FatKidHatchets wrote: »

I was just staring at the millions of ap annd thought it be cool if tempering alloy was for sale at a merchant for AP.

I just can't get behind the tempering grind. And would like to see other options.

Sell AP, buy alloys, problem solved.

Not for this at all... You should just get more from raw mats. It would cause a huge surge in cyrodil populations.. And not all players have millions of AP lying around. The ones that do would have a massive advantage

With all the PvP sets being updated in DB PvP players will have a lot of high desire items to sell again, we shouldn't have any problems turning AP into gold.

Also I am against more changes which separate PvE and PvP. The game was launched with the idea there would be few barriers between the two and players would partake in both like some of the old school MMO games. We already have three currencies, sets with PvE/PvP specific bonuses and people demanding two versions of every skill.

Soon enough we'll be like WoW and SWTOR and you can't play both with ease because you need your expertise sets to get your PvP stats up.

That's my over reaction drama for the morning done.

Turelus wrote: »

FatKidHatchets wrote: »

I don't plan on dealing with people. I am a war hero not a damn merchant.

See RP lol

But for real.... I hate grinding.

Then join a trade guild, buy PvP sets and sell them via the trade guild. Then use all the gold you make to buy gold tempers.

Also if you're part of a large campaign while you're in queue to join each night run around a silver VR zone which is empty and farm all the nodes. Then either refine the materials yourself for tempers or if you lack the SP for it ask a trusted friend/guild member to do so.

Should get some Hirelings, mate. 3, 6 or 9 Skyshards and they have a chance to give them

I wish there was just a more consistent way of getting gold mats that didn't cost an arm and leg in the process. I do my crafting writs every day and get maybe 4-5 gold mats between all my characters but that's hardly enough to sate my needs.

Not to mention all the changes to traits/gear that makes them less desirable overall after using materials to make them the best (I'M LOOKING AT YOU NIRNHONED!!!!! 4 Magic characters all with Gold Nirn Swords/Staffs, wasted as of DB).

It's just a real pain sometimes.

And before anyone says this is an MMO and that's just how they are, there are several different methods to gear grinds that don't require screwing people every single patch/dlc, like a token system.

FatKidHatchets wrote: »

People who cheated to get mats would benefit them.

AP grows on tree's. When defending a castle dump oil. You earn 20-50k ap . 3 buckets, 3 dumps. Hell I have earned my AP which, given the titles, means its how the faction values you as a member of society. So If someone has millions they have earned the respect of their faction through hard work.

Rightfully so, their whims should be catered too.

See sounds like RP

This is the first time I've agreed with you.

+1 agree, Fat Kid

Turelus wrote: »

FatKidHatchets wrote: »

Yes, we went through how you can grind *** up.

We also went through how I don't wanna anymore. I have had 8 heavy sets gold, I am tired of grinding. Ffs, you people have barely scratched the surface of the game.

Oh? Then oh wise master of completion of every bit of content possible please explain to me what I have left to do under the surface I am barely scratching.

We have given you plenty of ways you can get tempers even some using AP conversions which will be boosted come DB with the old sets being set to CR160.
However it seems clear you're not interested in anything other than how your own idea is the best one because the others require effort you're not willing to put into the game any more. In which case there is really no point in any of us posting here any more.

I wasn't in here asking for tempers. I was talking about widening the uses of AP with merchants delling it.

I can go get 100 rempers in a few hours of grinding. I just don't want to and would like to see other options. And thusly I suggested one. Sorry you can't keep up.

FatKidHatchets wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

FatKidHatchets wrote: »

Yes, we went through how you can grind *** up.

We also went through how I don't wanna anymore. I have had 8 heavy sets gold, I am tired of grinding. Ffs, you people have barely scratched the surface of the game.

Oh? Then oh wise master of completion of every bit of content possible please explain to me what I have left to do under the surface I am barely scratching.

We have given you plenty of ways you can get tempers even some using AP conversions which will be boosted come DB with the old sets being set to CR160.
However it seems clear you're not interested in anything other than how your own idea is the best one because the others require effort you're not willing to put into the game any more. In which case there is really no point in any of us posting here any more.

I wasn't in here asking for tempers. I was talking about widening the uses of AP with merchants delling it.

I can go get 100 rempers in a few hours of grinding. I just don't want to and would like to see other options. And thusly I suggested one. Sorry you can't keep up.

You seemed to get quite defensive and tell everyone how you're better than them at everything when people didn't like your idea though. I mean what I can take from this thread is, you're too lazy to grind any more, you're better than everyone else.

Glad I am falling behind, it seems more relaxed back here.

TBH AP should be used for Cyrodiil only items and not items which can be gained elsewhere in the game and are unbound.
This way we keep the trade dynamic between PvP and PvE players open and let both sides trade gold/AP for items they desire.

They can add more stuff into the game for it to be used on, however with the scaled old sets it seems we have an AP dump for players at last. Otherwise Wheeler hinted in an interview about new siege engines and the capturable towns mechanics, these might bring new uses for AP with them.

FatKidHatchets wrote: »

Sunburnt_Penguin wrote: »

FatKidHatchets wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

FatKidHatchets wrote: »

Yes, we went through how you can grind *** up.

We also went through how I don't wanna anymore. I have had 8 heavy sets gold, I am tired of grinding. Ffs, you people have barely scratched the surface of the game.

Oh? Then oh wise master of completion of every bit of content possible please explain to me what I have left to do under the surface I am barely scratching.

We have given you plenty of ways you can get tempers even some using AP conversions which will be boosted come DB with the old sets being set to CR160.
However it seems clear you're not interested in anything other than how your own idea is the best one because the others require effort you're not willing to put into the game any more. In which case there is really no point in any of us posting here any more.

I wasn't in here asking for tempers. I was talking about widening the uses of AP with merchants delling it.

I can go get 100 rempers in a few hours of grinding. I just don't want to and would like to see other options. And thusly I suggested one. Sorry you can't keep up.

How? Help me I'm poor.

Hew's bane you can get 60 ore every 2-3 minutes.

I've tried there but it wasn't as fruitful as that. Maybe I was just in the wrong area though.