Averya_Teira wrote: »

nordsavage wrote: »

I buy all the DLC, I buy a good amount of costumes and pets, I play pretty much everyday, I subbed non-stop when it was mandatory. Subbing now has no benefits to a guy like me. I feel that jamming more and more stuff like dyeing costumes is pretty crappy especially when I have been a loyal player when stuff like that should be in the base package. If everything is going to end up having a fee with no regard to loyalty then I might move on from this game and only come back to sub one month a year just to blow through the stories. All of the lore with none of the cheap money grubbing tactics.

If you buy lots of Crown packs, what's the problem with buying a little less of them and subbing instead ? Just buy one less crown pack every 3-4 months or so... I mean, you do get crowns for sub.

Kalifas wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

As of last year before they launched on Console. The understanding has been that nothing beyond base game additions and bug fixes would be promised for the base game. That if you wanted certain things that would be attached to the DLCs directly or the Subscription. Youd have to either outright buy the DLC or subscribe.

Most opted NOT to sub because they felt there was no value. Now that the subs are being given more value. Suddenly its an issue. The funniest thing to me is those who proclaim to spend money on the game every month. Even more than subs and yet havent gotten in their heads yet that if they took just a portion of what they spent every month and put it into the sub. Theyd still get the Crowns as well as the benefits of the sub. So at this point Im convinced the vast majority of those outraged over Crafting Bags and now this Costume Dye set up is just outrage for the sake of being outraged.

This forum is filled to the brim of people being upset with things for the sake of being upset. They have no real reason or concern. But drama and such gives a more desirable immediate reward chemically than being happy with something.

The understanding of Tamriel Unlimited is that you wouldn't need a subscription to play any of the game. That is the whole point of the game going buy to play. It means players could buy dlc and avoid the reality that comes with most subscription only games.It's the same kind of story that people who want to cut the cord on cable. It's not that people expect stuff free but they don't like the concept of monthly fees. And many people have cut the cable by switching to internet services like hulu, roku, netflix,etc. Yes those services still have monthly fees but are typically cheaper than standard cable.

People subbed before the crafting bags and the costume dye set. I see countless posts here that says they have been subbed since launch. My issue is not with ZoS offering minor perks to subscribers, they should offer even more minor perks than they have been. My issue is these the bags and dye system are in no way minor. One makes the alternate way to access it very cumbersome with it's impermanence and the other is not even available in the base game.

As a non subscriber they can no longer craft as comfortably as a subscriber or dye as often as a subscriber without venturing into the crown store everytime they want to change something. I would at least like to see an addition of 200 crafting spaces for sale and a dye dlc that somehow offers a permanent dye access. Having to visit the crown store anytime I want to customize something makes the game feel like a free to play micro-transaction store.

It is no longer Tamriel Unlimited but Tamriel Limited.But it seems since the announcement there is no going back and rather than constantly state how wrong it is. I opted to ask for more affordable and scaled subscription packages.

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Thirdly, the way ZOS dealt with the whole cheating and exploiting issues, from the crafting surveys to the CE debacle, was an exercise in how not to handle this sort of issues in an online game. No real hard punishments, overturned bans for proven cheaters and non-existing communication with concerned players.

What did you expect ZOS to come out and scream all over the net : "Hey we did X to stop cheating and hacking !" ? Like seriously did you think they were going to talk to everyone about it ? Like just so that the cheaters know when they can't cheat anymore so as to not get caught ? Like so that they could figure out a way to bypass X to hack the game ? Like seriously did you think they would communicate with all the people on the forums who bash and insult them constantly about their incompetence ? People have been screaming and making a million different threads instead of sending in-game reports, which is what ZOS has asked everyone to do. No, no one listened they just kept making threads and menacing to spread the word to all the gaming critics, which could result in a serious drop of reputation for the game and a turnaway for newcomers. I agree that ZOS don't treat customers the best way possible (lack of communication, etc.), but we treat them like rubbish too.

It is also their job to ensure that there will be no cheating in the game. They can't tell everyone what they do and how they do it. And it is a right for people to stay anonymous even when they infringed a law or in this case a game condition of use. They are still humans, and humans have rights. Thats why Zeni asked people to stop naming and shaming, but guess what, no one listened. Those guys had proof against hackers, but don't forget the people who named those cheating f*ckers also infringed the conditions of game use by openly not respecting their right of staying anonymous, which is a shame. At court for example, you can't provide evidence by illegal means, otherwise the evidence will be dismissed. So in this case, people were naming and shaming which is against the game "laws", so its a form of illegal evidence so it had to be dismissed. Don't get me wrong, I agree that it is stupid, I hate it, but thats the way it works in the game and in life.

To wrap this up, none of us here on the forums have any sort of information on the punishments that the cheaters received and I strongly believe that they did get punished, its just none of our business. We don't have to know what happened to those guys. Don't directly assume that nothing happened just because you don't know what happened.

Bottom line : do not spit at the devs when you know nothing of the issue. They worked their asses off to provide you with a game that you all enjoy. Anyway, help Zenimax fix problems, don't make it harder for them.