Wash and Unbind: Armor Concept

Gidorick · May 2016

This is a REALLY quick one. ZOS should allow players to wash their armor at the dye station. This will:

Restore the armor to its original colors
Unbind armor that was unbound prior to dying so it can be sold/traded

Credit for this goes to @LadyLethalla for posting the following in the Ask us Anything thread.

LadyLethalla wrote: »

Can I ask, what is the purpose of Bind On Pickup? Or, for that matter, binding armour once you dye it. Why can't I sell gear I've outranked, just because I dyed it?

... I think this is my shortest concept ever.

Auricle · May 2016

So, you're asking for a gold sink option that unbinds BindOnPickup items? While it's not the worst idea ever, I feel like that completely undoes the entire point of the BoP gear category, which is kind of a classic MMO staple. Maybe it's just me, but I like the concept of BoE versus BoP items. It provides a sense of certainty, of finality-- if I put it on, this gear is stuck with me. I believe ESO's real problem is that there are FAR too many BoP items, and not enough sellable drops.

Just my two cents. Your idea could totally be a thing, though.

Gidorick · May 2016

Auricle wrote: »

So, you're asking for a gold sink option that unbinds BindOnPickup items? While it's not the worst idea ever, I feel like that completely undoes the entire point of the BoP gear category, which is kind of a classic MMO staple. Maybe it's just me, but I like the concept of BoE versus BoP items. It provides a sense of certainty, of finality-- if I put it on, this gear is stuck with me. I believe ESO's real problem is that there are FAR too many BoP items, and not enough sellable drops.

Just my two cents. Your idea could totally be a thing, though.

Whoops... no @Auricle . I guess my explanation was TOO brief. heheh. No not bind on pickup, just armor that was previously unbound but bound because you dyed them.

Auricle · May 2016

Ahh. Nope, I see it now. My reading skills just leveled up.

Gidorick · May 2016

Auricle wrote: »

Ahh. Nope, I see it now. My reading skills just leveled up.

LOL. I edited the OP @Auricle . Reading Skills were on point.

Auricle · May 2016

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dodgehopper_ESO · May 2016

I hate bind on pickup, although I think if a piece of armor is built for a specific person it should function better for that person, and not as well for the next guy. Almost no one is the exact same size. Admittedly, this would be too much work to program, but it would be reasonable. Gear decay/maintenance could also be a thing.

Probably more on point though, I like the idea of being able to clear out an armor's color scheme back to stock settings.

Duiwel · May 2016

So OP you want to dye armour and give it to a friend or an alt account?

Why not help them get the achievement instead? There is literally not once achi in game that's dye related that is difficult to obtain...

Even Akatosh Gold is not that hard.

Gidorick · May 2016

Duiwel wrote: »

So OP you want to dye armour and give it to a friend or an alt account?

Why not help them get the achievement instead? There is literally not once achi in game that's dye related that is difficult to obtain...

Even Akatosh Gold is not that hard.

Err, no @Duiwel , I want to be able to un-dye armor and give it to a friend.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · May 2016

This should never have been introduced, this bounding system, in the first place!!!

TheShadowScout · May 2016

Personally I am not in favor of "bound" items at all. I mean... its a sword, one person drops it, the next picks it up and starts hacking... its not exactly rocket science or fingerprint locks, is it? (and come to think of it, isn't that pretty much how we get all the gear we have on our characters in the first place?)

As such, I would not mind such an "wash & unbind" function for ALL gear. Even BoP. Even trial super-rare stuff for that matter. As long as the unbind cost was scaled accordingly... then its the players choice. Do they really want to pay 50K gold to unbind that sword? When the one they'd want to give it to could buy an almost as good piece in the next guild store for 10K?

Cryptical · May 2016

There is a way to restore original colors. At the dye bench, flip over to the "clear color" option.

STEVIL · May 2016

I concur with idea about being able to remove dye job and sell previously dyed armor.

I think the process should be email it or sell in guild store or trade. anytime it leaves your account it resets to normal, no work required.

As for BOP, I think it is overused but not removable. Maybe it should have an expiration date of one year, six months, something or just leave as is.

I think BOE serves no real purpose and should be done away with. If I can sell it today, I should be able to sell it tomorrow.

JustSnilloc · May 2016

Cryptical wrote: »

There is a way to restore original colors. At the dye bench, flip over to the "clear color" option.

That doesn't allow you to gift/sell it to friends though, because once you color it, it's yours forever.

Personally, I would like to see such a system implemented.

Duiwel · May 2016

As long as the gear was not bind on pickup before I see no reason why this would be unreasonable. Thank you for the clarification I misunderstood the original post this morning because I was still sleepy.

I thought you meant you wanted to dye armour and send it to a friend or remove the bound on BoP items.

While I am against BoP myself while it's in place I am against trading them.

If it's removed I welcome it as I think all gear should be BoE instead.

Gidorick · June 2016

Duiwel wrote: »

As long as the gear was not bind on pickup before I see no reason why this would be unreasonable. Thank you for the clarification I misunderstood the original post this morning because I was still sleepy.

I thought you meant you wanted to dye armour and send it to a friend or remove the bound on BoP items.

While I am against BoP myself while it's in place I am against trading them.

If it's removed I welcome it as I think all gear should be BoE instead.

yea @Duiwel , this isn't suggesting a way to trade BoP items (that's in another thread of mine.

) it's just suggesting being able to "reset" items that you've dyed and can no longer sell or trade.

dodgehopper_ESO · June 2016

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Personally I am not in favor of "bound" items at all. I mean... its a sword, one person drops it, the next picks it up and starts hacking... its not exactly rocket science or fingerprint locks, is it? (and come to think of it, isn't that pretty much how we get all the gear we have on our characters in the first place?)

As such, I would not mind such an "wash & unbind" function for ALL gear. Even BoP. Even trial super-rare stuff for that matter. As long as the unbind cost was scaled accordingly... then its the players choice. Do they really want to pay 50K gold to unbind that sword? When the one they'd want to give it to could buy an almost as good piece in the next guild store for 10K?

I concur.