and avoid the damage, there is no amount of healing that can save you or your group members.
^^ This. I have no plans to change my Breton Templar healer.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I already had an Argonian Templar tank. He may change roles."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle0 -
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✭✭✭I would delete my Toons before I made them into an Argonian.
Yuck!
I played argonian in Skyrim and it was super fun!!! and diving without taking care about air, that was great, I was exploring the underwater life of lakes and rivers, it was awesome. too bad I stopped playing Skyrim (because of too many mods, total freezing, unplayable) before the underwater argonian house mod came out, it was awesome!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQdr6h1k2Ic
please ZOS, would you buy that mod from the developer and incorporate it into the update of the new argonian dlc??
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_TristanK @WrobelEdited by altemriel on June 28, 2016 7:21PM2
