Currently... Which is the weakest class?

olsborg · May 2016

Dragonknight

IMO its a tie between magicka dk and stamsorc, those 2 classbuilds need some buffs.

EsoRecon · May 2016

Sorcerer

olsborg wrote: »

IMO its a tie between magicka dk and stamsorc, those 2 classbuilds need some buffs.

Ya but mag dk is at least good at something, dueling. Stamina sorcerer isn't good at anything.

Brrrofski · May 2016

Sorcerer

Stam sorc is behind magica Dk. Everything else is then miles ahead.

bloodenragedb14_ESO · May 2016

Sorcerer

JD2013 wrote: »

EsoRecon wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

EsoRecon wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

So, they nerf hardened ward, and suddenly Sorcerer is rubbish?

If you need to spam one shield to do things, clearly you are playing the class wrong. There are a multitude of survivability techniques.

YO HELLO, the people that chose sorcerer OBVIOUSLY mean stamina sorcerer. F***, I can only handle so much!

HELLO TOO!

Chill, dude.

No, to be able to deal with the people in this game? NO CHILL gotta get this s*** through their thick skulls.

Actually, I have found that a lot of the community is pretty relaxed. Save for a good chunk of the PVP community.

i have also seen that, from my observations:

a good chunk of the PVE community is rather calm, though there are exceptions

a good chunk of the PVP community are just plain toxic, but again, there are a few exceptions

i have yet to see a member of the RP'er community get riled up about anything, they seem to be the most chill

Jar_Ek · May 2016

Sorcerer

Stamina sorcerer in all situations atm.

Flaminir · May 2016

Sorcerer

JD2013 wrote: »

So, they nerf hardened ward, and suddenly Sorcerer is rubbish?

If you need to spam one shield to do things, clearly you are playing the class wrong. There are a multitude of survivability techniques.

Actually not really anything to do with that.... shields in PvP is just one small piece of the jigsaw... the OP's question was too general.

Though taking the class defining defensive skill & giving it to every class in this patch does have an impact yes.

Sorc's are still v good in PvP in the right hands, & I agree totally that if you can't play without an extra 14seconds on shield duration then you need to look at how you're playing them... Though they also nerfed surge to hell... which is another survivability technique gone. (In PvE especially)

But comparatively.... Everybody just got a version of hardened ward... but I didn't see Sorc's getting a version of a NB's cloak? or a DK's mitigation/flappities?... or a Templars heals?

Without more clarity on what part of the game we are judging 'Who's the weakest' on then it's either an overall high level view or none at all.

waterfairy · May 2016

bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »

The only thing mag sorc has going for it is a buggy overload, and shield stacking at current, after DB all its got is buggy ult

Stam sorc is just terrible period, though i dont think thats out of the ordinary for a class that is centered on magicka

I hate when I'm trying to use that and it randomly stops working at the most crucial moment. Zap, zap, zap............why you no zap?!!

WldKarde · May 2016

Whatever class I happen to be playing at the moment.

I will however say that it is in no way any of my character's fault that they are being driven by a knucklehead.

Seriously though, as others have said it depends on the situation (and player) as to what makes a particular class strong or weak. As long as I continue to have fun, I'll continue to play them all and try to learn how to get the most out of each of my characters.

Valrien · May 2016

Sorcerer

JD2013 wrote: »

So, they nerf hardened ward, and suddenly Sorcerer is rubbish?

If you need to spam one shield to do things, clearly you are playing the class wrong. There are a multitude of survivability techniques.

Actually they've had the worst sustained DPS in PvE for a long while. It never really mattered, though, because Overload got us through almost every fight we really needed DPS in. Now that places like Maw of Lorkhaj (and soon Sanctum) exist, the gap is more clear between Sorcerer and the other classes. A solid raid group usually only allows 1 (maybe 2) Sorcerers for a 3% boost in Spell Critical to the group. Since they have the lowest DPS they're usually the best option to send to the back room in MoL during the final fight. Hell, you can even out-DPS Overload now in content where it "should" be the best.

Van_0S · May 2016

Templar

Stan sorc and templars!
Though the upcoming patch will make all class balanced!

Zorgon_The_Revenged · May 2016

Azor_Ahaii wrote: »

Zorgon_The_Revenged wrote: »

In PvE or PvP?

PvZ

Ah, you are one of those Player versus Zenimax players....

Septimus_Magna · May 2016

For pve it depends on the role but in trails I would consider sorcs the weakest class.

For pvp it depends on the setting of the fight. Some classes are better in groups and some are better suited for solo play.

Mag DK can be really strong in duels but will be weaker for solo play due to the lack of mobility.

Mag sorcs are strong in small scale fights but dont offer much in groups.

In pvp each class has its strenghts and weaknesses.

CasNation · May 2016

Sorcerer

Others have already eloquently described the current situation with Sorc. I won't bother repeating what has already been said.

Rohamad_Ali · May 2016

Argonian Merchants . They just can't generate excitement .

SneaK · May 2016

Whichever class the OP plays. Terrible poll.

Korah_Eaglecry · May 2016

Sorcerer

Let me clarify here. Magicka Sorcerers are not even remotely close to being the weakest. My vote is specifically in relation to the poor state that Stamina Sorcerers are in.

Tavore1138 · May 2016

Nightblade

I voted NB but I mean stamblade.

I'll grant the good burst for ganking in PvP and argue that it is the only class that is forced to be defined by such a small role because of such epic QQ. Also that good burst is largely boosted by non-class skills.

But that aside of the 4 classes I have played it is the one where I feel weakest in open battle, weakest in PvE DPS and weakest in 1vgroup PvE content. Unless you are one of the top NBs try getting a group to run vet Maw with your stamblade or WGT/IP or try vMSA...

It's also the one I enjoy playing most.

Stamblade was a lot stronger a couple of major patches ago but with all the stamina nerfs and hits on sustain and regen it has become the poor relation unless you simply want to gank... which I don't.

I am holding out hope it will get some love in DB but with all the people who are complaining a physical ulti can do nearly as much damage as something magic users can spam for hours while holding block and ZOS apparently taking them seriously I am starting to think I am going to have to play stamblade for fun but something else if I want people to group with me.

Magiblade on the other hand is crazy strong right now.

Asherons_Call · May 2016

None, they are all currently balanced

The magica sorctempbladeknight

Rylana · May 2016

None, they are all currently balanced

This is not a troll response, I actually mean it.

s7732425ub17_ESO · May 2016

None, they are all currently balanced

Every class is balanced. Each class has a unique playing style, and they bring different offerings to the table.

Dracan_Fontom · May 2016

None, they are all currently balanced

If played right all classes and playstyle are strong. Even a stam sorc.

CaptainBeerDude · May 2016

Asherons_Call wrote: »

The magica sorctempbladeknight

Temperer Dragonblade?

RedFireDisco · May 2016

Dragonknight

Dk is by far a gimp class, just look at the passives.

Templar has extra weapon damage, op ultimate regen, mag, stam & ult cost reductions + Heals galore.

Sorc has massive ult reduction, stam & mag reduction - Mag regen, spell power

Nightblades have extra crit & crit damage, weapon damage from stealth, all regens, extra health and mag

DK's get 10% more block woohooo. Some spell resist and some return on ult activation.

You also get some stam when you activate the worlds worst damage shield (obshield).

It's bad and some poison aint gonna fix it.

I've shelved my DK's and not even stam dawnbreaker would be enough to lure me back.

Stamblade however....

Azor_Ahaii · May 2016

Nightblade

EsoRecon wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

So, they nerf hardened ward, and suddenly Sorcerer is rubbish?

If you need to spam one shield to do things, clearly you are playing the class wrong. There are a multitude of survivability techniques.

YO HELLO, the people that chose sorcerer OBVIOUSLY mean stamina sorcerer. F***, I can only handle so much!

wtf is a stam sorceror?
I thought they were just a myth...

ADarklore · May 2016

Sorcerer

bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »

The only thing mag sorc has going for it is a buggy overload, and shield stacking at current, after DB all its got is buggy ult

Stam sorc is just terrible period, though i dont think thats out of the ordinary for a class that is centered on magicka

So why don't you use Overload as a Stamina Sorc? It doesn't scale off Magicka and is just as useful if you use pets and utilities on Overload bar instead of weapons. It has occasional bugs, sure... but once you learn how to counter the bugs it is no longer a problem.

Mush55 · May 2016

Sorcerer

Sorc for various reasons already mentioned with magic being ahead of stamm which is bottom of the pile now and after the patch is released.....

Septimus_Magna · May 2016

RedFireDisco wrote: »

Dk is by far a gimp class, just look at the passives.

Templar has extra weapon damage, op ultimate regen, mag, stam & ult cost reductions + Heals galore.

Sorc has massive ult reduction, stam & mag reduction - Mag regen, spell power

Nightblades have extra crit & crit damage, weapon damage from stealth, all regens, extra health and mag

DK's get 10% more block woohooo. Some spell resist and some return on ult activation.

You also get some stam when you activate the worlds worst damage shield (obshield).

It's bad and some poison aint gonna fix it.

I've shelved my DK's and not even stam dawnbreaker would be enough to lure me back.

Stamblade however....

Lol, stam DK pulls highest pve dps, has great skills for tanking and is very competative in pvp.

Magicka DK pulls highest pve dps of the magicka builds.

lathbury · May 2016

Sorcerer

for endgame pve stam sorc or stam blade for pvp stam sorc

khele23eb17_ESO · May 2016

Nightblade

The poll is a bit lacking. There should separate choices for stam and mag builds.

Ajaxduo · May 2016

Sorcerer

Stam Sorc is almost there, great for AoE dps now but lacks slightly in the single target. Magicka Sorc is a bit too reliant on overload which is ridden with bugs, meh.