NativeJoe wrote: »

Whatever, let me ride my golem from daggerfall, and we'll call it even. You then can have all your brown horses, dull grey horses, and bears.

if we are going outlandish, i want a rickshaw driven by dark seducers, who at the push of hte jump button, will scream 'we love you master' as my character cackles into the sunset

greylox wrote: »

As long as there is never flying mounts

I want a floating silt strider, but that's as close to flying as I want. Call it levitation if you will.

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

greylox wrote: »

As long as there is never flying mounts

I want a floating silt strider, but that's as close to flying as I want. Call it levitation if you will.

I miss those from Morrowind.

Vigarr wrote: »

Where in lore can normal people sprout dragon wings and breathe fire? Or fire rocks from their fist and turn themselves into a rock person? This is just a 1 class example that breaks lore so fancy mounts fit in fine in this game...this isn't TES.

Oh, so any new stuff breaks lore? Nice, but then Morrowind breaks lore too... Many mechanics have been changed if you compare it to Daggerfall.

Vigarr wrote: »

Where in lore can normal people sprout dragon wings and breathe fire? Or fire rocks from their fist and turn themselves into a rock person? This is just a 1 class example that breaks lore so fancy mounts fit in fine in this game...this isn't TES.

Breathe fire - Destruction - fire specialty
Rock fists - alteration
Rock skin - Alteration (there are even powers with names like this like Ebonflesh, Oakflesh, etc in previous TES).
The wing thing might seem odd, but really its a fancy form of a common spell in TES: Reflect. I would have gone about it differently personally, but I don't have a problem with it specifically. These guys are meant to be of an Akaviri magical-martial tradition. It just doesn't bug me.

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Asmael wrote: »

Hum...

There is only 1 of Arvak and he is undead, that is why he looks like that but these mounts are not undead and their are plenty of them running around with no explanation as to why.

Right.It wouldnt make any sense to have a ton of Arvaks being ridden all over Tamriel.

zombie horse
halloween limited time mount

Edit: btw, i agree with the point of the post, just playing devil's advocate, in a way

An undead mount is easily explained by Necromancy. The problem is that Necromancy is generally frowned upon (or even illegal depending on where you are). But it is not really lore-breaking.

oh i agree, and im having to bite my tounge to keep from advocating adding a necro skill line

but i digress, arvak or simular mounts can be explained away, but the dro'mathra is difficult, honestly if they just renamed it 'dead thrall senche' i think they could pass it off better. cause if you played skyrim, you know that the dead thrall spell spreads blue-ish necro shine all across the character you raised, and if you did that to a panther senche, it might look like this

@bloodenragedb14_ESO The cat is an evil spirits that's possessed a senche (which can happen). It's established in the lore already, you don't need to invent your own canon behind it to accept it.

Can only Khajiit be Dro-M'Athra @Valrien ?

Not too sure on that. I know from the Stonefalls quest that they can kill and then copy people of any race, though I'm not sure that counts. I've only actually seen Khajiit be "possessed" by them in Maw of Lorkhaj and obviously the mount.

EDIT: Looking at the description of the mount I was wrong. It says senche-shaped so it seems that it's actually a dro-m'Athra spirit that's taking the form of a senche. Since all of this lore is relatively new to the Elder Scrolls world it's taking me a bit to wrap my head around it lol. I'm going to assume that they can take the form of all races like they did in Stonefalls.

Interesting @Valrien ! Thanks for the info... So it's not a Senche that's been possessed, it's a Dro-M'Athra that has taken the form of a Sence.

Then the question is how did the rider come to control or gain the trust of the dro-m'athra? These things arent exactly friendly to mortals. What did the Vestige do to gain control of it? Im assuming this is much like summoning a familiar from the daedric planes.

I dont have problem with adding lore if it is added to end of previouws lore so the timeline stands as ongoing process.

ESO however happens in the past and i have some problems wirth many things that seem to happen only on this era but not before or after.

In some way though, it feels like Star Wars, in the 4,5 and 6 the tech is rather bulkyand basic, world does not seem too evolved. Then episodes 1,2 and 3 the world is in many ways, much more advanced. Maybe the loss of magick knownledge and landshape changes have happened because of this war.. Are we going to have our Emperors mentioned in the oncoming true TES games? Where is knownledge of Akaviri dragonknights? Where is the templar poking stick skill that seems the most popular skill among templars these days, its so much used that there has to be some knownledge of it somewhere. Why does that elven ghost in the cave at Bleak rock say his soul is black and gooey, apart from gooey stuff all humanoid souls are black. Why does all the soul gem stuff work completely different than in other TES games? Why is Cyrodil not a jungle

Who erased all of the history that happens on the second era?Why there are no good records?

Thing might be that if ESO did not go free to play, the game would look much more traditional than it looks now i think, Lore is easily added in flashy outbursts and people will accept the added lore as canon because the new lore looks cool, right? If the new lore is not looking cool, people will not buy it and not complain about it because not many would want to see ugly lore mounts like wwooden crate that one can sit and float about, its just sort of levitation spell, right? Well, floarting crate would look so funny that even i would want one but.. hehe


Why is all the rest ofnormal stuff that players do in other TES games so normal looking, horses, nothing more, basic atronachs, familiars and stuff. ESO went too much to Theme park way having TES slabbed on to it when it should have gone to smaller audience sandbox MMORPG, these can do pretty well too though they are not new Warcrafts but why is it that everyone wants just a generic theme park MMO these days rather than something special? I admit the combat system and all other stuff in ESO is quite nice but it should have been for established TES people rather than MMO crowd .


The stuff players can do in ESO sticks out so much from what players can do in other games. Why do players have powers and stuff that apparently has not been possible before? Not because its okay to add lore in midle of the existing lore but because that lore looks cool so the lore is ok and established and better yet if there be vague mention of this stuff in other TES games books, then its always justifiable, even while they never ,mention Dromathra as being used as mounts by thousands. Senche, at least some breeds have been known to carry select few which would justify the select few having senche tiger mount as reward.

But as i said before, there is bertter ways than add mount lore to make money like the better clothing option.

Besides, look at LOTRO, games with MMORPG slab on them can do very well without too much flashy stuff because the lore is why people keep playing and even while some imply the game is dead, it still goes on and hasgood fanbase, maybe not a traditional MMO crowd but it has good number of players.

Im just typing what pops to my head here and i just woke up and have no coffee yet so if i sound a litle more crazy than usual its that

PS: Funny how all the flashy stuff happened after going f2p model, we shall see even mre "unique" mounts in the future, even more warcraft style exessive particle effects, permanently flaming swords and icy swords because they are cool, what could be more rational even in fantasy world than one carrying a burning blade on their backs, oversized shoulderpieces with exessive particle effects, if it sells, its good lore, right?:P

I just wish wwe could stand on the more traditional stuff here on ESO too, players dont need to have all the flashy stuff that Daedra and Aedra, gods and goddesses have.

This would be an ideal mount. It could be the first two/[x] player mount!

2000 years is a long time..... remember that 2000 years ago here on Earth, we were dominated by the Roman Empire. A lot can change in 2000 years and TESO takes place in the 2nd era 2000 years before TES 1: Arena. Who knows what can happen in 2000 years, perhaps this time period in Tamriel will be viewed upon like the Dark Ages of Earth History where many historical documents and knowledge has been lost. You can reference even Earth History again with the Roman knowledge of plumbing and water management being lost during the middle ages, or ancient Greek philosophical ideas about science and mathematics being lost until the rise of the enlightenment period in the 18th century (I think that's when the Enlightment started). It does make some sense, Molag Bal is trying to rip the world into Coldharbor afterall, the Empire is in full collapse in Cyrodiil, who know what documents/ history, are being destroyed. What atrocities are being committed, and we don't even yet know how it will end, am I surprised that some of the skills/ abilities are lost between now and the TES games.... no. I mean even in the TES games there were abilities lost and changed.... I fondly remember levitating across the entire island of Vardenfell in Marrowind, only to be sorely disappointed in Oblivion when my alteration magic has lost the ability to levitate, and the timeframe from Marrowind to Oblivion is way less, I mean Uriel Septim VII was emperor in both. (well at the start of Oblivion anyways). Yet the ability to levitate was apparently lost (on the mainland anyhow).

In summary, its not a surprise that things are different now compared to the TES games.... lots can happen in 2000 years.

Wrathmane wrote: »

2000 years is a long time..... remember that 2000 years ago here on Earth, we were dominated by the Roman Empire. A lot can change in 2000 years and TESO takes place in the 2nd era 2000 years before TES 1: Arena. Who knows what can happen in 2000 years, perhaps this time period in Tamriel will be viewed upon like the Dark Ages of Earth History where many historical documents and knowledge has been lost. You can reference even Earth History again with the Roman knowledge of plumbing and water management being lost during the middle ages, or ancient Greek philosophical ideas about science and mathematics being lost until the rise of the enlightenment period in the 18th century (I think that's when the Enlightment started). It does make some sense, Molag Bal is trying to rip the world into Coldharbor afterall, the Empire is in full collapse in Cyrodiil, who know what documents/ history, are being destroyed. What atrocities are being committed, and we don't even yet know how it will end, am I surprised that some of the skills/ abilities are lost between now and the TES games.... no. I mean even in the TES games there were abilities lost and changed.... I fondly remember levitating across the entire island of Vardenfell in Marrowind, only to be sorely disappointed in Oblivion when my alteration magic has lost the ability to levitate, and the timeframe from Marrowind to Oblivion is way less, I mean Uriel Septim VII was emperor in both. (well at the start of Oblivion anyways). Yet the ability to levitate was apparently lost (on the mainland anyhow).

In summary, its not a surprise that things are different now compared to the TES games.... lots can happen in 2000 years.

Assuming your post was in response to mine, I would point out that there is a clear difference between saying that the lore had been added to, filled out, or outright changed, and claiming that something has "always existed in the lore of the Elder Scrolls." I have no issue with the former in this case; I merely called out the latter which was a rather bold and unilateral claim offered with no supporting evidence (and frankly smacked of BS that the poster just expected anyone else to accept as fact without questioning it's veracity).

I personally want a netch mount.

I want to see an army slowly floating accross cyrodill on flying squids.... just sayin.