As an Any-Race, Any-Alliance owner, how do you feel about One Tamriel?

Gidorick · June 2016

With One Tamriel the Any-Race, Any-Alliance perk will now only apply to PVP. All players and all races will be able to run around every faction from the get go. How do you feel about this?

Please expand on your thoughts with a comment or two!

Gidorick · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

I think it's great. While I liked the narrative of the 3 alliances I always felt the idea of a segregated Tamriel was weird. I don't feel the least bit upset about it.

Ravinsild · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

It doesn't matter. It was said to be pre-order exclusive but then they opened it to everyone in the cash shop, so at this point who cares.

It's not like Alliance and Horde. There aren't any strong political identities here. Each race is it's own thing. Everything should mingle.

There doesn't need to be a justification for PvP and making an entire storyline to justify it makes no sense. You want it to make sense? Okay - it's a free for all and you're a mercenary in it for money and glory. Everyone is fighting everyone to get rich quick.

tinythinker · June 2016

They can run around like that anyway after they get to silver/gold, this just speeds things up. It has always mattered most in terms of what race you can play as in PvP and that hasn't changed.

Deceptive_Yoshi · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

I don't mind it at all since one of my friends is a die hard nord lover.

Dromede · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

I'm not sure what it has to do with One Tamriel. I bought explorers to be able ro roll an Imperial, and also be able to play as a Dark Elf with Ad since i like their zones the best.

ShedsHisTail · June 2016

I'm not happy about it

I'm not stoked about it; but not because I feel ripped off or anything like that.
I feel like it cheapens the decision I made and relegates what used to be a character/RP decision to purely a PvP decision which undermines character identity, but I'm not grumpy that I spent extra money for a feature everyone else is essentially getting for free. I had two years of it that they didn't.

theher0not · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

I regreted buying the any race any faction thing less than a week after. I only bought it to be able to play khajiit when doing EP and DC areas. When I found out about silver and Gold I felt like I wasted my money on it. This won't make me feel better or worse.

Vinther · June 2016

Ever since they killed every single perk of pre-order bonus (why did i even bother to pre-purchase an utterly buggy and laggy game?) I have stopped caring about things like this and everything else remotely close to it.

ZOS will do what he wants, doesnt matter what you like or not.

nine9six · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

They've messed-up things that I cared much more about in the past.

ShedsHisTail · June 2016

I'm not happy about it

Ravinsild wrote: »

It doesn't matter. It was said to be pre-order exclusive but then they opened it to everyone in the cash shop, so at this point who cares.

It's not like Alliance and Horde. There aren't any strong political identities here. Each race is it's own thing. Everything should mingle.

The fact that there aren't any strong political identities here is, to me, one of the primary things this game is lacking. Players just don't seem to become invested in their factions for some reason, and I really feel like ZOS should be encouraging that rather than discouraging it.

Even in WoW, where you have every zone open to both factions (albeit with different quests depending on faction), there's still a real sense of loyalty for a lot of players, and for some reason, ESO just doesn't inspire that.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

I've wasted $20 too much on worse things. Meh.

Uriel_Nocturne · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

I'm perfectly fine with it.

I got the Any Race-Any Alliance when I pre-ordered the game for my One. This won't affect me one bit, nor does it make me regret having the Any Race-Any Alliance.

This will make it easier to group up with my Son and my Brother in Law as they're in different alliances than I am. We can finally adventure together without having to create all new characters.

Gidorick · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

Ravinsild wrote: »

It doesn't matter. It was said to be pre-order exclusive but then they opened it to everyone in the cash shop, so at this point who cares.

It's not like Alliance and Horde. There aren't any strong political identities here. Each race is it's own thing. Everything should mingle.

The fact that there aren't any strong political identities here is, to me, one of the primary things this game is lacking. Players just don't seem to become invested in their factions for some reason, and I really feel like ZOS should be encouraging that rather than discouraging it.

Even in WoW, where you have every zone open to both factions (albeit with different quests depending on faction), there's still a real sense of loyalty for a lot of players, and for some reason, ESO just doesn't inspire that.

Different quests depending on faction is something many MANY of us wanted @ShedsHisTail , it would have been awesome to fight against the events of the faction questline of the two opposing factions while you're in those zones... but this is something that would have been designed from day one.

Like many things in ESO.... this seems to be a product of short sightedness.

With how things are though, I think this is a good move.

Zaldan · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

although i got any race any alliance from a pre-order copy off the shelf the day after the game launched lol

Khaos_Bane · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

I'm not stoked about it; but not because I feel ripped off or anything like that.
I feel like it cheapens the decision I made and relegates what used to be a character/RP decision to purely a PvP decision which undermines character identity, but I'm not grumpy that I spent extra money for a feature everyone else is essentially getting for free. I had two years of it that they didn't.

It is a PvP decision, and that's about it. I don't see how it hurts RP at all. I have noticed that RP people tend to have very rigid ideas about race. Almost like there are no variants or individuals in a race at all, which is so untrue.

So IMO, it doesn't impact RP in the slightest.

Enodoc · June 2016

Oh, heh. I just created a discussion thread about this too

Do these three upcoming features spell the end of Any Race, Any Alliance?

ShedsHisTail · June 2016

I'm not happy about it

Gidorick wrote: »

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

Ravinsild wrote: »

It doesn't matter. It was said to be pre-order exclusive but then they opened it to everyone in the cash shop, so at this point who cares.

It's not like Alliance and Horde. There aren't any strong political identities here. Each race is it's own thing. Everything should mingle.

The fact that there aren't any strong political identities here is, to me, one of the primary things this game is lacking. Players just don't seem to become invested in their factions for some reason, and I really feel like ZOS should be encouraging that rather than discouraging it.

Even in WoW, where you have every zone open to both factions (albeit with different quests depending on faction), there's still a real sense of loyalty for a lot of players, and for some reason, ESO just doesn't inspire that.

Different quests depending on faction is something many MANY of us wanted @ShedsHisTail , it would have been awesome to fight against the events of the main story of the two opposing factions while you're in those zones... but this is something that would have been designed from day one.

Like many things in ESO.... this seems to be a product of short sightedness.

With how things are though, I think this is a good move.

@Gidorick I don't disagree, from a game-play standpoint. Like I said, my beef is from an RP perspective, which is a personal opinion that I don't expect others to share.

I think opening the zones is fine, I think allowing people to put any race in any faction is fine.

Although, I do feel like it further undermines an element of this game which has been lacking from the start; faction/political loyalty. It just makes for a livelier world when people actually care.

Whatzituyah · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

Im fine with it because I got imperial edition as a preorder that came with all alliance. But now we can go anywhere we want thats cool its not like theirs a war going on or anything...

Khaos_Bane · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

Whatzituyah wrote: »

Im fine with it because I got imperial edition as a preorder that came with all alliance. But now we can go anywhere we want thats cool its not like theirs a war going on or anything...

Technically, only over cyrodiil....

lolo_01b16_ESO · June 2016

As long as we get the second part of the justice system with "One Tamriel" I'm happy. If not, it's just a waste of dev ressources for people like me who already did every non dlc quest multiple times.

Ravinsild · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

Ravinsild wrote: »

It doesn't matter. It was said to be pre-order exclusive but then they opened it to everyone in the cash shop, so at this point who cares.

It's not like Alliance and Horde. There aren't any strong political identities here. Each race is it's own thing. Everything should mingle.

The fact that there aren't any strong political identities here is, to me, one of the primary things this game is lacking. Players just don't seem to become invested in their factions for some reason, and I really feel like ZOS should be encouraging that rather than discouraging it.

Even in WoW, where you have every zone open to both factions (albeit with different quests depending on faction), there's still a real sense of loyalty for a lot of players, and for some reason, ESO just doesn't inspire that.

Because they have no identity. What is the Daggerfall Covenant about? What are their core beliefs? What are their ideas?

Who is the Aldmeri Dominion? What do they believe in? Ebonheart Pact? They're just names and colors.

I can tell you about the Horde and the Alliance. Their differences. What they stand for. I know each of them well.

Whatzituyah · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

Khaos_Bane wrote: »

Whatzituyah wrote: »

Im fine with it because I got imperial edition as a preorder that came with all alliance. But now we can go anywhere we want thats cool its not like theirs a war going on or anything...

Technically, only over cyrodiil....

Still doesn't mean the alliances don't have their disagreements. Technical or not they don't like eachother at the current time.

BoloBoffin · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

I've had access to Any Race Any Alliance from the beginning. That's 2.5 years. 67 cents a month. And from what I can tell, ARAA will still mean only we get the Imperial race and free Imperial crafting. So yeah, I'm fine with it.

ETA: Well, not "free" Imperial crafting. Immediate and full access to the Imperial crafting motif (by making an Imperial toon your crafting toon).

ShedsHisTail · June 2016

I'm not happy about it

Whatzituyah wrote: »

Im fine with it because I got imperial edition as a preorder that came with all alliance. But now we can go anywhere we want thats cool its not like theirs a war going on or anything...

Any war is going to have civilians who aren't involved.
Similarly, most towns have members of opposing faction/race NPCs in them already.

There's Khajit NPCs in in Covenant zones and Altmer in Pact cities. People move around, and allegiances aren't decide by race. So that's fine.

people who are invested in the war effort have their battle ground.

Khaos_Bane · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

Gidorick wrote: »

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

Ravinsild wrote: »

It doesn't matter. It was said to be pre-order exclusive but then they opened it to everyone in the cash shop, so at this point who cares.

It's not like Alliance and Horde. There aren't any strong political identities here. Each race is it's own thing. Everything should mingle.

The fact that there aren't any strong political identities here is, to me, one of the primary things this game is lacking. Players just don't seem to become invested in their factions for some reason, and I really feel like ZOS should be encouraging that rather than discouraging it.

Even in WoW, where you have every zone open to both factions (albeit with different quests depending on faction), there's still a real sense of loyalty for a lot of players, and for some reason, ESO just doesn't inspire that.

Different quests depending on faction is something many MANY of us wanted @ShedsHisTail , it would have been awesome to fight against the events of the faction questline of the two opposing factions while you're in those zones... but this is something that would have been designed from day one.

Like many things in ESO.... this seems to be a product of short sightedness.

With how things are though, I think this is a good move.

I agree with you 100%, many people wanted an open world where you could go to the other faction and do quests against that faction. They could do that in the future though, you never know.

rotaugen454 · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

You mean, how do I feel about finally being able to group with friends from any alliance at any level? Pretty happy, actually.

ShedsHisTail · June 2016

I'm not happy about it

Khaos_Bane wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

Ravinsild wrote: »

It doesn't matter. It was said to be pre-order exclusive but then they opened it to everyone in the cash shop, so at this point who cares.

It's not like Alliance and Horde. There aren't any strong political identities here. Each race is it's own thing. Everything should mingle.

The fact that there aren't any strong political identities here is, to me, one of the primary things this game is lacking. Players just don't seem to become invested in their factions for some reason, and I really feel like ZOS should be encouraging that rather than discouraging it.

Even in WoW, where you have every zone open to both factions (albeit with different quests depending on faction), there's still a real sense of loyalty for a lot of players, and for some reason, ESO just doesn't inspire that.

Different quests depending on faction is something many MANY of us wanted @ShedsHisTail , it would have been awesome to fight against the events of the faction questline of the two opposing factions while you're in those zones... but this is something that would have been designed from day one.

Like many things in ESO.... this seems to be a product of short sightedness.

With how things are though, I think this is a good move.

I agree with you 100%, many people wanted an open world where you could go to the other faction and do quests against that faction. They could do that in the future though, you never know.

What would be great is if they did that with One Tamriel, making it more of a DLC with -new- content for long-time players, rather than just a patch that opens a door most of us have already walked through.

Would love to see that the Fall season is bringing a new DLC to make my monthly subscription worth it, rather than just giving something I already have to everyone else.

Woeler · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

Should have been like this in the beginning.

Gidorick · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

@Gidorick I don't disagree, from a game-play standpoint. Like I said, my beef is from an RP perspective, which is a personal opinion that I don't expect others to share.

I think opening the zones is fine, I think allowing people to put any race in any faction is fine.

Although, I do feel like it further undermines an element of this game which has been lacking from the start; faction/political loyalty. It just makes for a livelier world when people actually care.

hmm... What if ZOS created "Faction Quests"... make some sort of system where if you are in one faction you perform tasks and do quests for your faction in the other two faction's zones. Sort of like "spy missions" for your faction.

They could have an actual quest line for each faction and then have the player do dailies after that.... that would kind of cool @ShedsHisTail . Would that be an appropriate "fix" here?

Defilted · June 2016

I'm fine with it.

Personally things like this do not bother me at all. I really do not see what the big deal is.

I only play AD characters and I do take some pride in my faction and can continue to do so with this change in affect.

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