Universal Guild Store a.k.a. Auction House

kylewwefan · June 2016

When is this going to become a thing. It sucks so bad looking all over the place to find something or not find what you're looking for. Or then pay too much because no one knows how much something should cost......and my poor guild leader staying up til 6:00am to bid, then not bidding enough....even upwards 4 mil, or then the surprise early Monday maintenance schedule for the PC players.

idk · June 2016

Never

It will never become a thing. Most like it. A small minority do not.

Khaos_Bane · June 2016

Probably never.

AlnilamE · June 2016

Hopefully never.

imnotanother · June 2016

Please use the search function. This topic has been posted an infinite amount of times since launch.

Beardimus · June 2016

I def prefer not to have it. Right now it's like the early days of eBay, deals to be had if you put the effort in. Effort / reward. One big shop will remove that. It also makes no sense lore wise really. Well unless you mean a real live auction house with people bidding haha

leshpar · June 2016

I kinda like the lack of a central AH. It is more immersive.

emily3989 · June 2016

Never OP. Never, never, never. Unless we all want price-locks on everything throughout Tamriel.

amgame308_ESO · June 2016

Never, yet another feature like BG's that are available in other MMO's. This economy is one of the most well thought out under appreciated features in the game. Just like RvRvR and wanting to go back to instanced battlegrounds? I don't get why people want the same old thing that has been around for decades. There are way too many benefits to the AH system as is. Prices was be insanely higher with a global AH.

kylewwefan · June 2016

I know there's tons of these posts. But I hadn't seen one today

Gidorick · June 2016

YAY! It's been so long!

Link to the original post with details!: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/159594/eso-needs-an-auction-horse-expanded-concept

idk · June 2016

kylewwefan wrote: »

I know there's tons of these posts. But I hadn't seen one today

You've seen the "tons" of these threads and the negative sentiment towards this idea yet felt another daily thread would change the minds of the masses?

Danksta · June 2016

I'm against an AH, though it would be nice if we had a search function in the guild traders. It can get tedious to say the least when searching for that last motif you need to complete a specific style.

Danksta · June 2016

kylewwefan wrote: »

I know there's tons of these posts. But I hadn't seen one today

I think I might start a new one tomorrow.

KhajiitiLizard · June 2016

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

kylewwefan wrote: »

I know there's tons of these posts. But I hadn't seen one today

You've seen the "tons" of these threads and the negative sentiment towards this idea yet felt another daily thread would change the minds of the masses?

A few people on the forums hardly counts as the 'masses'. The only people against an auction house are the people in big trade guilds. They do no want to lose all that gold. A global trading post would take the money out of the hands of these huge trading 'guilds' and into the average player... of course they don't want that. They can't corner the market anymore.

imnotanother · June 2016

Gidorick wrote: »

YAY! It's been so long!

Link to the original post with details!: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/159594/eso-needs-an-auction-horse-expanded-concept

@Gidorick
I was waiting for the auction horse.
It is time to implement it already hah

newtinmpls · June 2016

Beardimus wrote: »

I def prefer not to have it. Right now it's like the early days of eBay, deals to be had if you put the effort in. Effort / reward. One big shop will remove that. It also makes no sense lore wise really. Well unless you mean a real live auction house with people bidding haha

Well said!

An auction house would be really really good for conglomerate, mass stuff. For individuals, it would suck.

newtinmpls · June 2016

KhajiitiLizard wrote: »

A few people on the forums hardly counts as the 'masses'. The only people against an auction house are the people in big trade guilds. They do no want to lose all that gold. A global trading post would take the money out of the hands of these huge trading 'guilds' and into the average player... of course they don't want that. They can't corner the market anymore.

Are you on skooma? I mean if you really think that would happen...you are in mirror land.

Big guilds would rotate peeps, buying up any "under priced" (read: reasonably priced) stuff, and then repost it for as much as they can.

Individuals would be forced to compete with such moster guilds .... and they would lose. The average farmer (read: rich player) would be able to buy anything, as long as they pay through the nose for it.

The non-compulsive player would basically not be able to afford much.

[edited for appropriate jargon]
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Danksta · June 2016

KhajiitiLizard wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

kylewwefan wrote: »

I know there's tons of these posts. But I hadn't seen one today

You've seen the "tons" of these threads and the negative sentiment towards this idea yet felt another daily thread would change the minds of the masses?

A few people on the forums hardly counts as the 'masses'. The only people against an auction house are the people in big trade guilds. They do no want to lose all that gold. A global treading post would take the money out of the hands of these huge trading 'guilds' and into the average player... of course they don't want that. They can't corner the market anymore.

The big trade guilds are the ones with more reasonable prices, because they're competing with all the other trade guilds who've won their bid in a prime spot. I dropped my trade guild because no matter how low you'd sell something for you'd always get undercut.

I'd say the only people against it are people so antisocial they can't even take two minutes to communicate with some one to join a trade guild.

imnotanother · June 2016

newtinmpls wrote: »

KhajiitiLizard wrote: »

A few people on the forums hardly counts as the 'masses'. The only people against an auction house are the people in big trade guilds. They do no want to lose all that gold. A global trading post would take the money out of the hands of these huge trading 'guilds' and into the average player... of course they don't want that. They can't corner the market anymore.

Are you on skooma? I mean if you really think that would happen...you are in mirror land.

Big guilds would rotate peeps, buying up any "under priced" (read: reasonably priced) stuff, and then repost it for as much as they can.

Individuals would be forced to compete with such moster guilds .... and they would lose. The average farmer (read: rich player) would be able to buy anything, as long as they pay through the nose for it.

The non-compulsive player would basically not be able to afford much.

[edited for appropriate jargon]
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Don't forget the bots that will buy items the second they are posted and list for a higher price.

emily3989 · June 2016

Never OP. Never, never, never. Unless we all want price-locks on everything throughout Tamriel.

KhajiitiLizard wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

kylewwefan wrote: »

I know there's tons of these posts. But I hadn't seen one today

You've seen the "tons" of these threads and the negative sentiment towards this idea yet felt another daily thread would change the minds of the masses?

A few people on the forums hardly counts as the 'masses'. The only people against an auction house are the people in big trade guilds. They do no want to lose all that gold. A global trading post would take the money out of the hands of these huge trading 'guilds' and into the average player... of course they don't want that. They can't corner the market anymore.

What I did was join a huge trading guild, in fact, two of them. Problem solved. I think there might be a similar solution for others out there...just not thinking of it right now...oh, perhaps join a trading guild? Yep, that's it.

joshisanonymous · June 2016

No. Never.

Nestor · June 2016

There is no need for an Auction House. If you visit any Trading Center that has 4 to 6 Kiosks, and your Bank assuming you have 3 to 5 guilds with a store (with or without a Kiosk) you can find anything you want or need.

Other than Rare items or bargains. By definition, Rare items should take time and effort to acquire, otherwise they would not be rare. And, Bargains, that's your choice to try to find the lowest price possible, and again, you have to shop around for that.

Mortam · June 2016

My friends and family are casual players, and never use the guild traders. They say the search sucks and they never find what they want. They play as if it does not exist, vendoring all loot.

I myself have used it in the past, but rarely.

Graydon · June 2016

Danksta wrote: »

kylewwefan wrote: »

I know there's tons of these posts. But I hadn't seen one today

I think I might start a new one tomorrow.

Dibs on Friday

emily3989 · June 2016

Mortam wrote: »

My friends and family are casual players, and never use the guild traders. They say the search sucks and they never find what they want. They play as if it does not exist, vendoring all loot.

I myself have used it in the past, but rarely.

Never understood this mentality. My guild currently requires 5K in sales per week. If you fall below, you just buy raffle tickets to cover your bad week. Even if I had to pay 5K out of pocket outside of sales I would do it. With my current trade guild I typically sell 20k worth of stuff a week (probably 100 gold if vendored) and I don't play more than an hour a day on average.

It is like this: would you rather run an everyday yard sale and make maybe $100 a week, or open a store, pay $200 rent, and make $1,000 a week?

Gidorick · June 2016

imnotanother wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

YAY! It's been so long!

Link to the original post with details!: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/159594/eso-needs-an-auction-horse-expanded-concept

@Gidorick
I was waiting for the auction horse.
It is time to implement it already hah

Seriously, right?

imnotanother · June 2016

emily3989 wrote: »

Mortam wrote: »

My friends and family are casual players, and never use the guild traders. They say the search sucks and they never find what they want. They play as if it does not exist, vendoring all loot.

I myself have used it in the past, but rarely.

Never understood this mentality. My guild currently requires 5K in sales per week. If you fall below, you just buy raffle tickets to cover your bad week. Even if I had to pay 5K out of pocket outside of sales I would do it. With my current trade guild I typically sell 20k worth of stuff a week (probably 100 gold if vendored) and I don't play more than an hour a day on average.

It is like this: would you rather run an everyday yard sale and make maybe $100 a week, or open a store, pay $200 rent, and make $1,000 a week?

I feel like the problem stems from these players being anti-social or shy/nervous to meet/talk with players.

I have heard many players stat that they don't want to play with others or join a guild. (Why are they playing an MMO?)

emily3989 · June 2016

imnotanother wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

Mortam wrote: »

My friends and family are casual players, and never use the guild traders. They say the search sucks and they never find what they want. They play as if it does not exist, vendoring all loot.

I myself have used it in the past, but rarely.

Never understood this mentality. My guild currently requires 5K in sales per week. If you fall below, you just buy raffle tickets to cover your bad week. Even if I had to pay 5K out of pocket outside of sales I would do it. With my current trade guild I typically sell 20k worth of stuff a week (probably 100 gold if vendored) and I don't play more than an hour a day on average.

It is like this: would you rather run an everyday yard sale and make maybe $100 a week, or open a store, pay $200 rent, and make $1,000 a week?

I feel like the problem stems from these players being anti-social or shy/nervous to meet/talk with players.

I have heard many players stat that they don't want to play with others or join a guild. (Why are they playing an MMO?)

I have not talked to one single person in either trading guild in weeks. In fact, I don't even have my chat window open 90% of the time. They do dungeons and trials outside of the trading thing as well, but none of that is a requirement at all to be in the guild and selling stuff.

KhajiitiLizard · June 2016

newtinmpls wrote: »

KhajiitiLizard wrote: »

A few people on the forums hardly counts as the 'masses'. The only people against an auction house are the people in big trade guilds. They do no want to lose all that gold. A global trading post would take the money out of the hands of these huge trading 'guilds' and into the average player... of course they don't want that. They can't corner the market anymore.

Are you on skooma? I mean if you really think that would happen...you are in mirror land.

Big guilds would rotate peeps, buying up any "under priced" (read: reasonably priced) stuff, and then repost it for as much as they can.

Individuals would be forced to compete with such moster guilds .... and they would lose. The average farmer (read: rich player) would be able to buy anything, as long as they pay through the nose for it.

The non-compulsive player would basically not be able to afford much.

[edited for appropriate jargon]
.

The thing with a global trading post (not auction house) is that there would be many prices for the same thing. You buy it now, not place a bid, or place an order. All the different prices show up for that item, not many separate listings for the same thing. You could list something higher than the lowest price, but no one would buy it. If you wanted to get yours sold you'd list it lower than the current lowest. Prices would go down not up. The average player could sell instantly and get their gold right now. Not waiting for days/weeks/months.

I would say no to auction style listings and make it single items that have multiple prices. People could buy low and relist them for higher but there would be limits to stop this. Like can only list for this many gold lower than the lowest price or this many gold higher than the highest price. And the low/high price doesn't change for a set time period (like a week or something).

imnotanother · June 2016

emily3989 wrote: »

imnotanother wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

Mortam wrote: »

My friends and family are casual players, and never use the guild traders. They say the search sucks and they never find what they want. They play as if it does not exist, vendoring all loot.

I myself have used it in the past, but rarely.

Never understood this mentality. My guild currently requires 5K in sales per week. If you fall below, you just buy raffle tickets to cover your bad week. Even if I had to pay 5K out of pocket outside of sales I would do it. With my current trade guild I typically sell 20k worth of stuff a week (probably 100 gold if vendored) and I don't play more than an hour a day on average.

It is like this: would you rather run an everyday yard sale and make maybe $100 a week, or open a store, pay $200 rent, and make $1,000 a week?

I feel like the problem stems from these players being anti-social or shy/nervous to meet/talk with players.

I have heard many players stat that they don't want to play with others or join a guild. (Why are they playing an MMO?)

I have not talked to one single person in either trading guild in weeks. In fact, I don't even have my chat window open 90% of the time. They do dungeons and trials outside of the trading thing as well, but none of that is a requirement at all to be in the guild and selling stuff.

I agree with you, just adding my thoughts.
Many seem to see guilds as a huge commitment instead of a network to other players.