Simple poll about your perception of ESO

Yinmaigao · May 2016

Simple poll, completely anonymous.

Just curious if the string of exploits and glitches (ultimates/crafting/<cheat program>) have any influence on your perception of the game and it's community.

Do you find yourself upset and teetering on moving on to another game, or is the forum just full of crybaby conspiracy theorists?

mb10 · May 2016

People need to stop overreacting and need to realise these issues are ONLY on PC.

The other 2 out of the 3 platforms are on are absolutely fine. The biggest issue is players not realising their own internet connection is the main cause to 95% of their problems the other 5% being when there are many players in the same location which ZOS need to work on.

But what game has anyone ever played that was perfect and why are they not playing it anymore and here on these forums?

People seriously need to give ESO a break because deep down we all like the game and enjoy it or else why on Earth would you be playing it or have over 4 maxed out characters?

Ffastyl · May 2016

While I am not about to pack up and move or start cheating myself, it does feel like enforcement is not present or too light.

disintegr8 · May 2016

No real dramas happening for those of us sticking to PVE on consoles

Phelaen · May 2016

where is the BAN THEM ALL option?

Lysette · May 2016

Well there is no option for me - I do not want ESO to become a 2nd Archeage disaster. I will personally most likely not be effected by this for a long time to come - but it kills any desire to try out pvp at some point in time, and as I know me, I will want to try it and maybe even enjoy it - but not, if these hacks are around - that is why I left Archeage for example. So in short, as long as I do not do pvp, it will most likely just be an annoyance on the forums for me - but when I will try pvp and will be confronted with these kind of hacks, this might make me leave for good.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · May 2016

Phelaen wrote: »

where is the BAN THEM ALL option?

Id go with the BAN THEM ALL, AS IN EVERYONE ELSE I PREFER MY ELDER SCROLLS SINGLE PLAYER, option?

Yinmaigao · May 2016

mb10 wrote: »

People need to stop overreacting and need to realise these issues are ONLY on PC.

The other 2 out of the 3 platforms are on are absolutely fine. The biggest issue is players not realising their own internet connection is the main cause to 95% of their problems the other 5% being when there are many players in the same location which ZOS need to work on.

But what game has anyone ever played that was perfect and why are they not playing it anymore and here on these forums?

People seriously need to give ESO a break because deep down we all like the game and enjoy it or else why on Earth would you be playing it or have over 4 maxed out characters?

Not trying to add to the craziness here, just want an honest, non-attributional look into how people are feeling.

I /lurk in a lot of threads, and see reactions running the spectrum.

Hopefully, we can keep this thread low-key and even-keeled.

Phelaen · May 2016

hacking / exploiting should lead to ban
look for them, protect against them, ban them forever when caught.

simple and effective, please ZOS check how CCP does it for EVE online.
those guys are quick and spot on!

Lysette · May 2016

Well, for a competitive player this is an absolute disaster - I can understand the feelings of those, who do not use cheats to accomplish something very well. And I do not think, that a person, who is not a cheater, will attempt to cheat as well due to this. Someone considering that, is per se already a cheater by concept, he has just not commited the crime yet. But a decent moral person will not cheat, regardless if that is policed or not.

DaniAngione · May 2016

Poll too biased.

Either I don't care about hacking/exploiting or I'm considering it myself.

Without an option like "I don't think it's a minor issue but I'm not considering it myself because I have a bit of decency and would rather see them punished" I'm not voting.

Lysette · May 2016

Phelaen wrote: »

hacking / exploiting should lead to ban
look for them, protect against them, ban them forever when caught.

simple and effective, please ZOS check how CCP does it for EVE online.
those guys are quick and spot on!

yes and that makes EVE such an amazing and enjoyable game. CCP is awesome.

Lysette · May 2016

DaniAngione wrote: »

Poll too biased.

Either I don't care about hacking/exploiting or I'm considering it myself.

Without an option like "I don't think it's a minor issue but I'm not considering it myself because I have a bit of decency and would rather see them punished" I'm not voting.

This, I did not vote as well - and like I said, a decent person will not even consider to cheat - regardless if that is policed or not.

Runs · May 2016

Enforcement of ToS is too lax, but I would rather suck than cheat.

phaneub17_ESO · May 2016

Back when the game was a monthly subscription model I would have expected higher standards, but not after it's gone subscription free. Finite resources, staff, and trying to the keep the game afloat I can understand it will take time for them to fix issues; there are games where cheating is far more rampant and have bigger issues than ESO.

Lysette · May 2016

But it is not free to play - I doubt that ZOS has any problem with "keeping afloat" - this game is doing well, revenue-wise. But I have seen in Archeage what happens, when hacks are around and effect a lot of players - at some point they have just enough and leave for good. It happened to Archeage and at lot of other korean games, simply because korean get performance for their games by violating the client-server architecture - that is why there are so many hacks possible - and ESO has as well not a proper client-server architecture, otherwise hacks like this would not be possible.

danno8 · May 2016

Lysette wrote: »

Well there is no option for me - I do not want ESO to become a 2nd Archeage disaster. I will personally most likely not be effected by this for a long time to come - but it kills any desire to try out pvp at some point in time, and as I know me, I will want to try it and maybe even enjoy it - but not, if these hacks are around - that is why I left Archeage for example. So in short, as long as I do not do pvp, it will most likely just be an annoyance on the forums for me - but when I will try pvp and will be confronted with these kind of hacks, this might make me leave for good.

I get what you are saying, but comparing ESO to Archeage in any sense is way off. That game was set up to be a P2W disaster right from the get go, with a developer (Korean) and publisher ocean's apart (literally). What a mess.

Lysette · May 2016

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Back when the game was a monthly subscription model I would have expected higher standards, but not after it's gone subscription free. Finite resources, staff, and trying to the keep the game afloat I can understand it will take time for them to fix issues; there are games where cheating is far more rampant and have bigger issues than ESO.

Well, when players can manipulate their stats and use abilities on top of it more often than intended - what does that mean for competitive gameplay?- This is a big issue for this part of the game - because these cheats make competition unfair and then it is not desirable anymore, to try competitive gameplay in the intended way - more and more will use cheats then, to be on par with the others and stay competitive. This has to be avoided, because it will just kill the pvp and competitive PvE part of the game - speak "end game" will be horrible.

Lysette · May 2016

danno8 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Well there is no option for me - I do not want ESO to become a 2nd Archeage disaster. I will personally most likely not be effected by this for a long time to come - but it kills any desire to try out pvp at some point in time, and as I know me, I will want to try it and maybe even enjoy it - but not, if these hacks are around - that is why I left Archeage for example. So in short, as long as I do not do pvp, it will most likely just be an annoyance on the forums for me - but when I will try pvp and will be confronted with these kind of hacks, this might make me leave for good.

I get what you are saying, but comparing ESO to Archeage in any sense is way off. That game was set up to be a P2W disaster right from the get go, with a developer (Korean) and publisher ocean's apart (literally). What a mess.

Yes archeage has a lot of issue, one being that Trion is a horrible publisher with no way to do anything on the game by themselves, because it is owned by XXL games and if those do not make changes, Trion can do nothing. But Archeage is by concept a game, which is not meant to be around for long - most korean games are fast cash grabbers which cater to whales. ESO is hopefully not intended to be of this kind. But it can run into similar problems, if this now is not taken care of.

Edit: an example - when housing will be out - and if this has some limited supply like in Archeage - then bots can make this feature into a real disaster - like it is in Archeage, some have lots of houses, others cannot get a spot, because they do not cheat. I never made it to more than a 16x16 in Archeage, and this was sheer luck, because the grabber bot crashed just a few seconds before the spot was up for sale.

nimander99 · May 2016

Dood, it's a forum for an MMO. Snowflakes are atomic bombs here.

Oompuh · May 2016

Being a console player, It doesnt bother me. I'm just waiting for the first Hard Mode Vet Maw to be done by a group of 12 meteor spammers, there's already been a 29 minute vma run

Lysette · May 2016

Oompuh wrote: »

Being a console player, It doesnt bother me. I'm just waiting for the first Hard Mode Vet Maw to be done by a group of 12 meteor spammers, there's already been a 29 minute vma run

And exactly this kind of crap takes the fun out of the game for all who try this without cheats - this cannot stay as it is.

ArchMikem · May 2016

All's Quiet On The Console Front.

Lysette · May 2016

ArchMikem wrote: »

All's Quiet On The Console Front.

Like that reference to Erich Maria Remarque's novel

Dracan_Fontom · May 2016

People should have respect to not cheat, but that's a figment of my imagination.

Yngve_Nik · May 2016

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Smileybones · May 2016

As often in MMO's forums, people say that the sky is falling, that the game will die and that no one listens to them.

Vaoh · May 2016

ESO is an awesome game. Very few things can possibly happen that could truly ruin its population.

Then again, I play on PS4. It is not my place to speak on how terrible hacking is on the PC servers atm. Over on console this doesn't exist.

Phinix1 · May 2016

Ffastyl wrote: »

While I am not about to pack up and move or start cheating myself, it does feel like enforcement is not present or too light.

I voted that this is generally blown out of proportion, though I do believe ZOS needs to tighten the noose a bit more. I think they are on the right track with the change to PERMANENT bans, I just think they need to come down with more of the same and more often.

I also think these ban waves needs to be front page news like with other game companies.

I am glad to see it confirmed that many of these "I can do it because it's undetectable" types that try and hack in instanced areas thinking they will only get caught if they are reported by other players, are also being banned because imagine that, there are scripts running to check the logs if calculated stats, damage, and time between abilities were actually where they should be.

So, people are getting banned even when they were not directly reported by other players!

This weekend was mostly an organized attack by people that have a vested interest, either in other games or in causing economic strife through bad publicity. Overall I think they failed, as my enjoyment and faith in ESO has not been altered by their antics.

I just get the impression this was a bunch of attention seekers and copycats leaving ESO anyway and wanting to go out with a bang. Well, they got their wish. Enjoy those permanent bans now that you can't come back even if you wanted to.

But I don't think their goal of disrupting the community or affecting sales was at all successful.

imenace · May 2016

mb10 wrote: »

People need to stop overreacting and need to realise these issues are ONLY on PC.

The other 2 out of the 3 platforms are on are absolutely fine. The biggest issue is players not realising their own internet connection is the main cause to 95% of their problems the other 5% being when there are many players in the same location which ZOS need to work on.

But what game has anyone ever played that was perfect and why are they not playing it anymore and here on these forums?

People seriously need to give ESO a break because deep down we all like the game and enjoy it or else why on Earth would you be playing it or have over 4 maxed out characters?

are you saying you dont lag? do you know whats going on in the PTS? did you enjoy the thieves guild launch? the consoles lag just as much if not evne more and the bugs from PC are still there even though the pc is basically a PTS for consoles, stop being ignorant and look take a look around, the game is dying because zos cant implement anything without breaking it & adding 100 bugs.

idk · May 2016

The poll is absurd.

1 answer that things are no big deal. 2 choices for the sky is falling and a final choice of nothing.

Really, they need to remove the ability to create pointless polls right after they finish clearing house.

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