AD Using Wall Climbing Exploit in Trueflame

WuffyCerulei · June 2016

Finally some of my guildmates have figured out how some AD were getting on top of keep walls without using gap closers. They go up onto the side of postern house doors and jump their way up there. I'm pretty sure that's not something ZOS intended.
And this isn't just 1 or 2 people using this exploit. Numerous AD have been scaling the postern house door sides to get up. 10-15 AD, all high ranking, in the past couple weeks have been using this exploit. No more, you devious little bananas.

If you have a video of this exploit, please post it.

Morostyle · June 2016

You can also charge into an outpost via the grid above main gate! looks so stupid HAHA

Fyaal · June 2016

Dont stand on the edge of the walls. You're gonna get leapt, or chained, or ambused. Problem solved.

Ackwalan · June 2016

Fyaal wrote: »

Dont stand on the edge of the walls. You're gonna get leapt, or chained, or ambused. Problem solved.

That's not what is happening. You can 'mountain goat' your way up.

Lord_Hev · June 2016

I love this. Just gives everyone more AP, and makes keep defenses exciting instead of the same old hide on wall boring ****.

WTB old school DK leaps into keeps.

WuffyCerulei · June 2016

It's not the Dragon Leaps that DKs use. I know they can get into keeps like that. This is...this is something rather annoying.

Thalmor-Nordmaster · June 2016

it was on twitch

not my feed but i was there

Ghostbane · June 2016

Sadly this isn't patented to AD, its open source for everyone to use..

Lore_lai · June 2016

Thalmor-Nordmaster wrote: »

it was on twitch
https://www.twitch.tv/tankdt

not my feed but i was there

Dude needs to get his facts straight, that is not our group @ 15 seconds

Wollust · June 2016

I'll never understand why people (and ZoS I guess) insist on the "siege open the walls to enter" thing. It adds so much more fun to keep fights if there is different ways to get in.

The_Great_Maldini · June 2016

They should implement a grappling hook item to make singing a castle more realistic. Also maybe ladders than can be attacked/hacked at by people on the wall.

susmitds · June 2016

What's wrong with that? Jumping is not an exploit. Everybody can jump. If it was an exploit every PvEr who traveled through lava and jumped up at certain points in Vet. CoA can be labelled as exploiter which would make 90% of players attempting vCoA exploiters.

And yes, I am one of the ADs who did that.

WuffyCerulei · June 2016

susmitds wrote: »

What's wrong with that? Jumping is not an exploit. Everybody can jump. If it was an exploit every PvEr who traveled through lava and jumped up at certain points in Vet. CoA can be labelled as exploiter which would make 90% of players attempting vCoA exploiters.

And yes, I am one of the ADs who did that.

Well shame on you. You shouldn't be able to jump walls like that. I'm 99.99...% sure that was never intended in keep designs. Just gonna drop oils on you turds.

enzoisadog · June 2016

Nothing wrong on doing that. Its working as intended.

Swooshi · June 2016

It is just using gap closer's, nothing more. And its not and exploit if there was a patch to change it to the way it is now, its not like people are running 5 piece cheat engine to scale keeps.

Lore_lai · June 2016

wolfninja101b14_ESO wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

What's wrong with that? Jumping is not an exploit. Everybody can jump. If it was an exploit every PvEr who traveled through lava and jumped up at certain points in Vet. CoA can be labelled as exploiter which would make 90% of players attempting vCoA exploiters.

And yes, I am one of the ADs who did that.

Well shame on you. You shouldn't be able to jump walls like that. I'm 99.99...% sure that was never intended in keep designs. Just gonna drop oils on you turds.

Ye, we know EP is very good at anti-personnel siege, esp if they outnumber.
Must be all that @frozywozy ' training.

Get of the walls and fight like the "true Nords" y'all claim to be.

frozywozy · June 2016

Lore_lai wrote: »

wolfninja101b14_ESO wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

What's wrong with that? Jumping is not an exploit. Everybody can jump. If it was an exploit every PvEr who traveled through lava and jumped up at certain points in Vet. CoA can be labelled as exploiter which would make 90% of players attempting vCoA exploiters.

And yes, I am one of the ADs who did that.

Well shame on you. You shouldn't be able to jump walls like that. I'm 99.99...% sure that was never intended in keep designs. Just gonna drop oils on you turds.

Ye, we know EP is very good at anti-personnel siege, esp if they outnumber.
Must be all that @frozywozy ' training.

Get of the walls and fight like the "true Nords" y'all claim to be.

Level up an EP and go out in the open solo against Adamant or K-hole by yourself. See how that works for you.

rfennell_ESO · June 2016

Swooshi wrote: »

It is just using gap closer's, nothing more. And its not and exploit if there was a patch to change it to the way it is now, its not like people are running 5 piece cheat engine to scale keeps.

I don't know how it's done, but I've seen it before.

I think it has to do with the scaffolding that goes up by the postern though.

WuffyCerulei · June 2016

I have a templar, and he can't go over a damn pebble. No way in hell you guys are using em, Swooshi.

Lore_lai · June 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Lore_lai wrote: »

wolfninja101b14_ESO wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

What's wrong with that? Jumping is not an exploit. Everybody can jump. If it was an exploit every PvEr who traveled through lava and jumped up at certain points in Vet. CoA can be labelled as exploiter which would make 90% of players attempting vCoA exploiters.

And yes, I am one of the ADs who did that.

Well shame on you. You shouldn't be able to jump walls like that. I'm 99.99...% sure that was never intended in keep designs. Just gonna drop oils on you turds.

Ye, we know EP is very good at anti-personnel siege, esp if they outnumber.
Must be all that @frozywozy ' training.

Get of the walls and fight like the "true Nords" y'all claim to be.

Level up an EP and go out in the open solo against Adamant or K-hole by yourself. See how that works for you.

But that's the point - EP are never "by themselves"
FFS, most of the time they have more siege than we have people in our group

Also I have an EP and I did used to run into Mojican when I was PvP nub, and yeah we were getting rekt BUT - if you're just gonna sit on the damn walls and play Point-and-Click trebuchet games you're never gonna learn (speaking in general).

frozywozy · June 2016

Lore_lai wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Lore_lai wrote: »

wolfninja101b14_ESO wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

What's wrong with that? Jumping is not an exploit. Everybody can jump. If it was an exploit every PvEr who traveled through lava and jumped up at certain points in Vet. CoA can be labelled as exploiter which would make 90% of players attempting vCoA exploiters.

And yes, I am one of the ADs who did that.

Well shame on you. You shouldn't be able to jump walls like that. I'm 99.99...% sure that was never intended in keep designs. Just gonna drop oils on you turds.

Ye, we know EP is very good at anti-personnel siege, esp if they outnumber.
Must be all that @frozywozy ' training.

Get of the walls and fight like the "true Nords" y'all claim to be.

Level up an EP and go out in the open solo against Adamant or K-hole by yourself. See how that works for you.

But that's the point - EP are never "by themselves"
FFS, most of the time they have more siege than we have people in our group
Also I have an EP and I did used to run into Mojican when I was PvP nub, and yeah we were getting rekt BUT - if you're just gonna sit on the damn walls and play Point-and-Click trebuchet games you're never gonna learn (speaking in general).

You can't seriously state that I stand on the walls and siege you guys when you go farm your ressources. I'm always the first to jump down to give it a try until I get focus targeted and die from RD.

My point is, the level of experience of EP in small scale PvP is almost non existent. They're all gone or playing in medium groups nowadays. I would be seriously amazed to find such great players like the ones part of k-hole or adamant in EP but I haven't seen such thing in at least a year.

Sure I'll keep standing and challenging with my poison injection weaving and pop corrosive armor when I get zerged down by 6 of you dodge rolling back to my keep door.. Not really my cup of tea but that's all I can do until more hardcore and dedicate players stand up for small scale PvP.

Swooshi · June 2016

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

Swooshi wrote: »

It is just using gap closer's, nothing more. And its not and exploit if there was a patch to change it to the way it is now, its not like people are running 5 piece cheat engine to scale keeps.

I don't know how it's done, but I've seen it before.

I think it has to do with the scaffolding that goes up by the postern though.

Coming from someone with "hands on experience", all you really need is a gap closer that is not ambush and just stand near the door and try it when you see someone up there, I personally do think it needs to be fixed but until it is or ZOS says that it isn't allowed, you can plan on it happening consistently and seeing a lot people getting mad about it.

Rohamad_Ali · June 2016

wolfninja101b14_ESO wrote: »

Finally some of my guildmates have figured out how some AD were getting on top of keep walls without using gap closers. They go up onto the side of postern house doors and jump their way up there. I'm pretty sure that's not something ZOS intended.
And this isn't just 1 or 2 people using this exploit. Numerous AD have been scaling the postern house door sides to get up. 10-15 AD, all high ranking, in the past couple weeks have been using this exploit. No more, you devious little bananas.

If you have a video of this exploit, please post it.

Why post a video ? The people in charge just do this with the rules anyways .

Lore_lai · June 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Lore_lai wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Lore_lai wrote: »

wolfninja101b14_ESO wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

What's wrong with that? Jumping is not an exploit. Everybody can jump. If it was an exploit every PvEr who traveled through lava and jumped up at certain points in Vet. CoA can be labelled as exploiter which would make 90% of players attempting vCoA exploiters.

And yes, I am one of the ADs who did that.

Well shame on you. You shouldn't be able to jump walls like that. I'm 99.99...% sure that was never intended in keep designs. Just gonna drop oils on you turds.

Ye, we know EP is very good at anti-personnel siege, esp if they outnumber.
Must be all that @frozywozy ' training.

Get of the walls and fight like the "true Nords" y'all claim to be.

Level up an EP and go out in the open solo against Adamant or K-hole by yourself. See how that works for you.

But that's the point - EP are never "by themselves"
FFS, most of the time they have more siege than we have people in our group
Also I have an EP and I did used to run into Mojican when I was PvP nub, and yeah we were getting rekt BUT - if you're just gonna sit on the damn walls and play Point-and-Click trebuchet games you're never gonna learn (speaking in general).

You can't seriously state that I stand on the walls and siege you guys when you go farm your ressources. I'm always the first to jump down to give it a try until I get focus targeted and die from RD.

My point is, the level of experience of EP in small scale PvP is almost non existent. They're all gone or playing in medium groups nowadays. I would be seriously amazed to find such great players like the ones part of k-hole or adamant in EP but I haven't seen such thing in at least a year.

Sure I'll keep standing and challenging with my poison injection weaving and pop corrosive armor when I get zerged down by 6 of you dodge rolling back to my keep door.. Not really my cup of tea but that's all I can do until more hardcore and dedicate players stand up for small scale PvP.

No, you don't - you jump in the middle of us and try to set up meatbag there then roll away.

I get what you're trying to do and I like fighting you (and your group ofc) when you don't zerg surf + siege but what you say about EP just explains it, doesn't excuse it.
They are never going to learn (if they want to that is, if they want to just play in a big group that's fine too - people can do whatever the heck they want) to do smaller scale if they are just going to stand on walls/zerg.
You have to take a beating and get back up to learn. Nothing wrong with that and no-one was born a pvp pro.
Anyway, happy hunting and I'll always beam you just cause.

rfennell_ESO · June 2016

Swooshi wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

Swooshi wrote: »

It is just using gap closer's, nothing more. And its not and exploit if there was a patch to change it to the way it is now, its not like people are running 5 piece cheat engine to scale keeps.

I don't know how it's done, but I've seen it before.

I think it has to do with the scaffolding that goes up by the postern though.

Coming from someone with "hands on experience", all you really need is a gap closer that is not ambush and just stand near the door and try it when you see someone up there, I personally do think it needs to be fixed but until it is or ZOS says that it isn't allowed, you can plan on it happening consistently and seeing a lot people getting mad about it.

I'm saying that what was described was happening BEFORE the DB patch. I would see these stealthed nightblades moving up the postern where the scaffolding appeared. Over time they would get higher and higher up the wall until they jumped in.

joshhh_nb · June 2016

It was in the trailer that you could climb walls so it's not an exploit. They are finally staying true to the trailer, now we just need a Breton hero costume.

JDar · June 2016

Fyaal wrote: »

Dont stand on the edge of the walls. You're gonna get leapt, or chained, or ambused. Problem solved.

Victim blaming!

JDar · June 2016

Lord_Hev wrote: »

I love this. Just gives everyone more AP, and makes keep defenses exciting instead of the same old hide on wall boring ****.

WTB old school DK leaps into keeps.

Am I actually agreeing with this guy? Wow