Do you think the cost increase poisons are too powerful?

Tdroid · May 2016

The stronger cost increase poisons will increase the stamina or magicka cost by 60%. Do you think this is too powerful?

Wollust · May 2016

Yes

Definitely. 60% is beyond ridiculous.

Mettaricana · May 2016

Yes

Total bs

Farorin · May 2016

Does the effect stack? If not, then no, if yes, then yes.

Sugaroverdose · May 2016

Yes

Magicka builds with such poisons will be forced to run staffs dropping 2 piece sets, just because they will not have any sustain, that's just stupid.

dsalter · May 2016

Yes

30% was to much truth be told. would be somewhat happy with 15% tho. it has an impact but by no means does it equal = cost reduction poison means massive chance of death

americansteel · May 2016

this update will have me on other games.

Nifty2g · May 2016

No

gonna say no because resource builds are an issue, its good for this type of thing so you cant just have no issue with your resources.

its gonna be interesting.

but 60% might be a bit much, I'd settle for 40

Mumyo · May 2016

Nifty2g wrote: »

gonna say no because resource builds are an issue, its good for this type of thing so you cant just have no issue with your resources.

its gonna be interesting.

but 60% might be a bit much, I'd settle for 40

Agreed but if Templars can purge this...

Sugaroverdose · May 2016

Yes

Mumyo wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

gonna say no because resource builds are an issue, its good for this type of thing so you cant just have no issue with your resources.

its gonna be interesting.

but 60% might be a bit much, I'd settle for 40

Agreed but if Templars can purge this...

Don't think that this guy ever played in groups less than 6 or solo.

DDuke · May 2016

No

I think many are overlooking how short duration the poison lasts, it's like only 2 seconds (with a 10s cooldown & 20% proc chance).

It's not as bad as people make it out to be.

Sugaroverdose · May 2016

Yes

DDuke wrote: »

I think many are overlooking how short duration the poison lasts, it's like only 2 seconds (with a 10s cooldown & 20% proc chance).

It's not as bad as people make it out to be.

if there's no easy way to reduce it's proc time twice, than i agree.

DDuke · May 2016

No

Oh wait nevermind... there's one with 10 second duration too

Still, I dont mind it - anything that helps get rid of the "infinite resources" meta is a good thing imo

EsoRecon · May 2016

Yes

Needs a change or make the wep enchants give like 700 wep /spell damage xD

artal · May 2016

Yes

i know people hate infinite resources issue but this is just *** solution. 1vx say goodbye and goodnight
I can see group of couple people with different poisons stacking them on one person and that one will have 0% chance to fight back. 1 root you, 1 increase stam cost, 1 increase mag cost, reduce your dmg.... yea so balanced and fun feature

mr_wazzabi · May 2016

Yes

This is gonna turn into elder light and heavy attack online

Sugaroverdose · May 2016

Yes

DDuke wrote: »

Oh wait nevermind... there's one with 10 second duration too

Still, I dont mind it - anything that helps get rid of the "infinite resources" meta is a good thing imo

Yeah, just make stamina ravaging and magicka builds will spent 70% of their stamina pool on one break free and wouldn't do it until poison active. Balance.

Zheg · May 2016

Yes

dsalter wrote: »

30% was to much truth be told. would be somewhat happy with 15% tho. it has an impact but by no means does it equal = cost reduction poison means massive chance of death

Yep. When I first saw the poisons at 30%, I was like good golly those will make small scale fighting difficult. Then they bumped it up to 60%...

Looks like I'll be devoting 20 minutes of flower farming before every night of pvp...

Nifty2g · May 2016

No

Mumyo wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

gonna say no because resource builds are an issue, its good for this type of thing so you cant just have no issue with your resources.

its gonna be interesting.

but 60% might be a bit much, I'd settle for 40

Agreed but if Templars can purge this...

If Templars can purge it, means everyone can, no?
Whats your point?

bloodenragedb14_ESO · May 2016

Yes

i simply think poisons should not be allowed in cyrodiil, but then im not a pvp'er......whether that makes my opinion more or less valid is up to you.

all i can say is that, with poisons coming, my already scarce reasons for going into cyrodiil have now be reduced to none, im not dealing with that on top of the ganker problem

Rune_Relic · May 2016

Honestly depends how easily counterable they are for me.

It could be an opportunity to have positive/negative counters that increase build diversity 100 fold.
ie have buffs negate debuffs on a 1:1.
What debuff counters (buffs) are most important for your builds effectiveness ?
What debuff are most important for your builds effectiveness ?
What buff are most important for your builds effectiveness ?
What will you sacrifice and suffer in order to give your build the best possible chance of survival ?
What will you be weak to ?
What will be your strengths ?

It introduces 1000s of options and combinations especially if they are drastically limited and force sacrifice
The more options people sacrifice....the greater the variety of builds.

DDuke · May 2016

No

Sugaroverdose wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Oh wait nevermind... there's one with 10 second duration too

Still, I dont mind it - anything that helps get rid of the "infinite resources" meta is a good thing imo

Yeah, just make stamina ravaging and magicka builds will spent 70% of their stamina pool on one break free and wouldn't do it until poison active. Balance.

Actually, it only increases skill costs (not block, dodge or break free) - tested on PTS.

I'd be much more worried about the magicka cost increasing poisons than stamina ones

artal · May 2016

Yes

DDuke wrote: »

Sugaroverdose wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Oh wait nevermind... there's one with 10 second duration too

Still, I dont mind it - anything that helps get rid of the "infinite resources" meta is a good thing imo

Yeah, just make stamina ravaging and magicka builds will spent 70% of their stamina pool on one break free and wouldn't do it until poison active. Balance.

Actually, it only increases skill costs (not block, dodge or break free) - tested on PTS.

I'd be much more worried about the magicka cost increasing poisons than stamina ones

what about perma root poison

DDuke · May 2016

No

artal wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Sugaroverdose wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Oh wait nevermind... there's one with 10 second duration too

Still, I dont mind it - anything that helps get rid of the "infinite resources" meta is a good thing imo

Yeah, just make stamina ravaging and magicka builds will spent 70% of their stamina pool on one break free and wouldn't do it until poison active. Balance.

Actually, it only increases skill costs (not block, dodge or break free) - tested on PTS.

I'd be much more worried about the magicka cost increasing poisons than stamina ones

what about perma root poison

Poisons have a 10 second cooldown (20% chance of proccing from weapon attacks) & the worst you can get is a 5.8 second root:

mr_wazzabi · May 2016

Yes

@Wrobel @ZOS_GinaBruno

Can we please get a dev response regarding these ridiculously op poisons?
Why were they made even more powerful?

Lynx7386 · May 2016

They're fine, maybe people will actually have to pay attention to their resources now.

Anhedonie · May 2016

No

This is a good way to counter permadodgerollers and high sustain builds.

Rex-Umbra · May 2016

Yes

60 sounds crazy op to me. My playstyle is completely fricked as a Magicka melee weapon user, if i run out of Magicka my heavy attacks hit like a noodle and give me no resources back.

mr_wazzabi · May 2016

Yes

Anhedonie wrote: »

This is a good way to counter permadodgerollers and high sustain builds.

And those of us that run balanced damage/sustain builds will suffer even more.

If anything, high sustain builds will be the only ones that can somewhat deal with this bs

Sugaroverdose · May 2016

Yes

DDuke wrote: »

Sugaroverdose wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Oh wait nevermind... there's one with 10 second duration too

Still, I dont mind it - anything that helps get rid of the "infinite resources" meta is a good thing imo

Yeah, just make stamina ravaging and magicka builds will spent 70% of their stamina pool on one break free and wouldn't do it until poison active. Balance.

Actually, it only increases skill costs (not block, dodge or break free) - tested on PTS.

I'd be much more worried about the magicka cost increasing poisons than stamina ones

That's a good news, hope isn't bug.

Don't really think that mele magplar will suffer a lot from ravage magicka sweeps are 1.3 seconds even 6 casts+60% will not eat magicka pool, HoT will return 60% of it's cost, you just need to watch your magicka pool a little more careful

Ashamray · May 2016

I doubt that they are OP (they are even weak, If you are a magicka templar with no destro\resto staff and weapon-based dps abilities), but they will bring new issues to pvp. That's bad.

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