Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »This does sound like the case of buyers remorse. If you bought all the DLC's which are expensive. Why did you not just get ESO+. I can understand how you see this as unfair but to expect the devs to accommodate for your regret of spending all that money doesn't seem fair either.
Adding this as a ESO+ only perk is a great incentive to keep steady revenue flow into the game. Which benefits everyone as a whole. And quite frankly if you have the money to blow on all the DLC's and then some more store content. You have the money to buy a sub plan.
I think it's more of a feeling of being scammed by Ubizo$, they sold the B2P model under the advertisement of "no subscription required", naturally one would assume that any perks or extras given for subscribing would also be offered for sale under the B2P model too.
"No subscription required" does not mean that benefits would not be made available to subscribers. You can play the game without a subscription can you not? No scam is in operation here.
Other perks for subscribing or at least an alternative are offered for sale in the crown store are they not?
Yes you have alternatives in game for craft bags. Its called crown bank/bag store upgrade. Ive got like 160 bag on each of my 8 toons and around 170-ish bank slots I think off the top of my head. I just need more space because im a hoarder and still have some v1-v15 gear pieces in game lol. If you are not a hoarder like me, you can easily make do with the allowable bank slots. If anything, you should be arguing for REMOVAL of bank cap. That way you can upgrade to your hearts content. You might get more traction and support even from ESO+ members this way. Begging for the bag is not gona make it happen.. At least in the near future. Devs have been very vocal and clear on that. Their answer to the question about whether craft bag was for ESO+ only was like literally just one word: YES.
I've stated before in earlier threads and polls that I'd be happy with the removal of bank caps.
I don't care either way about the craft bags I was simply putting forth an opinion of how people who were sold the B2P model maybe feeling scammed, if B2P customers are no longer needed then that's fine by me as Ubizo$ obviously no longer need my cash for further development of the game.
I dont get it... When I go to a club to drink and don't get to sit at the VIP table or get free special VIP drinks I don't whine about it... Im happy with just being able to have a good time and buy what my money can get me... That dosent mean the club dosent want my money... It just means they are "encouraging" me to get a VIP membership since I spend a lot of time there anway...
from what I can see you guys are the only ones whining, I've bought all the dlcs and supported the game so why would I subscribe now to rent what I already own?... it would be like the club in your ridiculous analogy selling you a drink then charging you again for the privilige of drinking it.
No. It would be like you bought a cherry vodka and took a gander at my bottle of 18 year old single malt and now want it for the same price as your little cup of cherry vodka. Your logic being you already bought alcohol (your cherry vodka) so you feel like you dont want to pay for the whiskey now. There's a name for this feeling. Its called buyer's remorse.
lol you're still whining under the assumption I want a crafting bag, as I stated earlier I don't care, I'd be happy with removal of bank caps or even a small extention but ultimitely I still don't give a toss lol.
Subs can have the craft bags, doesn't make any difference to me one way or another, if zos don't need my cash anymore then theres no need to give them it as I personally don't see the bags as worth it *shrugs*
Fantastic. Guess we are on the same page. Funny you sound like my ex-gf when she kept telling me she was totally okay with me talking to her BFF. A year later turns out she really hated it.
What Z should do is offer a crown store minibag that holds 500 account-bound items. This would free up bank space and not compete with the craft bags.
Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »This does sound like the case of buyers remorse. If you bought all the DLC's which are expensive. Why did you not just get ESO+. I can understand how you see this as unfair but to expect the devs to accommodate for your regret of spending all that money doesn't seem fair either.
Adding this as a ESO+ only perk is a great incentive to keep steady revenue flow into the game. Which benefits everyone as a whole. And quite frankly if you have the money to blow on all the DLC's and then some more store content. You have the money to buy a sub plan.
I think it's more of a feeling of being scammed by Ubizo$, they sold the B2P model under the advertisement of "no subscription required", naturally one would assume that any perks or extras given for subscribing would also be offered for sale under the B2P model too.
"No subscription required" does not mean that benefits would not be made available to subscribers. You can play the game without a subscription can you not? No scam is in operation here.
Other perks for subscribing or at least an alternative are offered for sale in the crown store are they not?
Yes you have alternatives in game for craft bags. Its called crown bank/bag store upgrade. Ive got like 160 bag on each of my 8 toons and around 170-ish bank slots I think off the top of my head. I just need more space because im a hoarder and still have some v1-v15 gear pieces in game lol. If you are not a hoarder like me, you can easily make do with the allowable bank slots. If anything, you should be arguing for REMOVAL of bank cap. That way you can upgrade to your hearts content. You might get more traction and support even from ESO+ members this way. Begging for the bag is not gona make it happen.. At least in the near future. Devs have been very vocal and clear on that. Their answer to the question about whether craft bag was for ESO+ only was like literally just one word: YES.
I've stated before in earlier threads and polls that I'd be happy with the removal of bank caps.
I don't care either way about the craft bags I was simply putting forth an opinion of how people who were sold the B2P model maybe feeling scammed, if B2P customers are no longer needed then that's fine by me as Ubizo$ obviously no longer need my cash for further development of the game.
I dont get it... When I go to a club to drink and don't get to sit at the VIP table or get free special VIP drinks I don't whine about it... Im happy with just being able to have a good time and buy what my money can get me... That dosent mean the club dosent want my money... It just means they are "encouraging" me to get a VIP membership since I spend a lot of time there anway...
from what I can see you guys are the only ones whining, I've bought all the dlcs and supported the game so why would I subscribe now to rent what I already own?... it would be like the club in your ridiculous analogy selling you a drink then charging you again for the privilige of drinking it.
No. It would be like you bought a cherry vodka and took a gander at my bottle of 18 year old single malt and now want it for the same price as your little cup of cherry vodka. Your logic being you already bought alcohol (your cherry vodka) so you feel like you dont want to pay for the whiskey now. There's a name for this feeling. Its called buyer's remorse.
lol you're still whining under the assumption I want a crafting bag, as I stated earlier I don't care, I'd be happy with removal of bank caps or even a small extention but ultimitely I still don't give a toss lol.
Subs can have the craft bags, doesn't make any difference to me one way or another, if zos don't need my cash anymore then theres no need to give them it as I personally don't see the bags as worth it *shrugs*
Fantastic. Guess we are on the same page. Funny you sound like my ex-gf when she kept telling me she was totally okay with me talking to her BFF. A year later turns out she really hated it.
That's funny, I was just thinking the exact same thing about you, my ex used to moan about everything I bought her too, she'd still always wear and use the items I paid for but wow did she enjoy hearing herself whine about it.
Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »What Z should do is offer a crown store minibag that holds 500 account-bound items. This would free up bank space and not compete with the craft bags.
That's another good idea. I'm lucky, I have a guild bank with 500 slots pretty much to myself atm anyway, 110 members in it who no longer play.
Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »hydrocynus wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »This does sound like the case of buyers remorse. If you bought all the DLC's which are expensive. Why did you not just get ESO+. I can understand how you see this as unfair but to expect the devs to accommodate for your regret of spending all that money doesn't seem fair either.
Adding this as a ESO+ only perk is a great incentive to keep steady revenue flow into the game. Which benefits everyone as a whole. And quite frankly if you have the money to blow on all the DLC's and then some more store content. You have the money to buy a sub plan.
I think it's more of a feeling of being scammed by Ubizo$, they sold the B2P model under the advertisement of "no subscription required", naturally one would assume that any perks or extras given for subscribing would also be offered for sale under the B2P model too.
Tell me how it is b2p?
does it give you extra dps/sustain/mitigation/what?
B2P means BUY to play, I dunno about you but I bought my copy of the game.
hydrocynus wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »hydrocynus wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »This does sound like the case of buyers remorse. If you bought all the DLC's which are expensive. Why did you not just get ESO+. I can understand how you see this as unfair but to expect the devs to accommodate for your regret of spending all that money doesn't seem fair either.
Adding this as a ESO+ only perk is a great incentive to keep steady revenue flow into the game. Which benefits everyone as a whole. And quite frankly if you have the money to blow on all the DLC's and then some more store content. You have the money to buy a sub plan.
I think it's more of a feeling of being scammed by Ubizo$, they sold the B2P model under the advertisement of "no subscription required", naturally one would assume that any perks or extras given for subscribing would also be offered for sale under the B2P model too.
Tell me how it is b2p?
does it give you extra dps/sustain/mitigation/what?
B2P means BUY to play, I dunno about you but I bought my copy of the game.
Fair enough. I am confused. How is it P2W?
BrotherChaz wrote: »eso+ does have perks. you get all expansions free.. pluss experience boons etc. and free crowns. These things are also available to those who want to makle purchases outright.
I have no problem with eso+ getting the craft bags. However it should be available to ther purchase people also for the sake of fairness. Because this is indeed an item that makes very real difference to mall because frankly im tired of having a couple of character slots as storage space. It is important, it does make a difference, and if it has been "beat to death" as you say then it should tell you it matterts to many people.
Its great you have no problem with is... please stand back and let thoise with a differing view have a chance to say what they feel also. Thanks.
Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Obsessed with trying to tell me I have "buyers remorse" aren't you, did you just learn that phrase recently and been looking for the chance to use it in a sentence? lol
Everyone left the guild but you? Gee... Wonder why.... Good for you!
Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Obsessed with trying to tell me I have "buyers remorse" aren't you, did you just learn that phrase recently and been looking for the chance to use it in a sentence? lol
I see you're all out of steam huh.. I've had snappier comebacks from a bowl of cheetos..... Try harder lol!
Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Obsessed with trying to tell me I have "buyers remorse" aren't you, did you just learn that phrase recently and been looking for the chance to use it in a sentence? lol
I see you're all out of steam huh.. I've had snappier comebacks from a bowl of cheetos..... Try harder lol!
Far from it, I'm just working atm so not really concentrating on retorts as witty and comical as your cheetos remark, in case you're wondering a "job" is what stops us from becoming unemployed losers sitting on our backsides all day watching our parents on jeremy kyle.
Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »This does sound like the case of buyers remorse. If you bought all the DLC's which are expensive. Why did you not just get ESO+. I can understand how you see this as unfair but to expect the devs to accommodate for your regret of spending all that money doesn't seem fair either.
Adding this as a ESO+ only perk is a great incentive to keep steady revenue flow into the game. Which benefits everyone as a whole. And quite frankly if you have the money to blow on all the DLC's and then some more store content. You have the money to buy a sub plan.
I think it's more of a feeling of being scammed by Ubizo$, they sold the B2P model under the advertisement of "no subscription required", naturally one would assume that any perks or extras given for subscribing would also be offered for sale under the B2P model too.
"No subscription required" does not mean that benefits would not be made available to subscribers. You can play the game without a subscription can you not? No scam is in operation here.
Other perks for subscribing or at least an alternative are offered for sale in the crown store are they not?
Yes you have alternatives in game for craft bags. Its called crown bank/bag store upgrade. Ive got like 160 bag on each of my 8 toons and around 170-ish bank slots I think off the top of my head. I just need more space because im a hoarder and still have some v1-v15 gear pieces in game lol. If you are not a hoarder like me, you can easily make do with the allowable bank slots. If anything, you should be arguing for REMOVAL of bank cap. That way you can upgrade to your hearts content. You might get more traction and support even from ESO+ members this way. Begging for the bag is not gona make it happen.. At least in the near future. Devs have been very vocal and clear on that. Their answer to the question about whether craft bag was for ESO+ only was like literally just one word: YES.
I've stated before in earlier threads and polls that I'd be happy with the removal of bank caps.
I don't care either way about the craft bags I was simply putting forth an opinion of how people who were sold the B2P model maybe feeling scammed, if B2P customers are no longer needed then that's fine by me as Ubizo$ obviously no longer need my cash for further development of the game.
I dont get it... When I go to a club to drink and don't get to sit at the VIP table or get free special VIP drinks I don't whine about it... Im happy with just being able to have a good time and buy what my money can get me... That dosent mean the club dosent want my money... It just means they are "encouraging" me to get a VIP membership since I spend a lot of time there anway...
from what I can see you guys are the only ones whining, I've bought all the dlcs and supported the game so why would I subscribe now to rent what I already own?... it would be like the club in your ridiculous analogy selling you a drink then charging you again for the privilige of drinking it.
No. It would be like you bought a cherry vodka and took a gander at my bottle of 18 year old single malt and now want it for the same price as your little cup of cherry vodka. Your logic being you already bought alcohol (your cherry vodka) so you feel like you dont want to pay for the whiskey now. There's a name for this feeling. Its called buyer's remorse.
lol you're still whining under the assumption I want a crafting bag, as I stated earlier I don't care, I'd be happy with removal of bank caps or even a small extention but ultimitely I still don't give a toss lol.
Subs can have the craft bags, doesn't make any difference to me one way or another, if zos don't need my cash anymore then theres no need to give them it as I personally don't see the bags as worth it *shrugs*
Fantastic. Guess we are on the same page. Funny you sound like my ex-gf when she kept telling me she was totally okay with me talking to her BFF. A year later turns out she really hated it.
Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Obsessed with trying to tell me I have "buyers remorse" aren't you, did you just learn that phrase recently and been looking for the chance to use it in a sentence? lol
I see you're all out of steam huh.. I've had snappier comebacks from a bowl of cheetos..... Try harder lol!
Far from it, I'm just working atm so not really concentrating on retorts as witty and comical as your cheetos remark, in case you're wondering a "job" is what stops us from becoming unemployed losers sitting on our backsides all day watching our parents on jeremy kyle.
Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »
Everyone left the guild but you? Gee... Wonder why.... Good for you!
Whatever are you implying lol
I know you're frustrated that you've failed to rouse more than a smirk from me but most actually left the game with the response "this is a broken piece of excrement" but I personally put it down to having a guild leader much like yourself in the respect that he was always whining, trying to tell people their own views and opinions and talking out of his backside, he was tolerable but pretty dimwitted too, had a huge ego and assumed he had intelligence to match it.. shame he left really, I enjoyed laughing at him too.
BrotherChaz wrote: »eso+ does have perks. you get all expansions free.. pluss experience boons etc. and free crowns. These things are also available to those who want to makle purchases outright.
I have no problem with eso+ getting the craft bags. However it should be available to ther purchase people also for the sake of fairness. Because this is indeed an item that makes very real difference to mall because frankly im tired of having a couple of character slots as storage space. It is important, it does make a difference, and if it has been "beat to death" as you say then it should tell you it matterts to many people.
Its great you have no problem with is... please stand back and let thoise with a differing view have a chance to say what they feel also. Thanks.
What Z should do is offer a crown store minibag that holds 500 account-bound items. This would free up bank space and not compete with the craft bags.
EstelioVeleth wrote: »Damn what the heck of ex gf did you guys have?
EstelioVeleth wrote: »Damn what the heck of ex gf did you guys have?
Hence the title EX was awarded to them LOL.
EstelioVeleth wrote: »EstelioVeleth wrote: »Damn what the heck of ex gf did you guys have?
Hence the title EX was awarded to them LOL.
But still guys, learn the signs of a future crazy ex before wasting time on the wrong people, I didnt have a gf (Im married and straight anyway) but I had a friend actually that wasted a lot of time of my life with lies, and control ;____;... crazy women people are out there. Protect yourselves.
Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Obsessed with trying to tell me I have "buyers remorse" aren't you, did you just learn that phrase recently and been looking for the chance to use it in a sentence? lol
I see you're all out of steam huh.. I've had snappier comebacks from a bowl of cheetos..... Try harder lol!
Far from it, I'm just working atm so not really concentrating on retorts as witty and comical as your cheetos remark, in case you're wondering a "job" is what stops us from becoming unemployed losers sitting on our backsides all day watching our parents on jeremy kyle.
Good thing for me I can do both, my job and come up with witty retortsConsidering my guilds are all full and im not the one with an empty guild with over 110 members not playing... nuff said lol.....Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »
Everyone left the guild but you? Gee... Wonder why.... Good for you!
Whatever are you implying lol
I know you're frustrated that you've failed to rouse more than a smirk from me but most actually left the game with the response "this is a broken piece of excrement" but I personally put it down to having a guild leader much like yourself in the respect that he was always whining, trying to tell people their own views and opinions and talking out of his backside, he was tolerable but pretty dimwitted too, had a huge ego and assumed he had intelligence to match it.. shame he left really, I enjoyed laughing at him too.
khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Obsessed with trying to tell me I have "buyers remorse" aren't you, did you just learn that phrase recently and been looking for the chance to use it in a sentence? lol
I see you're all out of steam huh.. I've had snappier comebacks from a bowl of cheetos..... Try harder lol!
Far from it, I'm just working atm so not really concentrating on retorts as witty and comical as your cheetos remark, in case you're wondering a "job" is what stops us from becoming unemployed losers sitting on our backsides all day watching our parents on jeremy kyle.
Good thing for me I can do both, my job and come up with witty retortsConsidering my guilds are all full and im not the one with an empty guild with over 110 members not playing... nuff said lol.....Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »
Everyone left the guild but you? Gee... Wonder why.... Good for you!
Whatever are you implying lol
I know you're frustrated that you've failed to rouse more than a smirk from me but most actually left the game with the response "this is a broken piece of excrement" but I personally put it down to having a guild leader much like yourself in the respect that he was always whining, trying to tell people their own views and opinions and talking out of his backside, he was tolerable but pretty dimwitted too, had a huge ego and assumed he had intelligence to match it.. shame he left really, I enjoyed laughing at him too.
Actually, having one 'dead' guild is a blessing. It's the solution to lacking bank space. 500 extra bank slots really comes in handy. And you can still have 4 full, active guilds.
Plenty of crazy guys too. Believe me.
EstelioVeleth wrote: »
Plenty of crazy guys too. Believe me.
I believe you, met some of them myself but still... I always got along better with guys for some reason, you guys have less drama, less back stabbing and are more straight forward! Many women are jealous of their own friends, try to act holier than thou... not into that kind of stuff. My best girl friend acts like a bro, we talk about the weirdest things while eating pizza and swearing at games, but still put on makeup, wear dresses in public and cry with lord of the rings xD.
khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »Obsessed with trying to tell me I have "buyers remorse" aren't you, did you just learn that phrase recently and been looking for the chance to use it in a sentence? lol
I see you're all out of steam huh.. I've had snappier comebacks from a bowl of cheetos..... Try harder lol!
Far from it, I'm just working atm so not really concentrating on retorts as witty and comical as your cheetos remark, in case you're wondering a "job" is what stops us from becoming unemployed losers sitting on our backsides all day watching our parents on jeremy kyle.
Good thing for me I can do both, my job and come up with witty retortsConsidering my guilds are all full and im not the one with an empty guild with over 110 members not playing... nuff said lol.....Tommy1979AtWar wrote: »
Everyone left the guild but you? Gee... Wonder why.... Good for you!
Whatever are you implying lol
I know you're frustrated that you've failed to rouse more than a smirk from me but most actually left the game with the response "this is a broken piece of excrement" but I personally put it down to having a guild leader much like yourself in the respect that he was always whining, trying to tell people their own views and opinions and talking out of his backside, he was tolerable but pretty dimwitted too, had a huge ego and assumed he had intelligence to match it.. shame he left really, I enjoyed laughing at him too.
Actually, having one 'dead' guild is a blessing. It's the solution to lacking bank space. 500 extra bank slots really comes in handy. And you can still have 4 full, active guilds.
I think..... you might have missed the point... or are a little late to the party lol.