CokeVoAYCE wrote: »

i think you guys are letting your emotions compromise your logic. a perma-ban should not be the first course of action against cheaters. i'd argue for a Temp-Ban - and loss of all gear (and also loss of all gold, achievements, question completion, etc.). basically i'd advocate for an entire account wipe. people make mistakes and deserve a second chance, but their account, plus all their accomplishments, are compromised if they cheat.

No, they didn't make a mistake. This was 100% pre-meditated, deliberate, outright cheating. You didn't just stumble up this. You had to go out and find the application, download it, install it, and use it. You had to purposely search for ESO cheats. That is no "mistake" here. These losers chose to blatantly violate the terms of service of the game.

These cheaters aren't two years old. Anyone old enough to play this game should have developed some sort of a moral code, or at the very least know how to read. There is no ambiguity in the TOS. ZOS is well within their rights to nuke their accounts from orbit, and they should.

hamgatan wrote: »

Casterial wrote: »

"software they're using is the #1 free "Hacking and cheating software available."

An exploit is more of a glitch, a hack is using a device to corrupt ones data

still not hacking. its exploiting because its using third party software to exploit a client side memory addressing issue (possibly cooldown timer.. don't know) by injecting new code to that memory block to gain advantage. If the control on that was done entirely server side then yes it'd be a hack.

anyway not going into too much detail, lest i get my wrist slapped for talking about exploits in more detail. Good thread on the mechanics of the proc is here --> https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/268253/a-few-facts-about-the-recent-ultimate-exploit

Evening Hamgatan, I can indeed tell you they are using a third person program to "change stats" in-game. How? The thing they are using is CE, if you know what that is good. We don't need to go into detail. It modifies the users value (data) through the client, allowing them to lock the Ultimate % value using add ons for the correct amount at or above the % needed. Thus the user locks the data at said "500%" allowing them to use ANY ultimate the wish, without any changes. This is how the engine they're using works. This engine has anti detection throughout other games, using said engine on any game is not an exploit, but a hack and the user is ban from the game 9/10 times.


Game Engine request != server, using a key sends everything to the game engine itself.... Ever try to test out an engine? They are just modifying the client side, and not the server side. Editing their client data, and not the server data. There is no exploit, this is a client hack.

Also, please remember those using this are indeed NOT EXPLOITING when flying/speed hacking.




But it doesn't matter what any of us think, ZOS will think of it themselves, and solve the issue and do all solutions themselves. Every person so far reported for this that I know of has a 4-5day ban until they figure out a solution, which may permaban or unban them.

If you're caught using this, there is no excuse to "I didn't know it was an exploit".

Ban them and be done with it, make others think twice about this kind of action in future.

I can't believe there are those of you who picked the non perma ban option...

Acrolas wrote: »

They'll just try to come back anyway if their accounts are permanently destroyed. They'll blame ZOS for it, not themselves.

A short ban, followed by a permanent "Cheater" title on all their characters. Then it's not that they can't play at all. They just have to be publicly reminded of their shame for the rest of their visits to Tamriel.

Basically the asterisk for a different kind of sport.

And a visible small/local raincloud above their head that follows them everywhere they go, whenever they play.

Toss in random lightning striking the player/cheater, and NPCs pointing and laughing whenever the player/cheater passes by, and I'll buy a token in the crownstore to show I support the above.

I would usually go for the "permaban" option, but it is not realistic - ZOS would never permanently ban their customers.

However, I would like to see a "Wall of Shame".
Every player that gets a ban for cheating should be listed on the Wall and removed from all Leaderboards if any.
Then prevent those players from earning leaderboard points permanently.

It doesn't even need to be a public Wall of Shame.
As long as players caught cheating cannot compete for leaderboards anymore.

X day ban for any first 'cheating', Perm ban for any future

Oh, and a name and shame list (yes, goes against the rules of the site)

Nyx2 wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

Perma-ban and they will be back with another account. Needs more annoying punishment. Also give them the perma Title of Cheater that cant be changed.

There is nothing more annoying. Your option even saves them the time to grind and any negative effect on their account does nothing than equal a perm ban cause they won't put up with it. So... great idea.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

No matter what cheat you use, it needs to be dealt with permanently.
Perma ban.
No one can say, he did not know he was cheating.

End of discussion.

Let me take this back: also sue them, and ask for heavy reimbursements for damages done to ZoS and the community.

We have the tools to check who's behind a IP.
Use this, demand high reimbursements.
Hell, and 10 year jail.

Duiwel wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

http://kotaku.com/hackers-mmo-character-publicly-stripped-killed-banne-1702670398

This. For each and every last one of them.

Do this to them! in Daggerfall - Glenumbra for the DC ones, Davon's Watch - Stonefalls for EP ones and Vulkhel Guard - Auridon for the AD ones.

That way even new players who might consider it will get to witness the humilation.

This is what hackers cannot handle "their precious ego's being bruised" this is what they need.

Bring on the spectacle!

Hell I will wait a week if you guys can "build" an arena real fast just for this call it the Banrena! ( I just coined that word ).

Make a portal "the little oval light one" and have players who wish to spectate enter the BANRENA and then let the bans begin

Players can enter the zone and it takes them to the BANRENA then we witness their execution

And film this, make threads about them, their actions, the punishment.
Make it into a "news feed" with a reporter, who "captures the incident as it unfolds".
Then post this 'news" right here!

@MishMash Are you defending the cheaters, or?
Not quite sure what to make of your post.

Ah, my bad, thank you for clearing that up, Brother/Sister.