WhiteNoiseMaker wrote: »Most of the Sorc complaints are from endgame DPS numbers-chasers. I play a Sorc Healer and she does fine in most dungeon content. There's a few end bosses where her healing pet dies a lot, but that's partially because I haven't quite adjusted for those particular situations yet. PVPers have some legitimacy in their complaints, because the Sorc was previously a god class and now is feeling the pains of being mortal-squishy due to being overly nerfed in that department.
I'd say if you are interested in pew-pew/blasty sorcerors, you might do fine til the very-upper endgame like Trials, where people obsessively crunch numbers. Solo-play will be a cakewalk for you. Most dungeons will be just fine.
I've been playing for about 3-4 days now as a Sorcerer, which is currently my first and only class. I've been reading the forum lately and it looks like they class is pretty useless and I rather not waste my time on it if so. Does anybody know if there are plans to change the class at all?
WhiteNoiseMaker wrote: »Most of the Sorc complaints are from endgame DPS numbers-chasers. I play a Sorc Healer and she does fine in most dungeon content. There's a few end bosses where her healing pet dies a lot, but that's partially because I haven't quite adjusted for those particular situations yet. PVPers have some legitimacy in their complaints, because the Sorc was previously a god class and now is feeling the pains of being mortal-squishy due to being overly nerfed in that department.
I'd say if you are interested in pew-pew/blasty sorcerors, you might do fine til the very-upper endgame like Trials, where people obsessively crunch numbers. Solo-play will be a cakewalk for you. Most dungeons will be just fine.
The point is, he is just starting leveling a character... Why would anyone recommend he levels a sorcerer when in many late game scenarios they are 'ok' at best?
If he wants to do Magicka DPS or Heal he is far better leveling a Templar.
If he wants to do Stamina DPS or Tank he is far better leveling a DK
If he wants to PvP, he is far better leveling a Nightblade.
That is the advise I would want as a new player.
I've been playing for about 3-4 days now as a Sorcerer, which is currently my first and only class. I've been reading the forum lately and it looks like they class is pretty useless and I rather not waste my time on it if so. Does anybody know if there are plans to change the class at all?
Doncellius wrote: »I've been playing for about 3-4 days now as a Sorcerer, which is currently my first and only class. I've been reading the forum lately and it looks like they class is pretty useless and I rather not waste my time on it if so. Does anybody know if there are plans to change the class at all?
Keep on playing with Sorcerer, and if you like it, there is no need to stop. Only switch classes if you'd rather play a different class. Whatever class you find most fun is what you should play!
Currently Sorcerers face certain issues but only in pure endgame and higher level PvP. If you are new to the game, it will be a long time before this ever matters to you.
ZOS is bound to overhaul the Sorcerer class as a whole by the 3rd Quarter DLC, so by the time you get to this point, it will never have effected you anyway. Not guaranteed, but I expect them to based on lots of different reasons
As a follow up, do you plan on focusing more on Stamina and weapon abilities, or Magicka and class abilities? It is mostly the Magicka-based Sorcerer changes which have sparked the current forum class balance uproar.
Doncellius wrote: »I've been playing for about 3-4 days now as a Sorcerer, which is currently my first and only class. I've been reading the forum lately and it looks like they class is pretty useless and I rather not waste my time on it if so. Does anybody know if there are plans to change the class at all?
Keep on playing with Sorcerer, and if you like it, there is no need to stop. Only switch classes if you'd rather play a different class. Whatever class you find most fun is what you should play!
Currently Sorcerers face certain issues but only in pure endgame and higher level PvP. If you are new to the game, it will be a long time before this ever matters to you.
ZOS is bound to overhaul the Sorcerer class as a whole by the 3rd Quarter DLC, so by the time you get to this point, it will never have effected you anyway. Not guaranteed, but I expect them to based on lots of different reasons
As a follow up, do you plan on focusing more on Stamina and weapon abilities, or Magicka and class abilities? It is mostly the Magicka-based Sorcerer changes which have sparked the current forum class balance uproar.
Well right now I'm more magicka abilities, mostly because I'm trying to up the summoning for the daedra armor use. But, I'm also a lot of destruction staff as well, I don't really know what weapons besides staffs are fit for Sorcerers. I've been doing some research on it but the stuff I find isn't really applicable to my character as I'm pretty new and j just reached lvl 16 today.
One key thing you will find is that you must have clanfear for soloing because you don't have a great class heal and will be tied to the destruction staff and healing staff for actual healing and DPS and remain to remain competitive.
There is just a lack of diversity and boredom when playing sorcerers.
A whole group of people recently lost the ability;
Wearing 5 - 7 light pieces of armor while tanking better then a player in 7 Heavy.
Do a very nice amount of damage while wearing two to three shields that scaled of max magica which meant sorcs could run around with 12 - 15 K health with an effective health pool 25 - 35 K depending on build, stats, and champion points.
The shield up times were reduced so keeping a six second shield would significantly drain your resources and hamper ability to time burst combos while taking little to no damage.
In short not quite god like but very close and in the hands of a good to great player was next to impossible to kill and could do all sorts of interesting things.
Sorcs are neither worthless nor broken like every class in the game they could prob use a tweetk here or there but are extremely enjoyable if you like the play style.
A rather large amount of people enjoyed the shield stacking, frag out, overload, mines, and streak for the win play style and are extremely upset they can't do exactly what they used to go and get the same result. Because there are so many people yelling one would think it gives weight to an argument that has very little.
In short play a sorc if you want they are not the Demi gods of yesterday but they are not broken either.
No, they are not broken, they are just plain boring with no role in which they are not outshone by the other classes. Don't recommend a new player to keep leveling a class with an uncertain future just because you think the class is fine. Unless you've seriously played a sorcerer you shouldn't be giving your opinion here.
I qualified it with if he likes he it play it. And it's a free country and somewhat free forum, so my opinions are mine to give as I choose and to be refuted by you, if you choose.
At least we do agree they are not broken.A whole group of people recently lost the ability;
Wearing 5 - 7 light pieces of armor while tanking better then a player in 7 Heavy.
Do a very nice amount of damage while wearing two to three shields that scaled of max magica which meant sorcs could run around with 12 - 15 K health with an effective health pool 25 - 35 K depending on build, stats, and champion points.
The shield up times were reduced so keeping a six second shield would significantly drain your resources and hamper ability to time burst combos while taking little to no damage.
In short not quite god like but very close and in the hands of a good to great player was next to impossible to kill and could do all sorts of interesting things.
Sorcs are neither worthless nor broken like every class in the game they could prob use a tweetk here or there but are extremely enjoyable if you like the play style.
A rather large amount of people enjoyed the shield stacking, frag out, overload, mines, and streak for the win play style and are extremely upset they can't do exactly what they used to go and get the same result. Because there are so many people yelling one would think it gives weight to an argument that has very little.
In short play a sorc if you want they are not the Demi gods of yesterday but they are not broken either.
One would think that someone who doesn't play Sorc shouldn't be giving their opinions on a Sorc thread. So what do you play, buddy...Nightblade?
If the one would think is a kajiit play, well done, if it was a attempt at clever, epic fail.
I have 2 of each class since you asked, buddddddyyyyy
If you really have leveled a sorcerer you will know that while leveling the class is fine and is actually fun to play with. The problem starts when you get to late game and you have to shoehorn your character into a rigid build composed by your least fun abilities because most the abilities you came to like on your character are actually useless.
A whole group of people recently lost the ability;
Wearing 5 - 7 light pieces of armor while tanking better then a player in 7 Heavy.
Do a very nice amount of damage while wearing two to three shields that scaled of max magica which meant sorcs could run around with 12 - 15 K health with an effective health pool 25 - 35 K depending on build, stats, and champion points.
The shield up times were reduced so keeping a six second shield would significantly drain your resources and hamper ability to time burst combos while taking little to no damage.
In short not quite god like but very close and in the hands of a good to great player was next to impossible to kill and could do all sorts of interesting things.
Sorcs are neither worthless nor broken like every class in the game they could prob use a tweetk here or there but are extremely enjoyable if you like the play style.
A rather large amount of people enjoyed the shield stacking, frag out, overload, mines, and streak for the win play style and are extremely upset they can't do exactly what they used to go and get the same result. Because there are so many people yelling one would think it gives weight to an argument that has very little.
In short play a sorc if you want they are not the Demi gods of yesterday but they are not broken either.
No, they are not broken, they are just plain boring with no role in which they are not outshone by the other classes. Don't recommend a new player to keep leveling a class with an uncertain future just because you think the class is fine. Unless you've seriously played a sorcerer you shouldn't be giving your opinion here.
I qualified it with if he likes he it play it. And it's a free country and somewhat free forum, so my opinions are mine to give as I choose and to be refuted by you, if you choose.
At least we do agree they are not broken.A whole group of people recently lost the ability;
Wearing 5 - 7 light pieces of armor while tanking better then a player in 7 Heavy.
Do a very nice amount of damage while wearing two to three shields that scaled of max magica which meant sorcs could run around with 12 - 15 K health with an effective health pool 25 - 35 K depending on build, stats, and champion points.
The shield up times were reduced so keeping a six second shield would significantly drain your resources and hamper ability to time burst combos while taking little to no damage.
In short not quite god like but very close and in the hands of a good to great player was next to impossible to kill and could do all sorts of interesting things.
Sorcs are neither worthless nor broken like every class in the game they could prob use a tweetk here or there but are extremely enjoyable if you like the play style.
A rather large amount of people enjoyed the shield stacking, frag out, overload, mines, and streak for the win play style and are extremely upset they can't do exactly what they used to go and get the same result. Because there are so many people yelling one would think it gives weight to an argument that has very little.
In short play a sorc if you want they are not the Demi gods of yesterday but they are not broken either.
One would think that someone who doesn't play Sorc shouldn't be giving their opinions on a Sorc thread. So what do you play, buddy...Nightblade?
If the one would think is a kajiit play, well done, if it was a attempt at clever, epic fail.
I have 2 of each class since you asked, buddddddyyyyy
For someone who has 2 of each class, you have a rather limited view of Sorcerers. Try playing it for more than 2 hours total.
Jack_Handey wrote: »Make one of each class and choose what you like best
A whole group of people recently lost the ability;
Wearing 5 - 7 light pieces of armor while tanking better then a player in 7 Heavy.
Do a very nice amount of damage while wearing two to three shields that scaled of max magica which meant sorcs could run around with 12 - 15 K health with an effective health pool 25 - 35 K depending on build, stats, and champion points.
The shield up times were reduced so keeping a six second shield would significantly drain your resources and hamper ability to time burst combos while taking little to no damage.
In short not quite god like but very close and in the hands of a good to great player was next to impossible to kill and could do all sorts of interesting things.
Sorcs are neither worthless nor broken like every class in the game they could prob use a tweetk here or there but are extremely enjoyable if you like the play style.
A rather large amount of people enjoyed the shield stacking, frag out, overload, mines, and streak for the win play style and are extremely upset they can't do exactly what they used to go and get the same result. Because there are so many people yelling one would think it gives weight to an argument that has very little.
In short play a sorc if you want they are not the Demi gods of yesterday but they are not broken either.
One would think that someone who doesn't play Sorc shouldn't be giving their opinions on a Sorc thread. So what do you play, buddy...Nightblade?
I've been playing for about 3-4 days now as a Sorcerer, which is currently my first and only class. I've been reading the forum lately and it looks like they class is pretty useless and I rather not waste my time on it if so. Does anybody know if there are plans to change the class at all?
Knightpanther wrote: »I only play a Sorcerer, have no time for alts so my main is my life in ESO.
The flexibility of the class and the endless ways you can play it was what made me roll a Sorcerer.
(stamina, sword/board. full plate, solo PVEr).
There's a major rule with MMOs these days:
As levelling is so easy and reaching top rank takes so little time compared to the gaming experience of old, lots of people have alts that they use as mains depending on which is flavour of the month.
Soon as the PvPer folk cry nerf something happens and PVE gets whacked.
Or end game players in PVE spot that the chap next to him is doing 0000000000.00001 % dps more and throw their toys out the pram.
In short, classes change/evolve due to nerfs, ignore everyone else if you enjoy the class and have fun.
The benefit is you will learn your class inside out and learn to adapt.
Be safe